*need help* out of fuel!!!

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davekc

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Ok...good to know. Not sure what they would say with a fleet of trucks. If there is a limit, maybe throw on the oldest first and see what happens. New ones have towing already but not for flats.
 

Deville

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Can someone sum up this thread for me, 7 pages is way too much to read though. What was the out come?
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
Deville,put more posts per page.
I'm only on page 3 here.
The OP vanished. No outcome.

Get some popcorn. It's a thread about nothing that has some weird twists and turns
 

Turtle

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Although they don't advertise for commercial use I have never had an issue with them. Again not using it on TT. They have never questioned the use or anything else. Great service.
It's not AAA, they won't do a thing. The Platinum is the best. They are equipped to handle large RV's. When I call they ask location, size tire and your membership number and that's it.
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Wolverine

Seasoned Expediter
Another 7 pages of (for the most part) useless jibber. 7 Pages!

You may not realize what they go through on a daily basis, but I'm sure cargo van drivers feel fortunate EO is here, regardless of the"jibber".

They probably find EO a harmless way of passing time during those long days and nights of waiting for that next .70/mile load.
 

Wolverine

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Can someone sum up this thread for me, 7 pages is way too much to read though. What was the out come?

I'd be happy to encapsulate it for you, Coupe de.

Essentially, the bulk of the posters seem to want any expediter to drop everything and rush to the aid of their competitor(s) when prompted by cries for help after the cryer has done something foolish resulting in sitting by the side of the road while loaded.

Of course, I'm sure most of these "humanitarians" are vanners and need a great deal of help - living at the bottom of the expediting food chain, as it is, and needing all the help they can get.

That pretty well sums it up.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
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Another 7 pages of (for the most part) useless jibber. 7 Pages!



So here's some useful jibber: pick up a copy of "The Next Exit" [$15 at truckstop or bookstore], it's well worth it. A list of everything [food, motels, fuel, & 'other' [stores, mostly] at every exit on every interstate in the lower 48. Includes rest areas [by mile marker] and weigh stations, with RV [also truck] friendly places in red for quick reference.
Mine is tattered, but I hate replacing it, cause I add notes in the margins [like a great laundromat], and I use it every day, cause I can't ever remember anything, lol.
 

mjmsprt40

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I'd be happy to encapsulate it for you, Coupe de.

Essentially, the bulk of the posters seem to want any expediter to drop everything and rush to the aid of their competitor(s) when prompted by cries for help after the cryer has done something foolish resulting in sitting by the side of the road while loaded.

Of course, I'm sure most of these "humanitarians" are vanners and need a great deal of help - living at the bottom of the expediting food chain, as it is, and needing all the help they can get.

That pretty well sums it up.

You've obviously never been a "newbie" and have obviously never made a stupid mistake that cost you. Congratulations!!!!

Now, get ready, it's gonna happen. Karma can be a bear robbed of her cubs when she's crossed.

FWIW: In all probability, nobody was in a position to help the OP at the time. Her plea for help was a shot in the dark, just in case anybody was nearby and could/would help. The odds of that happening in that location were between slim and none but it had to be tried. The best the rest of us can do now is give the kind of information that will keep that from happening again.

I'm not even sure-- until I look things up-- if enough gas can be carried in portable containers to do any good in that location. Some parts of the country become terrible "fuel deserts" at night, I can easily imagine having to travel a hundred miles to find the next station that's open when it's 2:00 in the morning. You're not getting there on a couple of gallons of emergency gas in any vehicle that can do this job. I'm going to second Cheri's advice for just that reason. Get "The Next Exit" and use it for trip planning. Fill up before you think you need to, in some areas getting down to half a tank can get scary at night so don't be afraid to fill up "early".
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
I'm not even sure-- until I look things up-- if enough gas can be carried in portable containers to do any good in that location.
One gallon would have done it. Bismark, AR is about 10 miles off I-30 at the Caddo Valley exit (78), where there are at least 4 gas stations that are 24/7.
 

mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
One gallon would have done it. Bismark, AR is about 10 miles off I-30 at the Caddo Valley exit (78), where there are at least 4 gas stations that are 24/7.

