shoot to kill

tallcal101

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Wait a minute,you are particpating in a discussion about how to kill human beings that happen to be close to a border("anything that moves") written by a parinoid little man with many big guns (and did not exclude women and children).In reality,he does not have the couage to back those words up,but never the less,it's the topic of the day.
This thread is not about Obama or abortion.It's about picking off children at 100 or 500 yards. Period. Nothing more then boasting and bluster by a bored short man with too much time on his hands and to many guns.If you think killing is such a moraly wrong thing to do,and I don't questions that,there is a contradiction here that I'm not getting. If you and the little guy wish to go pick off Mexican babies and women,your no better then any Dox or any terorists or any other butchers that engage is such grusome activity and get excited discussing it on a public forum.
Like I said,Grand Theft Auto 2 is right up your ally,big time stress reliever for frustrated gun boys.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
The thread started about Mexican troops crossing our border, that is an invasion. As to the criminals that cross our borders illegally, they should be rounded up and deported. I take it also that you have never been an EMT/ParaMedic/Firefighter or member of a rescue crew. I doubt if you would understand the meaning of "galllows" humor. We all used to "laugh" and "joke" around the fire hall about this and that. It eased tension. Those crass "little men" you make fun of would put thier lives on the line at the drop of a hat for ANYONE! Friend or stranger it did not matter. I don't see Obama ever putting his life on the line for anything. He is too power hungry and self centered. On of the proudest days of my life is when I got my "Stork" a pink one, for helping to deliver a baby girl to the world. She just could not wait to join us and her mom could not get to the hospital. I cannot fathom just letting that beautiful, pink, messy, stinky, slime covered person JUST LAY THERE AND DIE. I will defend my families lives, my friends lives and mine. I will defend my way of life. I trust people that are willing to risk thier lives for others. That is the kind of person I hand around with. Not whiners, losers, cry babies, or buck passers. In other words, no polititians and no Obama's polititian or not. As to the first tri-mester being legal that must be a bovine fetus til the second tri-mester. Remeber "First do no harm". I know firefighters and EMT's in Detroit who have been fired on by "community activists" when they answered a fire call or ambulance call. The "activists" would often place these calls faulsly to "lure" these corragious people to the scene and then attack them. Good people these "community activists". They "justified" thier actions by saying that "Whitey" has held them down and they were just attacking authority figures. What "great men" they were. Now in that case, no bullet would be big enough for them. Yes, I would shoot to kill in that case. Layoutshooter
 

layoutshooter

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LOL, a little to tired. I do have to say that when I had to deal with the man he treated me with respect. He was a really really big wig and I was a "not so big wig" but he assumed that I knew what I was doing. He was right, I did, but he just assumed that if I was good enough to be appointed to that position that I was good enough to know my stuff. He also has character. When he had a hunting accident he took responsibility and stayed. Unlike Uncle Teddy who had an "accident" and ran like the slimey coward that he is. Make that slimey drunken coward and mayber murderer. Layoutshooter
 

tallcal101

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The article your refrered to was out of a right wing hate site that named no sources and was a contride piece of c***. The little man hangs around those site and has posted their hate mongering cr** many times. And I have called him on it several times.
I know all about new borns as I delivered my two with my own hands by choice in a log cabin in the Santa Cruz mountains. I did not trust the hospitals who hire minimum wage employee's to keep things clean in delivery rooms and nurseries.
You may find this interesting. I was flying from Boston to San Francisco 8 years ago on a MD 80 rear engine aircraft.As we rolled down runway 212 at Loagn (the farthest runeway out on the water) the planee screeched to a stop just before we went in the drink. At 6 ft 7 I always sit in the emergency exit row. The plane was on fire. The left engine on the rear of the plane was engulfed in flames. My seat neighbor and I opened the door,he hopped down,and begin emergency evacuation of our section,mostly retired folks on a tour.
We got them all off (I was standing on the gas tank of a rapidly spreading fire) when a jerk hopped seats and burst out my door.. He pushed me off the wing onto the run way when he tripped over the door.Every one else ran and left me on the run way bleeding with a broken knee cap and nose. I tried to drag myself but it hurt too much. This whole thing was being watched from the tower. When the first responder got there,they picked me up and put me in the front seat of the big fire rig. I was scraming in pain. When the parmedics got there they told me I was a hero and they took me to the hopital. I was interviewed by CNN after surgery and given the highest civilian award by the City of Boston fire department. It hangs on my wall. I saved 50 lives and my thanks from my fellow passengers was to run as far away from the plane as they could.
It was the right thing to do and I'm not looking for any glory. But threads like this are not gallows humor,far from its. It's the passing around of a little man with hate in his heart and a belief our salvation is in guns and killing women and children.Get the breeders and young one first and their's no future for the rest.It's sick and it's commom and it speaks to the worst in us.SHOOT TO KILL.
I know something about life and death shooter.
 
