The Americans With No Abilities Act (AWNAA)
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spudhead911
Seasoned Expediter
Finally a program for these poor unqualified people. I knew it would be just a matter of time. Next I want to see some meaningful legislation for those who are to lazy to work, I'm sorry we have that already...isn't it Welfare.
What about a program for the totally useless, oh yea, we already have that. It is called the Senate. Layoutshooter
arkjarhead
Veteran Expediter
Are you trying to make fun of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA)? If so I don't think it's funny. See the ADA helps people like me, and many other disabled veterans. Because of it our college teachers and employers can't legally discriminate against us for trying. Because of the ADA I can request a seat next to the door, and get it, so that way if I have a seizure I have peace of mind before hand knowing paramedics will have an easier time getting to me instead of having to move desks and chairs to get a stretcher in. Also when I finish school I can't be turned down for a job JUST because of my disability. I still have to work hard and try like everyone else. I can't be a pilot, but nothing is stopping me from being an Accountant or Lawyer. Luckily you aren't truly disabled like some are. If you were you wouldn't think the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) was so funny. You would be happy we have it. I thankfull for the Congress members that voted for regardless of what party they belonged to. It is making my return to the work force a little less challenging. Kinda helps even the playing field so to speak.
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
Ark,
Since i started the thread, I guess you are directing your question to me, if not, i'll answer anyhow. The Article is a "Fake", it is a "made up" shot at the "WELFARE" system and those that use it! It is directed at the "Entitlement" mentality, those that figure they are owed something instead of working for it. Nothing in the article has any implications direct or indirect at those that benefit from the ADA.
The article wa posted as a joke, not to be taken serious, most would understand that. As to your disablity, you seem think someone that is the furthest from anyone that that article would reference. As you said you can be just about anything you want with some limits, but mot too many, and you have choosen to deal with that and work as a independent person and not a DEPENDENT person.
As for me not being truly disabled, I can't be a police officer, i was dischargered from the military after i was in the middle of a explosion that cost me dearly. I had to go through extensive testing to get into this business because of that "disability", there are more then a few jobs I can't have, thats why i made the decision to work for myself years ago and I have owned and still own more then one business. So while I have no idea what you go through, don't you try and tell me what i am lucky about , you have no idea what goes on in my life daily. I simply choose to live my life in a way that most people have no idea of my limits, its best that way, and I certainly don't take offense to any silly printed article that has nothing to do with any person that truly has a disablity but is directed at those that think someone owes them something, and i really don't think you think anyone owes you a **** thing.
As the old saying goes, "me thinks you protest too much!"
Since i started the thread, I guess you are directing your question to me, if not, i'll answer anyhow. The Article is a "Fake", it is a "made up" shot at the "WELFARE" system and those that use it! It is directed at the "Entitlement" mentality, those that figure they are owed something instead of working for it. Nothing in the article has any implications direct or indirect at those that benefit from the ADA.
The article wa posted as a joke, not to be taken serious, most would understand that. As to your disablity, you seem think someone that is the furthest from anyone that that article would reference. As you said you can be just about anything you want with some limits, but mot too many, and you have choosen to deal with that and work as a independent person and not a DEPENDENT person.
As for me not being truly disabled, I can't be a police officer, i was dischargered from the military after i was in the middle of a explosion that cost me dearly. I had to go through extensive testing to get into this business because of that "disability", there are more then a few jobs I can't have, thats why i made the decision to work for myself years ago and I have owned and still own more then one business. So while I have no idea what you go through, don't you try and tell me what i am lucky about , you have no idea what goes on in my life daily. I simply choose to live my life in a way that most people have no idea of my limits, its best that way, and I certainly don't take offense to any silly printed article that has nothing to do with any person that truly has a disablity but is directed at those that think someone owes them something, and i really don't think you think anyone owes you a **** thing.
As the old saying goes, "me thinks you protest too much!"
arkjarhead
Veteran Expediter
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that "Americans with No Abilities Act" sounds a lot like "Americans with Disabilities Act". I'm not protesting a d@mn thing I'm just speaking my mind, and I'll do it however much I like whether you like it or not.
Whoa...JOE!! Easy up buddy.....you know me...this in no way refers to the disabilities act....its a parody, a spoof...a spin-off...there's nothing meant by it, directed in yours and manys positions with special needs....
We NEED another Nick Fix!!
Jack_Berry
Moderator Emeritus
"Approximately 74 percent of postal employees lack any job skills, making this agency the single largest U.S. employer of persons of Inability.
