Wife beating ok in New Jersey

[LDB]

Sharia law says you can beat your wife. New Jersey judge says it's ok here in the U.S. as well. Yes, he was overturned but that tells you something about where we are and the unfit liberal idiots in positions of power.

GOPUSA » The Loft » Go Ahead, Beat Your Wife... Just Don't Leave a Mark

 

[TonyG]

What has happened with the "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" philosophy?

Other Countries would expect us to abide by their laws!

In England a few years back, a town council decided not to put up a christmas tree at the town hall, and the normal street decorations because it would upset other faiths.
The world needs a reality check.


Regards

Sue

 

[greg334]

Well seeing that this happened in 2008,

• the case was not about Sharia law or how wife beating or any thing is permissible as it was stated and misleading in the article,
• the judge inappropriately dismissed the needs of the victim and went against the statutes of NJ,
• it has been brought to the Appellate Court in NJ and the requested restraining order was issued

BUT it doesn't seem to mean much to the articles author or those who seem to try to justify hate by reading this author's work who really did an injustice himself by writing this sh*t.

The most important thing to me is a referenced article about Sharia law coming to America that has this in it;

The Dearborn claim may have been grounded in the arrest of four Christian evangelists for disorderly conduct at an Arab cultural festival in June, which some conservatives took as evidence that Sharia law had come to Michigan. (** note that the case was thrown out **)



The notion that Sharia law is coming to America has been percolating in the conservative media for a while. Fox News' Sean Hannity suggested the arrest of the Christian missionaries in Dearborn reflected the possibility that "Sharia law is taking over in Dearborn" as did Fox News' Brian Kilmeade, who interviewed one of the men who was arrested.

Please note the highlighted idiotic comment made by a professional entertainer and later by a "journalist".

I digress ...

The truth is not there to be found in the original article from GOPUSA (catchy URL).

Pulling the two related cases in the database and reading it, the author must have done the same research as I did and come up with a lot of facts that were actually left out of the article he wrote like ... the Imam's comments ...

The Imam confirmed that a wife must comply with her husband's sexual demands, because the husband is prohibited from obtaining sexual satisfaction elsewhere. However, a husband was forbidden to approach his wife "like any animal." The Imam did not definitively answer whether, under Islamic law, a husband must stop his advances if his wife said "no." However, he acknowledged that New Jersey law considered coerced sex between married people to be rape.

The part in the middle of the two bold sentences is as important as a dog with flees. I mean that yes the husband has to respect his wife but the question is answered by the acknowledgement that NJ law and coerced sex is rape. If the Imam says the law is the law, it is the law.

However the case wasn't all about the sex or the beatings but about a divorce, other issues with a reconciliation and a lot of things that seem to me are between two people who we don't know.

Overall the actual truth is this;

• Wife beating is not ok, even if you don't leave a mark (the author is an a** for making the mark comment).
• NJ law states clearly that criminal sexual abuse is just that, and the appellate court did indeed say that.
• That this has zero to do with Islamic law, Sharia law or any Muslim issues but has to do with domestic violence and a bad judge.

 

[Turtle]

BUT it doesn't seem to mean much to the articles author or those who seem to try to justify hate by reading this author's work who really did an injustice himself by writing this sh*t.

The title of this thread, which is a blatant lie, is clear evidence of that.

 

[greg334]

Yea I know but I'm bored so I get to trash another idiot author.

 

[witness23]

Quote:

The Dearborn claim may have been grounded in the arrest of four Christian evangelists for disorderly conduct at an Arab cultural festival in June, which some conservatives took as evidence that Sharia law had come to Michigan. (** note that the case was thrown out **)

The notion that Sharia law is coming to America has been percolating in the conservative media for a while. Fox News' Sean Hannity suggested the arrest of the Christian missionaries in Dearborn reflected the possibility that "Sharia law is taking over in Dearborn" as did Fox News' Brian Kilmeade, who interviewed one of the men who was arrested.

The above story is what has started the whole "Sharia Law" coming to America thing? Seriously? I keep hearing Hannity, O'reilly, Fox and Friends and Beck say this but I didn't know this is what started it all. Wow!

 

[Moot]

Yea I know but I'm bored so I get to trash another idiot author.

Have you stopped beating your wife?

 

[greg334]

Have you stopped beating your wife?

Moot, my good chinchilla, I don't beat my wife nor do I condone it. What my point is simply that news is skewed to fit the agenda of those who feel there is a threat and like minded people take the news as fact without fact being present.

Witness, Hannity, O'reilly, Fox and Friends and Beck for that matter have yet to step into Dearborn, Dearborn Hgts, Hamtramck or Detroit to actually see for themselves where Sharia has established itself.

 

[witness23]

Witness, Hannity, O'reilly, Fox and Friends and Beck for that matter have yet to step into Dearborn, Dearborn Hgts, Hamtramck or Detroit to actually see for themselves where Sharia has established itself.

So you are saying Sharia has established itself in those areas?

 

[greg334]

Nope, my point is clear, with the idiocy and lunicy of these people who seem to think it has, maybe they need to get off their a**es and go see it for themselves. It is not what they make it out to be.