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layoutshooter

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Glad to hear you not like those who run the political parties in this country, all of them. They all suck. As to hospital and hiring pratices, I can not comment. My aunt worked and my cousins wife still works in a hospital. I don't know what my aunt made but my cousins wifes makes WAY over minimum wage, she is NOT a professional. Of course she can read and write standard American English, that does help. As to minimum wage, I believe that the Federal Government does NOT have the right to dictate what wages a job is worth or not. I believe it is illegal for them to do that. As with many of the things that they do. Both major parties. Just like I think welfare is illegal, social securtiy, medicare, medicade, subsidised housing, subsidised public tranportation and on and on. NO polititian is competent enough to run my life. Besides, it' not thier job. It's my job to run thiers. At least that is how the Constitution is written. Obama would have made speach on that airplane instead of helping. You should hang out with my firefighter friends, real men. Not wooses. You never did answer one question I asked, forgetting the law, what the courts say or don't say, what the Dems or the Repubs say, could you just let that half aborted baby just lay there and die? Character IS important and Obama's stance on this shows me that he has none. Layoutshooter
 

layoutshooter

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Aristole, please explain your last comment, I don't understand. Not that that is anything new. LOL Layoutshooter
 

layoutshooter

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Heck talcal, I would even treat Bill Clinton if I was still an EMT. Of course I would triple glove, wear 3 "bio" suits and 4 full face protectors. With his backround who knows what he might be carrying. A giant walking virus. Layoutshooter
 

tallcal101

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Funny you should mention Marfans.I just had my aorta measured yesterday. All is good. However,my Father died of Marfans,my brother has it as does my daughter.It's obvious you would not have mentioned it unless you know about it. I don't think I've ever spoken about it on this site. Are you insuating Marfans might have something to do with my politics,or my brain function? if so,I'm in good company as big Abe is rumored to have it,as is Michael Phleps (a classic Marfans body).

In any event,I just hang around here to play devils advocate. I may soon get kicked off as I probaly have stepped over the line with a certain moderator who loves to boot members when they don't agree with him. So be it if thats the case.

You all have no opposition so you just spin the propoganda and right wing agenda and ignore so many obvious short comings of your heros.Those of us who have endured the last 8 years and predicted the out come were called doom and gloom and worse. Problem is,we were right,and people much brighter then me have chronicled it in book after book. The latest one I just finished is titled The Bush Tragedy. An excellent read thet goes back 2 generations to the Walkers and the Bush's, and how this bad gene has been passed down. A really bizarr bunch from top to bottom. George can't help it,it's a genetic thing,like Marfans except it's a brain disfuction and not connective tissue issue.

Abortion,paticualrly late stage abortion cannot be defined by what may or mat not be confirmed medical eveidence of fetus's living outside the womb as life.I'm not doubting your assumption that it may have happened,I've just not seen evidence other then the crazy guy who drives around with a bull horn and pictures of fetus's plastered all over his car.
But I will research the issue,and get eveidence from reliable sources and get back to you. If I find what you say is true beyond a doubt,I will consider the data in the big picture.
I still maintain there is no basis for talk of killing anything that moves from 500 yards.He was not joking. I know him and his philosiphy to well. He is dead serious,even though I don't think he would do it.
 
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layoutshooter

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I am just talking in hypothectical, Obama voted twice to NOT require a second doctor be brought in to give care for a baby that is born alive during an abortion. That is lack of character. As to the fetus, they are alive at conception. If a scienctist found the remains of a zygot on Mars he would shout to the heavens that thier had been life on Mars. If I kill a Condor egg in it's first tri-mester I would go to jail. I guess human babies don't need protection. I don't understand that. It does not make sense. Still want to know what YOU would do. Not anyone else. That is a yes or no. Really simple, not politics, no candidates, just you, could you let that baby just lay there and die?

As to Marfans, I know little about it and have no idea why that was brought up. Glad to hear you don't have it and very sorry to hear about your family that does. As to Lincoln, he was wrong. The South had the right to succeed. That is when the Government started to tear down the Constitution. And before anyone screams I backed slavery, the war was not fought over that issue. It was fought over states rights. The south was wrong on slavery but right on the rights issues.

No opposition? CNN ABC CBS NBC, MoveOn. ORG, and on on and on. And let us not forget Hollywood, the rich and the usless. Nothing more useless than signers,dancers,actors,ball players, etc. Just overpaid kids, now, my garbage man, Now that is a VERY important person.

I hope you don't get kicked out, then I would only have OVM to pick on and he is learning the truth and soon he won't be as much fun.
 

LDB

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I love it when Cal visits. It's so entertaining and often insulting. I don't kill children and would turn them around the direction they came from. I would have no problem with shooting a Mexican army soldier who is on U.S. soil with a U.S. citizen under the gun however. I love how the liberals attack the individual, in this case the comments about someone of average height. Doesn't bother me because I know I'm exactly the right height. My feet just reach the ground perfectly without any leg leftover and without any shortage of leg requiring tiptoeing. Interesting how 100 yards has grown to 500 yards. Must be the same math the liberals were using when they figured out we were in a recession that didn't exist.