Private-sector industries with good records of nondiscrimination against the inept include financial advisors (73%), retail sales (72%), the automotive industry (70%), the airline industry (68%), and home improvement "warehouse" stores (65%). At the state government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has a great record of hiring Persons of Inability (63%)."..................
great stuff. must have come from the onion. had me lmao at a bk at a ta
Private-sector industries with good records of nondiscrimination against the inept include financial advisors (73%), retail sales (72%), the automotive industry (70%), the airline industry (68%), and home improvement "warehouse" stores (65%). At the state government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has a great record of hiring Persons of Inability (63%)."..................
great stuff. must have come from the onion. had me lmao at a bk at a ta
arkjarhead
Veteran Expediter
I guess my sense of humor has dried up.
Joe, I think you're just having a hard time with being thought of as "disabled" - perfectly natural, for someone who wants to be, and is used to being, independent. But the spoof wasn't aimed at persons with disabilities, just persons with NO abilities, or desires to obtain some.
I'm disappointed too - thought there was finally gonna be a way for my worthless brother to get a job, sigh.
I'm disappointed too - thought there was finally gonna be a way for my worthless brother to get a job, sigh.
arkjarhead
Veteran Expediter
Well I apologize for getting upset. There is some what of a stigma that goes along with being disabled because so many scam the system. Then they make things hard the ones who are actually disabled.
Those that know a little about me know there is very little I wouldn't trade to be back in a truck right now. I've often told family and friends they can keep their money if I could have my good health back. Don't get me wrong I'm loving my life. For instance, my wife and I are starting at a new university after doing course work at a community college. She was feeling well after her outpatient surgery that she had yesterday. So tonight I got to go to the free bowling the university sponsored as part of "Welcome Week". I met some guys from the fraternity my brother in law is an alumni of (different chapter) and made a couple contacts. They invited me to the frat room (no houses on campus) Thursday night to hang out. Looks like I might get to pledge. They are cool with the fact I'm married. My wife is also cool with the idea. So yeah I'm loving life. If I don't get a bid after Rush I may be let down so I'm not trying to get my hopes to high. I guess I'm just not vein enough to pray and ask God for a pledge bid from Tau Kappa Epsilon. I joined the Marines because I wanted to. I got married young because i wanted. I would like to like to be in fraternity and I'm still young enough so I figure why not.
Those that know a little about me know there is very little I wouldn't trade to be back in a truck right now. I've often told family and friends they can keep their money if I could have my good health back. Don't get me wrong I'm loving my life. For instance, my wife and I are starting at a new university after doing course work at a community college. She was feeling well after her outpatient surgery that she had yesterday. So tonight I got to go to the free bowling the university sponsored as part of "Welcome Week". I met some guys from the fraternity my brother in law is an alumni of (different chapter) and made a couple contacts. They invited me to the frat room (no houses on campus) Thursday night to hang out. Looks like I might get to pledge. They are cool with the fact I'm married. My wife is also cool with the idea. So yeah I'm loving life. If I don't get a bid after Rush I may be let down so I'm not trying to get my hopes to high. I guess I'm just not vein enough to pray and ask God for a pledge bid from Tau Kappa Epsilon. I joined the Marines because I wanted to. I got married young because i wanted. I would like to like to be in fraternity and I'm still young enough so I figure why not.
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Joe...I'd like to think dis-advantaged...theres still alot you can do...and you and Robin have had your share of life to deal with at such a young age and your both hanging in and going to school and working thru this set back.....Your a mighty BIG man Joe.....You've never backed down from a challenge....you'll do just fine.....
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
Joe, 1st off there is no need to apologies at all, no harm no foul. As for being disabled, as OVM said, its a "disadvantage" you are working to over come, there is no disability there!
Pleadge that fraternity, and add to your college experience, you will enjoy and also make some **** good "life connections!" Just don't take the "hazing" too far!!
As I said, I don't look at people with "issues" as disabled as long as they are working to better themselves and if they use the system (ADA) to do that, more power to them (that is why it is there), but those that can do fro themselves and choose to let the government take care of them, they get no where with me... That last statement does NOT describe you at all!!
I won't wish you luck with your college education. I believe we take what is infront of us and make it work to our advantage, and that is exactly what you are doing!! Be proud of yourself and move forward..... Again , "no harm, no foul!!"
Pleadge that fraternity, and add to your college experience, you will enjoy and also make some **** good "life connections!" Just don't take the "hazing" too far!!
