Wow, so much material, where to begin?
Begin by learning... there is a lot more to this North Korean thing than the public is aware of and we are talking about journalist who went there and violated the laws of one country thinking that they are special.
I honestly think that most of it was kept secret because of the need just to keep all info in the dark.
I noticed that nobody brought up gool ole' George W. or Dickhed Chenney while they were talking about lying! You Righties like to point the finger at Lefties but never internalize. So long as you are keeping the finger pointed at the other guy you feel empowered.
OK let's bring up Bush and Cheney, why Cheney? who knows he is a vp so we can bring up the racist Biden more often than Obama?
Well OK bush lied about...... what?
Weapons of Mass Destruction?
Not, the ENTIRE WORLD Knew they existed, the intelligence is not and never will be all release and because most of the people who bring this point up don't get what Sarin is and the fact that the Army did find evidence of it means nothing to you? Oh and lets not forget the little issue that chem students at universities can produce it, so could Saddam.
Why we went to war in Iraq?
Oh there is another thing that most do not ever get, in an unstable region it actually brought stability. Do you honestly think Iran would not be having internal issues like they are without Iraq changing for the better?
The economy?
I think he actually did lie about the economy and helped cover up the biggest ponzi scheme that ever happen - the fleecing of the American tax payer. He should have been tough with Frank and Dodd, screaming about their lack of oversight and preventing the laws to be enforced. Yep I think that he screwed us just like Obama is doing the same thing.
The border?
This is another place where I think he was in denia, not really lying because most of the stuff was out in the openl. Simply put he is just like Obama or is it Obama is just like Bush? they want an open border and they want to see the Mexicans here taking our jobs. I repeat Obama wants the same thing.
Bill Clinton got his rocks off, and yes lied about it. Other than that he was among our finest, most beloved Presidents and our country experienced worldwide respect, unprecidented economic growth and gold left in the kitty.
Sure he was loved but he wasn't near the finest. He didn't bring the respect you may think he did - go ask people in Serbia and Russia and other places where promises were made and never kept. What happened in some areas of Africa where he actually cut aide?
Clinton rode to fame the coat tails of Reagan and Bush #1 when the economy finally shook off the Carter policies and started to really roll. He was the president that the economy grew during his tenure because of the tech boom and only the tech boom which was started under Reagan. We lost our momentum under Clinton when the tech bubble burst and we shifted into a housing bubble to keep things sort of going and ended up with that mess now.
We never had a surplus, it was a
Projected surplus and only a projection because you can't have a surplus with a deficit. It is used for
Propaganda.
George W. and his "Administration of Jokers", on the other hand, erroded all that away. His solution to everything was "blow it up!" He refused to talk to our enemies to provide a diplomatic solution to our problems. It cost our country worldwide respect and tons of blood and treasure yet left our country less safe worldwide.
Jokers? OK look at Obama's cabinet, just take any one of these people and look at their back ground and compare that to the person who held the seat before. Sorry but having a former crooked lawyer/firstlady/senator as a secretary of state who has nothing to do with foreign policy before seems to be more of a joke than anything else. She has little respect in the diplomatic end of things and her husband stole the show. "Here is a red button, learn how to play with it"
The need for compromise (Diplomatic Solutions) in the past was acceptable to a point (remember Chamberlain and Hitler? or better yet Hitler and Petain who actually is the best example), but today it is not at all acceptable regardless who is in the White House. The real enemies are not North Korea or Iran (
THOSE ARE WORLD PROBLEMS) but people we don't see and have one thing in mind - to Kill - you don't go to meet with them at all.
YOU KILL THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HOLD DISCUSSIONS OR THEY DON'T COMPROMISE AND THEY DON'T AGREE TO DIPLOMATIC SOLUTIONS. If Obama wants to meet with Terrorists then it shows his immaturity towards the whole subject of the people who want to kill Americans because they are Americans and also it proves that his background of knowing real domestic terrorists who killed Americans skewed his way of thinking. These domestic terrorists are the same as the people who committed murder on 9/11 and McVieg - there is no difference. SO what would you want, a president who stands firm or one that compromises with your life in the balance?
Obama is still scrubing the White House to clean up the stink left by the Bush's. And, what a mess it is! For anyone to suggest that not talking to North Korea made us more safe has been clearly delusional. Apparently, Kim Jung Il has wanted to have ongoing talks with the USA but found that good ole' George W. was incapable of carrying on a conversation!
Well you are ignorant to the fact that Obama is the same as Bush, there is little difference between the two. Scrubbing the White House is not what is going on, he is continuing a lot of Bush's policies (the Surge, Afghanistan and so on) while changing things to empower himself even more. The laughable thing is beside that all sounds like a repeat of Randy Rhodes, is the fact that who cares if he can't speak, he seems to be able to carry on a lot of conversations with people of power.
The other fact you are ignorant about is Bush stood firm on multilateral talks with North Korea (multilateral means more than one country is involved), where Obama seems to actually want to do unilateral talks with North Korea (unilateral means that only one country is involved). Bush's strategy was to involved China, a main influence with North Korea (and also Russia, Japan, South Korea and other countries) but because Obama wants to do it alone, and more importantly we don't have the credibility needed to carry on multilateral talks, we are faced with back door diplomacy as a primary method of dealing with little people of the world which is very dangerous when multilateral involvement in the open is needed. The reason we never gained the credibility is because we have the criminal tax cheat running the treasury department (there is one Obama joker for you) who happened to go over to China and told them a lie about the stability of our dollar, we lost a lot of respect from the Chinese for both Obama and our country. Now and in the future the likeliness of China helping us is diminished and this is illustrated by the fact that we again had to have unilateral talks with North Korea to gain the freedom of two other convicted criminals who happen to be journalist and viewed as more important than a common citizen of our country. The sad thing is, Kim was in control, he flipped the world off by having this photo op with Clinton on his soil and on his terms, over two journalist.
Perhaps if George W. would have gotten his rocks off on one person he wouldn't have felt the need to screw the rest of us!
Maybe if you would understand that Clinton
LIED in court Under Oath and just try to put it together that lying to the people on tv and lying in court are completely two different things. Lying in court shows that the guy lacks any integrity and can not be trusted, he lost his credibility. Bush was never in court, unless you know something that we don't?
The USA used to be the leader of the world in all matters, now we lag behind in many. We can continue down this downward spiral or we can choose to lead again. Actually, I find it incredible that any of you ever learned how to use a computer as from your postings it appears that your choice would more likely be a typewriter and carbon paper. The world has changed, but you haven't changed with it.
We are lagging behind other countries because of our congress more than our president. Our President, who ever he is can not spend a dime, can not make one law, can not start a war, can not ratify a treaty - all without congress telling him to do so. It is congress who sets the country up to fail, not the president. Even now I don't worry about Obama as much as I worry about congress and the same goes for Bush and Clinton. They lead the country but don't run it.
The other thing, all of this mess with the economy, lagging behind the world and so on is all the fault of the people who continually voting in the same idiots into congress. Unless there is a change there, there will be no positive change in the country and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
oh by the way, the more progressive people in life are the ones who take the real risks, they are the ones who left the typewriter and carbon paper a long time ago. They are the ones who don't want to step back to the dark ages in either technology or in politics. There is a lot to be said about the people who support Obama blindly, especially ones who want to return to a European Caste system which seem to be the same ones who are pro-union, pro-environmental and anti-business. It is absolutely amazing that we have people who just don't get the fact that if the country goes to a Wilsonian style government (which is what Obama is leading us to), that they won't climb the ladder of success but it will be a lot like India or England where your station in life is just where you will remain.