I love how liberals see things. It's fine to murder babies during the first 3 months and for many it's fine to murder them as long as they aren't over 3 minutes old but suggest capital punishment for a repeat violent offender and they mess themselves over how wrong that is. It's fine to kill in the first trimester because the babies aren't viable outside the womb anyway. That presents an ideal solution so we can execute criminals. We'll put them in scuba gear and put them under water. We can then kill them since without the scuba they aren't viable anyway so they aren't human, just like without the umbilical for the baby.

I don't ban anyone from the forum. That's up to the administrator and owner.
 
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layoutshooter

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Ah Leo, Great minds think alike!!! You must have a great mind since you think like me!!!! LOL You know the other thing that the left/liberals/Marxists don't have is a sense of humor. Everything is bad or a crisis and only they are smart enough to fix it for me. The only time I have ever felt dumber than when talking with a lib is when my kids where in thier teens. My youngest (31 now) once said when he was around 25 that he thought I must be reading more cause I was much smarter now than when he was a kid!!! Layoutshooter
 

OntarioVanMan

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shooter said "I hope you don't get kicked out, then I would only have OVM to pick on and he is learning the truth and soon he won't be as much fun."

Hey now....the jury is still out...so your fun won't be cut short anytime soon.....*L*
 

tallcal101

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I don't recall your limiting your shoot to to kill post to Mexican security forces. The artcle your so prouid of names no sources and is from a right wing rag that distorts the truth or just makes it as it goes along. I'm very familiar with the site.Mexican security forces and police partrol the border roads for many reasons,all of them legit. There alos bad apples as there is in the US. I was once assited when my car broke down out side Aqua Prieta on the Mexican side of the border. They were very helpful. to kill.I don't get it.
I think you may have bitten off more then you can chew by even suggesting that our border philosiphy shoiud be shoot to kill anythingthat moves.Come on Leo,that's either a really bad joke or the rantings of a man so out of touch with reality that it's a joke on face value.Either way,it stirred my juices to think you would even say a thing.
Your stature was probably out of line,but I have gone out of my way to keep it within the lines since I have been posting. I apologize for the insult,it was not appropriate.Marfans is no joke either what ever your name is (mental midget comes to mind) but thats another story as well.
Please re read this thread and tell me it's not all about bringing down humans from any distance including 500 yeards.
 

layoutshooter

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Typical liberal, cannot answer a straight up yes/no question. I did not put the artical up. I will shoot invading forces. Invading criminals should be deported. All illegal aliens are criminals. They committed a crime that makes them a criminal. Now, can you just yes or no answer the question?

Glad to hear it OVM, I need the stimulation!!! LOL Layoutshooter
 

OntarioVanMan

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Ya know I do lean liberal because of my Canuck upbringing BUT after reading Cal's statements for a long time I could never lean THAT far....on that note don't think I could lean the other way like way over either...

Shooter, I took a practice citizenship test and scored 85%, wife was impressed I knew of Patrick Henrys "give me liberty" and thats there's 27 amendments and the Constitution was written in 1786 not 1776 ! ...$575 for the exam!
 

layoutshooter

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Congrats!!!! I might have trouble with a text like that. My civics, like all other subjects, has suffered over the years. Too lazy to keep up I guess. I don't "lean" anyway. I have a set of core beliefs that I was raised with and I live by those rules. I guess the main things are the following. Take care of my responsibitiles. My family and my self. Don't expect others to take care of our needs. Charity is a gift to be freely given, not forced by law. Crimes are only committed by criminals. Punish criminals, not law abiding citizens. Freedom is more important than security. Mind your own business not others. Be civil and courtious at all times. Help those who are in need of help, not by force of law but by doing what is right by man. Earn your way. I live by those rules. Liberals do not. They want to "force" charity, excuse criminal behavior, and encorage sloth. That is why I don't like liberals. I don't think your are a liberal, just confused. I sense hope for you!!! Oh, one must have a sense of humor too!!! Layoutshooter
 

OntarioVanMan

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Congrats!!!! I might have trouble with a text like that. My civics, like all other subjects, has suffered over the years. Too lazy to keep up I guess. I don't "lean" anyway. I have a set of core beliefs that I was raised with and I live by those rules. I guess the main things are the following. Take care of my responsibitiles. My family and my self. Don't expect others to take care of our needs. Charity is a gift to be freely given, not forced by law. Crimes are only committed by criminals. Punish criminals, not law abiding citizens. Freedom is more important than security. Mind your own business not others. Be civil and courtious at all times. Help those who are in need of help, not by force of law but by doing what is right by man. Earn your way. I live by those rules. Liberals do not. They want to "force" charity, excuse criminal behavior, and encorage sloth. That is why I don't like liberals. I don't think your are a liberal, just confused. I sense hope for you!!! Oh, one must have a sense of humor too!!! Layoutshooter

HumoUr you forgot the U...*LOL*

Questions and Answers for New Naturalization Test
 

layoutshooter

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LOL!!!!!!!!! I told you my brain is slipping!!!! On a really funny and related side note. I once, I think is was in the third grade, got a spelling award. The reason for that award was the "C" I got on that weeks spelling test. The nun that taught spelling was just so thrilled that I finally passed a spelling test!!!! The first that year. Not my best subject. Spell check was invented for me. Layoutshooter
 
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