The fact is Sharia and Islamic law is exactly the same as Jewish and Catholic law, a set of laws based on their respected religions on how to live. Many don't even know that Catholics have about the same thing in their religion.

 

[witness23]

Nope, my point is clear, with the idiocy and lunicy of these people who seem to think it has, maybe they need to get off their a**es and go see it for themselves. It is not what they make it out to be.

The fact is Sharia and Islamic law is exactly the same as Jewish and Catholic law, a set of laws based on their respected religions on how to live. Many don't even know that Catholics have about the same thing in their religion.

Okay, that's what I thought. I really am dumbfounded that this "Sharia Law" thing started with that video of the festival. Unbelievable.

 

[RLENT]

So you are saying Sharia has established itself in those areas?

I stopped in Dearborn awhile back ..... up there around Michigan & Oakman ..... at a Starbucks to grab some joe ....

Didn't see no Sharia .... sure saw alot of lattes though ....

Funny thing .... I was pretty much the only lilly-white guy in the place (and it was packed) ..... and everyone in there seemed pretty darn friendly:

No one shouting "Death to the infidels !" ...... no bombs being made .... and (unbelievably, to hear some tell it) no one was beating their wife .... and when I left, I didn't feel any strange, foreign compunctions to go home and beat mine ....

Dunno .... might have something to do with what one puts out, one then gets back ....

And given that, it's quite easy to see why some are ..... disturbed .......

 

[layoutshooter]

I stopped in Dearborn awhile back ..... up there around Michigan & Oakman ..... at a Starbucks to grab some joe ....

Didn't see no Sharia .... sure saw alot of lattes though ....

Funny thing .... I was pretty much the only lilly-white guy in the place (and it was packed) ..... and everyone in there seemed pretty darn friendly:

No one shouting "Death to the infidels !" ...... no bombs being made .... and (unbelievably, to hear some tell it) no one was beating their wife .... and when I left, I didn't feel any strange, foreign compunctions to go home and beat mine ....

Dunno .... might have something to do with what one puts out, one then gets back ....

And given that, it quite easy to see why some are ..... disturbed .......

They only do that on Saturday nights, just after they take their weekly bath. Of course you had no problems there. I would not expect you too have any as I am sure you did not expect any. MOST people just wish to live their lives in peace, some even like a little quiet too.

 

[witness23]

I stopped in Dearborn awhile back ..... up there around Michigan & Oakman ..... at a Starbucks to grab some joe ....

Didn't see no Sharia .... sure saw alot of lattes though ....

Funny thing .... I was pretty much the only lilly-white guy in the place (and it was packed) ..... and everyone in there seemed pretty darn friendly:

No one shouting "Death to the infidels !" ...... no bombs being made .... and (unbelievably, to hear some tell it) no one was beating their wife .... and when I left, I didn't feel any strange, foreign compunctions to go home and beat mine ....

Dunno .... might have something to do with what one puts out, one then gets back ....

And given that, it quite easy to see why some are ..... disturbed .......

I hope you didn't think I believed that Sharia was being practiced in those areas? I am still laughing at the thought that the pundits along with others, think that Sharia is being practiced because of the video from the festival a couple years back.

 

[RLENT]

I hope you didn't think I believed that Sharia was being practiced in those areas?

Nah .....

Now LDB on the otherhand .....

I am still laughing at the thought that the pundits along with others, think that Sharia is being practiced because of the video from the festival a couple years back.

Yeah ..... that was one where we had the resident (faux libertarian) goober(s) on here ready to blow a gasket .... and if I recall correctly, suggesting that "certain types" of folks needed to be expelled from the country ..... apparently jus' cause they didn't care for something about them (race, religion, whatever, etc.) ... and apparently irrespective of their status as United States citizens .....

Truly a D. W. Griffith moment, if ever there was one ....

 

[Turtle]

The biggest part of the problems is that Christians, Evangelicals in particular, think the First Amendment guarantees an audience, where they can proselytize to whomever they want and whenever they want, and those who are being proselytized to have to listen to it whether they want to hear it or not. When you combine that kind of twisted thinking with the fact that Evangelical Christians think they're the Blues Brothers, the result is what happened in the video, where the Detroit Police arrested a few people for disturbing the peace and the Christians, of course, refuse to man-up and accept responsibility for their actions and instead try to deflect the blame to Muslims and Sharia law, which fosters hate towards Muslims, and that's a very Christian thing to do.

When you're on a mission from God, you can do no wrong.

 

[RLENT]

When you're on a mission from God, you can do no wrong.

I hear that's the way Osama tells it too .....

 

[layoutshooter]

What about the new lord and master in the White House? He not only "spouts off" all the time but has the power to enforce his swill on us, no matter WHAT the cost! Not much different than Osama in my book.

 

[witness23]

My Lord, give it a rest already. President Obama is the root of all evil, we get it, we get it.

 

[layoutshooter]

My Lord, give it a rest already. President Obama is the root of all evil, we get it, we get it.

No, Obama is NOT the root of all evil, just the current conduit through which it flows. Just another in a VERY long line of anti-American, anti-Constitution scum. Other than that, I don't know him.