In that case, I'd be inclined to go two gallons. Personally, I don't like pushing things that close. Even though my van gets about 14 mpg average, I've seen it get less than that so one gallon might be cutting it a bit too fine. More than two is asking for trouble the other way--- read that post about the guy that ran out of fuel twice in four hours, that only happens by not thinking. I wonder if the fuel gauge on that truck worked, given the dipstick story we heard earlier concerning another truck in that fleet. For the reason that the fuel gauge might not be reliable I pay attention to the odometer too. When it gets near 300 miles since the last fill-up, it's time for gas. 250 miles if I'm in or near a fuel desert.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
You may not look at it this way, Bucky, but everyone out there, including you AND Rapamam, is my competition. Everyone who makes such a foolish mistake and is stuck on the side of the road or in a shop only makes my life more profitable.

If someone is out of commission, for whatever reason, it makes my chances of getting another load (and sooner) that much better.

It's disheartening to see some in our industry are so close to financial failure that they are dependent on the misfortune of others for their own survival. I see where death has taken two E.O. members and expediters off the Big Board this past week. This should improve the odds of Wolvurine getting a load today or tomorrow.

"No man is an island, entire of himself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."
John Donne
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emlm
 
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LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Well some have made fun of 'good samaritan' advice and some have made fun of 'simple advice' and some I'm just not certain but it boils down to a win all the same. If you start looking for your next fuel stop after 3 hours and make your next fuel stop by 4 hours you're never going to have an out of fuel problem. You're also going to potentially have slightly better health with less danger of clotting. It's also easier on the fuel pump if the tank is kept a third or more full all the time since the fuel is the coolant for the pump.
 

Wolverine

Seasoned Expediter
You've obviously never been a "newbie" and have obviously never made a stupid mistake that cost you. Congratulations!!!!

Now, get ready, it's gonna happen. Karma can be a bear robbed of her cubs when she's crossed.

FWIW: In all probability, nobody was in a position to help the OP at the time. Her plea for help was a shot in the dark, just in case anybody was nearby and could/would help. The odds of that happening in that location were between slim and none but it had to be tried. The best the rest of us can do now is give the kind of information that will keep that from happening again.

I'm not even sure-- until I look things up-- if enough gas can be carried in portable containers to do any good in that location. Some parts of the country become terrible "fuel deserts" at night, I can easily imagine having to travel a hundred miles to find the next station that's open when it's 2:00 in the morning. You're not getting there on a couple of gallons of emergency gas in any vehicle that can do this job. I'm going to second Cheri's advice for just that reason. Get "The Next Exit" and use it for trip planning. Fill up before you think you need to, in some areas getting down to half a tank can get scary at night so don't be afraid to fill up "early".

Oh, I've made plenty of stupid mistakes, Fourty, especially early on and in the steepest part of the expedite learning curve. But I can't ever remember asking anyone to bail me out...I would have been too embarrassed.

Please tell me what FWIW means.

Are you serious about carrying gas in "portable containers"? This sounds like a sure recipe for disaster. What happens in the event of an accident serious enough to rupture one? Can you say "immolation"??
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
What is trolling?

Pleading ignorance will not help. There are plenty of examples of the definition of internet trolling to be found through a Google search, as well as in the EO Code of Conduct itself. I'm just giving you a little headsup warning. Do with it whatever you like.
 

Wolverine

Seasoned Expediter
It's disheartening to see some in our industry are so close to financial failure that they are dependent on the misfortune of others for their own survival. I see where death has taken two E.O. members and expediters off the Big Board this past week. This should improve the odds of Wolvurine getting a load today or tomorrow.

"No man is an island, entire of himself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."
John Donne
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emlm

Why should that be disheartening, Mr. Moot? If my business had gone belly-up yesterday, you might have gotten a nice reefer load today. That's referred to as 'opportunity', and I suspect you wouldn't have shed a lot of tears.
 
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