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witness23

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Now please tell me, just how in the heck can you determine that "MOST" of those who post in the SoapBox listen to Beck? There is just NO WAY you can determine that. You are only making an assumption and we ALL know what that means. LOL!! That was a good one there Witness!! You have a great case of the "funnies" today!! :p

Orinally posted by Witness23:
With that said, one of the biggest reasons I post things from Beck is that it seems most, not all, here in the Soapbox are fans and followers of Beck and share the same views as he does. I could be wrong about that, but I'll go with my instincts on this one and take my chances that my instincts are correct.

Take note of the bold, italicized writings in my post.
 

witness23

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Now please tell me, just how in the heck can you determine that "MOST" of those who post in the SoapBox listen to Beck?

Also, I've noted that I have not come to this conclusion solely based on Beck. It also includes such websites such as The Blaze, The Drudge Report, NewsBusters. Commentators such as O'reilly, Hannity, Beck. Radio shows such as Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh and Mark Levin.

I must add, I am very familiar with the above because I will actually tune into their shows and listen to what they say.

The difference between me and those that actually believe and repeat what these charlatans have to say is; I see it for what it is, entertainment.
 

Turtle

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Well, I guess I have to spell it out for Turtle and some others here in the Soapbox about my so called "Bromance" I have with Beck.
No need, really, since we can see it for ourselves.

But with your comment Turtle, I can do neither of those things, because the statement isn't correct by definition. Again, just your unsuccesful attempt at "piling on" for the sake of "piling on".
Looks like I'm living rent free in your head, too.

What did surprise me, is that you Turtle made the Man-Crush, Bromance comment in the first place. Anyone with a bit of commonsense would know that statement is neither accurate or funny.
I thought it was funny.

If you were trying to be funny, there would have to be some truth to the statement, otherwise it falls flat on its face. Otherwise known, as I like to say, "An Epic Fail" on your attempt at humor.
Some jokes work, some don't. That's the way it goes.

It's simple.......it is called integrity. Which in my opinion, Beck, O'reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity, Cable news(all of 'em), etc, etc, have none of.
Agreed

With that said, one of the biggest reasons I post things from Beck is that it seems most, not all, here in the Soapbox are fans and followers of Beck and share the same views as he does.
SO you are, in effect, preaching to the choir.

I could be wrong about that, but I'll go with my instincts on this one and take my chances that my instincts are correct.
Even if you are correct, so what?

Beck seems to be the one who is putting out the most mis-information out there.
Followed closely by those who repost his misinformation to Web forums.

So when I post things that Beck says, it for those that share his views. I for one do not think you share his views or more importantly his integrity, so I would not expect you to get it.
No, I get it. You read Beck's stuff and it drives you crazy, and you then use this forum to vent your frustration. My advice would be to quit watching, listening to and reading Beck's stuff.

I like to get all sides of a story, in doing so, I hear and read a lot of different opinions. When I hear outright lies, halve truths, accusastions, to further someones agenda or to make a buck off of ignorance, I like to point it out. Let me tell ya, it is pretty easy to do here in the Soapbox.
When I like to get all sides of a story, too. I don't watch Beck and the other very often, but I do on occasion, in order to get as many points of view as I can. But if I reposted stuff here every time I disagreed with it, Lawrence would have to buy a couple more servers just to hold it all. Rather than pointing out every time Beck twists the truth, it's better to assume that he does it all the time, and just stick with pointing out all the times he's truthful. If you restrict your posts about Beck in that manner, people won't think you've got a Beck bromance.
 

witness23

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No need, really, since we can see it for ourselves.

I shouldn't have written "we" in my opening statement. I should've wrote, "I will spell it out for Turtle and anyone else who may share his views in my so-called "bromance".

You might want to exclude your "we" and "ourselves", in your above statement, since you are the only that cannot comprehend what the word means or its intended use.

Looks like I'm living rent free in your head, too.

Not at all. Nice attempt at deflection though.

I thought it was funny.

Well, now that you know the correct definition of the word "Bromance" and the correct context in which it should be used, I hope I might have saved you the embarassment in the future when you are attempting to be funny by using the word "Bromance".

Some jokes work, some don't. That's the way it goes.

It is safe to say that joke didn't work.


I'm glad you agree with me.

SO you are, in effect, preaching to the choir.

NO, I am not preaching to the choir. We both know what that means and if you were being truthful and not trying to prove a point, where this isn't point to be proven, you would not even think about making that comment. Especially if I am backing it up with facts to counter Becks words. I did make the mistake of quoting Beck's words without showing the facts in this particular thread, in which I apologized for doing so.

Even if you are correct, so what?

When allegations, statements, shared values, shared views mirror Becks, then I am not only disputing what is being said I am also showing the credibility of those that agree with him or those that may employ the man. How can anyone honestly think that Beck or FoxNews(his employer) has any integrity at all.

Followed closely by those who repost his misinformation to Web forums.

C'mon Turtle. You really aren't that dense are you. My posts of Becks words always are followed up by facts disputing his misinformation.

No, I get it. You read Beck's stuff and it drives you crazy, and you then use this forum to vent your frustration. My advice would be to quit watching, listening to and reading Beck's stuff.

It does upset me that so many believe what Beck has to say. Not only do they believe it, they take it as the Gospel Truth. Once again, there are some here in the Soapbox that fit that description above(they know who they are). I am only including Becks words, as Sister Sarah would say, to refudiate his propaganda by using his own words against him.

But if I reposted stuff here every time I disagreed with it, Lawrence would have to buy a couple more servers just to hold it all.

