Obama as Hitler

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
You are correct. It is our job, the Peoples job, to control the government. We have not been doing our job. If we want to retain our freedom and our Republic we have to get rid of everyone in elected office and start over. They have been usurping our powers and rights for years. We must take it back. Obama is a VERY dangerous person. His ideas are the same ideas that caused the deaths of over 100 MILLION people last century. Make no mistake about it. Our government in now in the rulling mode, not the mode of service to the People. They are grossly overstepping the bounds and limits place on them by the Constitution of these United States of America. They must be stopped. Layoutshooter
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Well 1st the cold and callous quote would be a good to compare my comments,
Huh ?

I think the frothiness is taking it's toll .... you are starting to drop out whole words from your sentences, so that what you post no longer expresses a cogent (even if misguided) thought ...

Mebbe that's why you are so enamored of copying and pasting the writings of others ...... can't construct your own ?

but it didn't come from me, it came from Pilgram,
Lemme guess ..... you figure that I missed that little aspect when I replied ?

Sorry to disappoint, but I knew full well whose post it was when I quoted it. That Pilgrim said it, is of little matter and largely irrelevant - that it provided a comparison between you and Obama to show how similar the two of you might be was really the point.

now if you see me has cold and callous in me opinions of obama , say so, don't use anothers quote when he wasn't using it towards me,
I'll use anothers quote wherever I see fit to illustrate whatever point I'm trying to make - and if you don't like it I'd suggest you may want to reconsider posting on an open forum - otherwise .... just get over it ..... afterall, it is the internet.

As far as seeing you as cold and callous in your opinion of Obama, that certainly wasn't in anything I posted ..... I think you missed the point of what I wrote .....

just step up and say it yourself about me, i mean with my syance on muslums, you certainly have enough ammo
What ? .... you are having seances with Muslims now ?

Listen, I made my point in what I posted - and in case that point wasn't clear to you, I'll spell out the overall concept - which is a little deeper - that I was trying to illustrate:

Those at the extreme opposite ends of the political spectrum, are often more alike than they are different. The "issues" that either end parrots and purports to espouse are of little real importance - not because the issues aren't important (they are) - but because both, in seeking to accomplish their respective ends, are generally willing to stoop to the gutter to succeed. The ends justify the means. A good example of that would be:

"Anything to discredit him works for me"

That you freely admit the above (without any sense of shame whatsoever .... my, my ...) clearly puts you in the class of a fanatic - you can figure out fairly easily what kind of company that puts you in (the holy jihad readily comes to mind) - but to be clear: it puts you in the same class of folks that you are probably largely against - some of which are a fairly unsavory lot indeed.

but as to birds of a feather, maybe, but only in a personally trait, not on any issues....
Like I said, in this instance, the issues are really of little importance - what is important is the lengths you will go to, to accomplish your ends (discrediting Obama)

An individual can claim to be for or against anything - words are relatively cheap ..... but the true character and nature of a man is not only what he believes (layout's "core beliefs") ..... but also in how he conducts himself in his affairs with his fellow man, both in word, and in deed.

And I will add that it is good that you recognize that trait in Barry,
You are perverting the intent of my communication - rather than just receiving what I was sending and then just understanding that (.... which says more than you can possibly imagine)

Really, it's not all that tough - it is possible to receive what another says - and then get it - you can do it.

Just to be clear, in what I wrote, I recognized no such trait in Obama - I was only making a comparison between you and someone else's opinion of him - and under that criteria how much alike the two of you would apparently be.

Me I admit it, he'll just lie and cover it up......
While you might well admit it (and he might lie about it) that alone, in no way puts you on any higher moral ground - particularly when one considers your statement ("Anything ... works for me") that I quoted above.

As far as keeping the thread alive by replying to it, yes we are - but let me suggest to you that the ultimate effect of that might not be exactly what you are intending - since it serves to show you, and the methods you are willing to employ in accomplishing your ends, in a true light.

In actual fact, you alone, probably do more to drive people away from you politically - as a consequence of how you conduct yourself here online - and by the manner in which you reply (or fail to) to others - you undermine your own position, moreso than anyone else could, simply by speaking against it.

In doing so, you trivialize the issues you claim to support - issues which, in and of themselves, have much merit.
 
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greg334

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I really think some of you are missing something here.

The abortion issue is a secondary issue with the congress and the president, the real issue is healthcare in general and how to manage getting control of it and the massive amount of revenue and assets.

The real issue here is the fear that doctors will have to do what they are told to do or else risk losing the ability to practice. If you ever worked with insurance companies and hospitals behind the scenes, you know what I am talking about. Even now, with Social Security programs the federal government dictates to the doctors about procedures and money.

Take that a step further under universal healthcare, you now will have the feds telling the hospital that they have quotas to fill for both diagnostic and procedures (remember this is the era of Help the Poor) and if they don’t fill those quotas, then risk having their funding cut and the bureaucrats who are in charge of the hospital will not earn points for a promotion. The madness of the system will be like what the Dutch or was it the Swedes faced a few years back. I think it was the Dutch who was euthanizing their elderly because the government told them that they could only do X amount of geriatric procedures and they could not go over their quota, but in merry old England they just let you die after sending you home with the wrong medicine.

As for the abortion issue, the people who are fighting this fight don’t get it. We have other serious issues that they should be fighting for – Kelo v. New London is far more important. If they work to change that through getting these entrenched politicians out of office (like Dingell), the other stuff will fall into place and they may see it change in their life time.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
You are right Greg, but, the ONLY way Dingell will leave is when he dies and then his son will take his place. I won't for for either, but that is how it is around here. Glad to see you again. Layoutshooter
 

letzrockexpress

Veteran Expediter
Don't even pretend to know what my stance is on these issues, because you don't. And don't even pretend to think that you know how to debate. If you care to debate, I welcome it, but it will mean debating me in your own words, not the cut-n-pasted words of others. I don't think you can formulate a clear and rational thought that is developed enough to be a part of a debate, because you must first state your position, and then use the facts and reasonings of how you reached your conclusions. No one here has ever read any evidence of you being capable of doing that.

The issue at hand here is a perfect example of my facts being actual facts, which support an irrefutable conclusion, and your facts are pure fictions, created to support an irrational conclusion.

Ditto on that.. I could cut and paste that all day long! Greg, I can't even begin to say how happy I am that you've come back, regardless how long it may be for...
 
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