Saul Alinsky

[louixo]

Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909 - June 12, 1972) was an
American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered
to be the founder of modern community organizing. He authored the
book, "Rules for Radicals."

In this book, he details the 8 levels of control that must be
obtained in order to create a social state.

The first is the most important!

1. HEALTHCARE: Control healthcare and you control the people.

2. POVERTY: Increase the Poverty level as high as possible. Poor
people are easier to control, and will not fight back as long
as you are providing everything they require to live.

3. DEBT: Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. In this way,
taxes must increase, and this will produce more poverty.

4. GUN CONTROL: Remove the ability for citizens to defend
themselves from the Government. In that way you are able to
create a police state.

5. WELFARE: Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food,
Housing and Income).

6. EDUCATION: Take control of what children read and to what
they are taught in school.

7. RELIGION: Remove the belief in God from the Government
and schools.

8. CLASS WARFARE: Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor.
This will cause more discontent, and it will be easier to tax
the wealthy with the support of the poor.

 

[davekc]

Have to wonder if Bill & Hillary are studying this?

 

[jamom123]

Kind of scary if you compare it to the things going on.

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[layoutshooter]

This is the ONLY "bible" that Obama adores.

 

[cheri1122]

Insurance companies control health care - are they generally socialist?

 

[layoutshooter]

This nation is INFESTED with leftists. This bum, Obama, fit the bill.

 

[davekc]

Insurance companies control health care - are they generally socialist?

No. Healthcare is controlled by the individual states and the Feds. Look no further than Obama and his change with the health care law every other day because it is failing. Government even dictates how much money they can make. So yep, that is a socialist agenda.

 

[layoutshooter]

No. Healthcare is controlled by the individual states and the Feds. Look no further than Obama and his change with the health care law every other day because it is failing. Government even dictates how much money they can make.

The government is taking over every aspect of our lives, including health care. There are no free markets left to help control the government. Government is CLEARLY out of control. Obama care is proof of that. The fact that there are sheeple out there who believe that Obama Care is there to benefit them is proof the government is winning. Public indoctrination centers, public schools, have done their job well.

 

[davekc]

The government is taking over every aspect of our lives, including health care. There are no free markets left to help control the government. Government is CLEARLY out of control. Obama care is proof of that. The fact that there are sheeple out there who believe that Obama Care is there to benefit them is proof the government is winning. Public indoctrination centers, public schools, have done their job well.

They Feds are in control of it. If a insurance company passes a government mandated profit threshold, they now must rebate the difference back to policy holders. That is why some received a check last year from their provider. The only thing pertaining to certain items (not profits) can rule over the Fed and that is the individual state regulators. Unless of course it goes to court.
Because of all the Obamacare screw ups and a capped profit margin on insurance carriers, it is likely in the next couple of years if not sooner they will require a government financial bailout.
They are already talking about it. They just aren't sure of the amount yet. And of course, Obama has already agreed to it.

 

[layoutshooter]

It is what as known as a government take over of a free economy. Kinda evil if you as me. Seen it in the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Communist China etc etc. We now see it the in early years of the "Soviet Socialist States of North America" which is a division of the "World Soviet Confederation" formally known as the United Nations.

What we are headed for:

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I can picture Obama in a few years as a "big fat mamma" not much of a man now to be sure.

 

[LDB]

Insurance companies control health care - are they generally socialist?

Ever heard of Maxine Waters?

 

[Turtle]

Kind of scary if you compare it to the things going on.

And that's exactly why this piece was written, to scare you. Saul Alinsky didn't write any of the above. Someone else did, though, and put Alinski's name to it to give it gravity, and to increase your anger (assuming you're already angry at the other famous community organizer from Chicago, and if not, to make you angry at him because, you know, you're supposed to be angry at him).

Am I the only one around here with Spidey Sense? I mean, c'mon, right out of the gate, control healthcare and you control the people? Seriously? Saul Alinsky, nor anyone else, couldn't have cared less about using healthcare to control the people in the 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s. Sheesh.

snopes.com: Saul Alinsky: How to Create a Social State

On a side note, the Milky Way, Mars and even the Moon have candies named after them, but for some reason no one has decided to name a candy after Uranus.

 

[RLENT]

Am I the only one around here with Spidey Sense?

In terms of those participating in this thread, or the EO membership generally ?

 

[Opel2010]

That's what Marxism-Leninism was all about.

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[letzrockexpress]

Love it or leave it?

 

[layoutshooter]

Marxism, and all similar systems, should be fought in every way possible. It is evil.

 

[letzrockexpress]

Marxism, and all similar systems, should be fought in every way possible. It is evil.

It's not evil. Most of the people who tried to implement it were evil but the philosophy itself is not evil. Salvador Allende was not evil. His brand of Marxism was wildly popular and successful, so much so that in his paranoia and desire to turn our attention away from Watergate, Nixon sent the CIA down to Chile to convince Pinochet' to over throw Allende's government. Over the next few weeks they killed thousands of his followers with guns, knives, picks, shovels, and hammers. Yeah. Hammers. They then helped to install the ruthless general as the new leader of Chile. THAT is evil.

 

[layoutshooter]

Marxism is evil and must be fought where ever it raises it's ugly head. ALL Marxist leaders are evil, including Obama. NO Marxist government, or government in general, can be trusted. Government MUST be contained, and controlled, by the People. Marxism controls the People.

 

[letzrockexpress]

Marxism is evil and must be fought where ever it raises it's ugly head. ALL Marxist leaders are evil, including Obama. NO Marxist government, or government in general, can be trusted. Government MUST be contained, and controlled, by the People. Marxism controls the People.

One who is either scared to or refuses to consider options is not an authority on anything.

 

[layoutshooter]

One who is either scared to or refuses to consider options is not an authority on anything.

I am not scared, just determined to remain free. I am willing to consider ALL options that lead to LESS government and MORE freedom. That removes ALL forms of Marxism. The very basis of Marxism IS government control of the People.

Nice work on addressing the post. I won't play the rest of your game.