It is not so much that I disagree, it is that I feel it becomes worthy to post things that are out right, bold face lies that Beck and others like him spout every single day. He gives a lot of material to dispute or prove wrong. If he was a nobody, it wouldn't matter andwe wouldn't be here talking about him. Face it Turtle, Beck and the others like him, that I have mentioned over and over have influence and their words mean something and when those words are lies they not only mean something they may have grave consequences.

Rather than pointing out every time Beck twists the truth, it's better to assume that he does it all the time, and just stick with pointing out all the times he's truthful.

If I didn't point out that he or others were twisting the truth or lying, others would be in here passing those twisted truths to the other members and possibly believing those twisted truths and lies. You and a few others that post in the Soapbox know or have the desire to look for the truth and do not believe everything you hear.

If you restrict your posts about Beck in that manner, people won't think you've got a Beck bromance.

Dude, seriously, give it up. Use a different adjective describing this phenomenon if you will, just make it relevant please.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Also, I've noted that I have not come to this conclusion solely based on Beck. It also includes such websites such as The Blaze, The Drudge Report, NewsBusters. Commentators such as O'reilly, Hannity, Beck. Radio shows such as Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh and Mark Levin.

I must add, I am very familiar with the above because I will actually tune into their shows and listen to what they say.

The difference between me and those that actually believe and repeat what these charlatans have to say is; I see it for what it is, entertainment.

Yeah, EVERY news cast is put forth by charlatans and done strictly for entertainment and ratings. Funny that, at least most of the time, you single out the so called "Right Wing" entertainers only.

You got me on the other thing. I do however very much doubt that those of us in the "SoapBox" arena are a monolithic in our views as you may think.
 

witness23

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Funny that, at least most of the time, you single out the so called "Right Wing" entertainers only.

Again, you have to remember I am only pointing out deliberate lies or halve truths or hypocritcal rhetoric. I guess you could deduce from that, that the ones I have mentioned are doing it most often and worth mentioning.

Feel free to do the same with the liberal media also. Like you said Layout, most media news outlets are all about profits. In order to bring in profits you have to entertain people at all costs to get them to tune in. What happens when you put profits above integrity? Well, you know the answer to that.

I'm not talking about "spin", I am talking about deliberate lies, or deliberately leaving out facts or adding facts to advance their agenda. There is a difference and you know that as well as I do.
 

layoutshooter

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Again, you have to remember I am only pointing out deliberate lies or halve truths or hypocritcal rhetoric. I guess you could deduce from that, that the ones I have mentioned are doing it most often and worth mentioning.

Feel free to do the same with the liberal media also. Like you said Layout, most media news outlets are all about profits. In order to bring in profits you have to entertain people at all costs to get them to tune in. What happens when you put profits above integrity? Well, you know the answer to that.

I'm not talking about "spin", I am talking about deliberate lies, or deliberately leaving out facts or adding facts to advance their agenda. There is a difference and you know that as well as I do.


I REALLY wish that just ONCE I could "get around" the rules of this site. I won't but it would be SO fun to tell you about what some recently wounded vets think of Katy Couric. Her way of "spinning" things and/or her creative "editing". (lies)

Their take on her was one of the FUNNIEST things I ever heard!! It involves a "new weight" standard. As in how much something weighs compared to her weight. In other words, IF she weighed 100lbs that equals one "Couric".

I can tell you that group of Purple Heart owners have NO use for her, ANY of the news networks, Obama, Biden or MOST in congress and for VERY good reason. They are being SCREWED by this government. We can only hope that the new members of the house can reverse what is going on. I doubt it, but we have to hope.
 

witness23

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I REALLY wish that just ONCE I could "get around" the rules of this site. I won't but it would be SO fun to tell you about what some recently wounded vets think of Katy Couric. Her way of "spinning" things and/or her creative "editing". (lies)

I mean c'mon man, can you elaborate?

Believe me, I agree with you when it comes to the news media. As Turtle would say, "You are preaching to the choir."

I'm sure you could still tell us what your wounded vets opinions were of Couric without breaking any rules. Paraphrase if you will. I don't watch her so I couldn't tell you if she was lying or not. If we had an example of one of these lie's then I suppose we could discuss it.

Their take on her was one of the FUNNIEST things I ever heard!! It involves a "new weight" standard. As in how much something weighs compared to her weight. In other words, IF she weighed 100lbs that equals one "Couric".

I guess you had to be there. I really don't get it? Does she brag about how much she weighs or something? Again, care to elaborate?

I can tell you that group of Purple Heart owners have NO use for her, ANY of the news networks, Obama, Biden or MOST in congress and for VERY good reason. They are being SCREWED by this government. We can only hope that the new members of the house can reverse what is going on. I doubt it, but we have to hope.

Care to elaborate? Where are they being screwed? Why is Congress screwing them? I mean I could look into what is going on but it would be easier if I knew specifically what the complaints were. Again, do you have any specifics, can you elaborate more on their complaints?
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Let's see, they think of her as a pile of "stuff". SO, when they see or are handed a "pile of stuff" they compare how much that pile weighs in "Courics" Get the idea? It was funny around that campfire. It got "worse" (funnier) but I cannot figure away around it. You should have been there.

They are now going to be TAXED on their Leg and arm replacements. (part of the hidden Obama care taxes) One, due to improper care by a person NOT qualified to fit limbs contracted a live threatening bacterial infection and spent 9 months at Walter Reed trying to live through it. That same guy has been waiting 18 MONTHS for an appointment with the Army med board to get his medical discharge. He STILL has NOT had it. They cannot get proper metal care, not enough doctors and funds for that program have been cut.

And on and on it goes. All three of those guys told the same tale. All three are FULL of holes and the one is missing his right leg below the knee.
 

greg334

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But Layout, Couric has nothing to really do with real life. She is for the most part another Dan Rather/Cronkite who really didn't need to tell us what to think.
 
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