Bison...along state highway 20....go west out of Mobridge theres 12 and 20 breaks off...after the Missouri river....Lots of water well for SD up that area... with the reservior...Zip 57620 if ya google it....
shoot to kill
- Thread starter LDB
- Start date
I will look at it. I kinda recogmend that you don't start off shooting with a shotgun first. IF you were going to use one on big cats and wolf's the smallest gauge I would even begin to trust would be a 12 gauge, a 10 would be better. I would say you start of on a good quality .22 or .22mag. Learn the basics on something that does not have a ton of recoil. A 12 gauge can put a hurt on a shoulder after just a few shots. It can cause you to form bad habits, like flinching. Hard to break once you have them. Start small and work up. Don't let anyone bully you into a heavy recoil gun to start. Pain is not macho. Well placed shots are. Once you learn things like proper site pictures, breathing and trigger control and can shoot a good group with a .22 at 50 yards then you can move up to something heavier. Remember that shooting a shotgun and a rifle are totally differernt. You aim a rifle and "point' a shotgun. Differents stances etc. Sounds complicated but is not really. The more you get into it the more interesting and fun it becomes. Ask questions till it hurts and if I can help in anyway let me know. layoutshooter
For sure LDB, that is why I suggested starting off with a .22. A shotgun is just not the right thing for protection from dangerous animals. Too iffy. I don't like to see anyone start off on a shotgun, too much recoil. You could use a semi-auto 20 gauge, gas operated, not too bad on the recoil. Some see to like those 20 single shots, kick like a mule. A .410 or the 28 gauge is light on recoil but the shot load is so small it makes it hard for a person just starting. They are really expert gauges. I even like starting people on a quality air rifle. Very good for teaching basics. That is what we used in 4H. I had one of my female students make the US junior Olympic team. Went out to Colorado Springs to train with the real team. Not that I think OVM has all that much to worry about. Cats and wolfs like to stay away from people for the most part. I would be more worried about rabbid racoons. Layoutshooter
Be sure to wear GOOD ear protection. The sound is more of a problem than the recoil to a beginner. I was at the range once with a friend. There were 3 young women shooting pistol a few lanes over. One shot fairly well. Another took the pistol and hit paper with about 1/2 her shots. She didn't have good hearing protection. I asked if they'd like me to fix the pistol to recoil less before she shot again. They said yes. I handed her a spare set of GOOD cans (over the head very good hearing protectors) and told her to put them on while I fixed the pistol. I took it, turned away from them and made a few meaningless movements while her friend who owned the gun watched, and handed the pistol back. She fired another magazine and hit paper every time.
Imagine the "recoil" when someone gives you a high five. Then imagine that "recoil" of there was a LOUD report associated with it. It would be no different in actuality but your computer (brain) would combine the inputs of feel and sound and the cummulative total registering in your brain will mean the recoil feels greater than it actually is due to lack of sound suppression.
Imagine the "recoil" when someone gives you a high five. Then imagine that "recoil" of there was a LOUD report associated with it. It would be no different in actuality but your computer (brain) would combine the inputs of feel and sound and the cummulative total registering in your brain will mean the recoil feels greater than it actually is due to lack of sound suppression.
You are correct, not to mention that you don't want to go deaf. Layoutshooter
The Cats out here a pretty brave..latest cases people coming out on thier porches and cat laying there sunning....just the other day guy looked out his window and cat was staring back at him...cat jumped thru window to attack and both man and wife shot cat....domestic pets are easy prey for these cats....so they are coming into town...
Odd behavior for wild animals. Was the one that attacked sick? Is there a shortage of rabbits etc? That is more thier normal food. We have VERY large black bear around our land in the PA mountians. In the 600lb class. PA have large bear in general. They take many a few in excess of 700lbs every year. That is confirmed weights, on a certified scale. They rarely bother people. I will have to do some reading to see why the big problem with the cats. Very odd. I still say start small and work your way up. It does not matter how big or small your gun is if you can't shoot and kill on the first shot. Layoutshooter
Layout...the cats are aggressive for some reason...getting booted out of the Black Hills for Condos....they've even chased them around Rapid City streets....They love kitty cats as well...for food that is....
so a 22 rifle to start?
so a 22 rifle to start?
Ah, man messing with habbitat will do it. No reason the for the big cats not to eat the little ones. Maybe it's not only the Chinesse restaraunts that know what's good!!! LOL Yep, the .22 rifle would be my first choice for learning. Don't look at to cheap and no need to go to a olympic target rifle. I tend to buy middle to high middle when I buy a rifle. If I buy new. I look for higher quality if I buy used. The .22 has no noticable recoil and is fairly quiet. It is also very inexpensive to buy ammo. You can plink alllll day for $10-20. Keep on the shorter ranges to start. 25-50 yards, no more. Nothing is better for learning a new skill than early sucess. Layoutshooter
As to makes and models. If I don't have run over the weekend I will FORCE myself to find a sporting goods shop and look at a few. I will send a message to you with some suggestions in different price ranges. Layoutshooter
we lost a barn cat last night probably a big cat GF&P says....the screaming from the puddy tat was aweful...
The problem in our area is coyotes. Before we started expediting we had an older dog. She was VERY slow by that time and sick. We could not leave her outside on her own. We had to watch her every minute. Especiaslly early in the morning or late at night. She would have been an easy meal for a coyote. Living in areas witlh wildlife is alway a challenge. When we lived in NW PA we have the bears to contend with, in town too. I lived in Oil City and had a 300# bear on my back porch one day. What was odd about that is that it was summer. Bears tend to come into town in early spring when food is not plentiful. The neighbor said that the bear just sat on the porch, staring at the door like it wanted in. Stayed there for about 10 minutes then wondered off down towards the river. We always took precations to insure there was no trash laying about etc. Maybe it just wanted to say hi? Layoutshooter
jujubeans
OVM Project Manager
speculation is bobcat or cougar..my quilting buddy that just lives north of town by a few miles spotted one...and heard that cousin Brad had one near his gravel pit..only five miles to the west.
Greg, anytime you need help with deer control let me know, I would be happy to assist you with that problem!!!! LOL The 10/22 is not a bad rifle, I own one. The Kimbers are really nice but pricey. I like the bolt action over the semi-autos, more accurate. A bit slower on a second shot but you should only need one shot if you know what your doing. There are several good .22's. I just have not kept up on the market because I am no longer in the business. Helping OVM is a great excuse to go to a sporting goods store and fondle rifles!! It will get us out of the truck too!!! A true win win!! Layoutshooter
Glad I could help your cause!!*LOL* Just blame me...it's the "in" thing...*L*
We are not "blaming" you, we just like to pick on you!!!! LOL Not a lot to do out here and any entertainment is better than no entertainment!!!! LOL!!!!!! layoutshooter