As I said, I don't look at people with "issues" as disabled as long as they are working to better themselves and if they use the system (ADA) to do that, more power to them (that is why it is there), but those that can do fro themselves and choose to let the government take care of them, they get no where with me... That last statement does NOT describe you at all!!
I won't wish you luck with your college education. I believe we take what is infront of us and make it work to our advantage, and that is exactly what you are doing!! Be proud of yourself and move forward..... Again , "no harm, no foul!!"
Jayman
Expert Expediter
It also sounds an awful lot like the bull doody I would expect our Democratic congress to be putting out.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Hey, I think there are a lot of misconceptions about the ADA here.
First thing is that you can’t use it, it is there like the civil rights laws there to protect you. It is not a system, entitlement or anything like that.
Second thing, it was never a really good law, loosely defined and still has a lot of gray areas. If it had specifics in it, it would be better but like a lot of the feel good laws, it never was well thought out.
Third thing it was not supposed to cost a lot of money to be exact President Bush (I) said “I know there may have been concerns that the ADA may be too vague or too costly, or may lead endlessly to litigation. But I want to reassure you right now that my administration and the United States Congress have carefully crafted this Act. We've all been determined to ensure that it gives flexibility, particularly in terms of the timetable of implementation; and we've been committed to containing the costs that may be incurred.... Let the shameful wall of exclusion finally come tumbling down.”
Well Mr. Bush, it has cost a fortune, ran a number of businesses out of business and has been one of a few laws that triggered a large amount of frivolous lawsuits. Now this does not mean that it hasn’t corrected to a point that ‘shameful’ wall of exclusion, it has to a point but there were better things proposed.
Fourth, the law covers only major disabilities, there are a few that don’t get covered but that does not stop the abuses by a large number of people. One I saw happen was hiring a person who was blind to do paper work, tabbing it and filing it, an internal posting was made and a blind lady from another department was convinced that she could do the job because the ADA said she could. They tried to tell her she needed to see the paper but because she screamed discrimination; the company knew that they had a problem and went ahead by putting her in the position. They had one of the summer interns trained to do the work while this lady only stacked paper. In the fall, they hired the intern, telling her that they would cover her school expenses in the fall of the next year for the time she worked there. The lady ended up getting sick just before July and she left the company, the intern stayed on until August and then she was gone.
I think that we can make fun of the law, it is something that has helped people but hurt others in doing so.
But remember Ark, the law is the tool that gets you an equal playing field, the person who is facing the difficulty is what really matters. Putting your mind to anything and succeeding matters, just look at what that guy Phelps did in China.
First thing is that you can’t use it, it is there like the civil rights laws there to protect you. It is not a system, entitlement or anything like that.
Second thing, it was never a really good law, loosely defined and still has a lot of gray areas. If it had specifics in it, it would be better but like a lot of the feel good laws, it never was well thought out.
Third thing it was not supposed to cost a lot of money to be exact President Bush (I) said “I know there may have been concerns that the ADA may be too vague or too costly, or may lead endlessly to litigation. But I want to reassure you right now that my administration and the United States Congress have carefully crafted this Act. We've all been determined to ensure that it gives flexibility, particularly in terms of the timetable of implementation; and we've been committed to containing the costs that may be incurred.... Let the shameful wall of exclusion finally come tumbling down.”
Well Mr. Bush, it has cost a fortune, ran a number of businesses out of business and has been one of a few laws that triggered a large amount of frivolous lawsuits. Now this does not mean that it hasn’t corrected to a point that ‘shameful’ wall of exclusion, it has to a point but there were better things proposed.
Fourth, the law covers only major disabilities, there are a few that don’t get covered but that does not stop the abuses by a large number of people. One I saw happen was hiring a person who was blind to do paper work, tabbing it and filing it, an internal posting was made and a blind lady from another department was convinced that she could do the job because the ADA said she could. They tried to tell her she needed to see the paper but because she screamed discrimination; the company knew that they had a problem and went ahead by putting her in the position. They had one of the summer interns trained to do the work while this lady only stacked paper. In the fall, they hired the intern, telling her that they would cover her school expenses in the fall of the next year for the time she worked there. The lady ended up getting sick just before July and she left the company, the intern stayed on until August and then she was gone.
I think that we can make fun of the law, it is something that has helped people but hurt others in doing so.
But remember Ark, the law is the tool that gets you an equal playing field, the person who is facing the difficulty is what really matters. Putting your mind to anything and succeeding matters, just look at what that guy Phelps did in China.