Low prices are killing this month!ppl bending over like crazy!
Last September when it came time to renew my CDL, I surrendered the CDL and the endorsement and went back to a regular operator license. In the previous 5 years I'd hauled only four placardable loads. Just wasn't worth it any more.
Spent way too much money on the CDL trai ing to ever let it go. You never know what the future holds and I might end up needing it. Hate to go through all the training again. Of course, most trucking companies would probably force me to anyway. Quite a racket for CDL training.
I keep my CDL in large part because of the nice discount on my insurance. Plus, some companies require it even for CV drivers.
Well, there is annual HAZMAT training as per the FMCSA. But it's just some test questions. They may have you watch a video or two first.
I used to run into shippers all the time who required a CDL for van drivers, with a few of them requiring a HAZMAT endorsement just to enter the property. But I haven't seen one of those in at least 5 years.
One thing I have noticed in this past year with a regular operator license is, a few times when security, or usually someone else at a shipper (like a dispatcher at an LTL terminal) will ask for my CDL, and I hand them a regular driver's license, they'll give my license a very subtle, almost involuntary look of haughty derision.
Why? So you can limit the hours you have available to drive, thus limiting loads offered to you thereby messing with dispatch and your carriers customers. Why else?
Well, there is annual HAZMAT training as per the FMCSA. But it's just some test questions. They may have you watch a video or two first.
I used to run into shippers all the time who required a CDL for van drivers, with a few of them requiring a HAZMAT endorsement just to enter the property. But I haven't seen one of those in at least 5 years.
One thing I have noticed in this past year with a regular operator license is, a few times when security, or usually someone else at a shipper (like a dispatcher at an LTL terminal) will ask for my CDL, and I hand them a regular driver's license, they'll give my license a very subtle, almost involuntary look of haughty derision.
Never noticed that....and I downgraded mine as well....nothing was said by me nor other party....maybe they did and I wasn't watching for reaction tho...shrug
BUT the silliest thing I see speaking of security is......they ask me if citizen and then ask for DL as proof.....LOL...well doh...no one needs to be a citizen to get a DL....LOL
I admit that instead of a lack of an endorsement and no CDL, it could merely be that they are sneering at Kentucky in general.
could be as opposed to..."Oh never seen that one before!" as to SDI admit that instead of a lack of an endorsement and no CDL, it could merely be that they are sneering at Kentucky in general.
Or that half pint of Turtle Wax in your shirt pocket. (Think Gene Wilder and Woolite)I admit that instead of a lack of an endorsement and no CDL, it could merely be that they are sneering at Kentucky in general.
Or your shorts.
Sure seems that way.
So far it has been with the exception of the nonplacarded types. Nice rates with no hassles.
westmicher
Veteran Expediter
I respectfully disagree. The officer I spoke to was very clear that a driver cannot go back and make up logs, even to the best of his ability, without missing something. The officer was very clear that if no logs were required, they would not be required to be made up later. There is no question this actually can give an under 10,001 GVW driver some advantage over an over 10,000 GVW driver... for instance... if a van driver drives 4 hours to pick up placard ed Haz-Mat, that driving time is logged as part of the 168 hours of No Logs Required, while an over 10,000 GVW must log every driving hour as driving. The Fact is, If No Logs Required, it really is No Logs Required. Truth.
Wesmicher.
Noon pickup.
It's seven am and you're 4,hrs away.
Do you log those four hours ?
Noon pickup.
It's seven am and you're 4,hrs away.
Do you log those four hours ?
We do not disagree on that.
Don't disagree on that one either. However, once your 168 clock starts, you are in fact required to account for your time spent working for compensation regardless of what that work might be. Deadheading to pick up a load for compensation is considered performing work for compensation.
That depends. If those 4 hours are not part of a 168 clock, then logging those hours aren't required. But if you had a HAZMAT load 3 days ago, then those 4 hours have to be shown, because you're still on the clock. If you operate a CMV at any time, you are limited in the number of hours you can work in a week, regardless of how many or how few hours are actually spent driving a CMV. The regs are very explicit on that.
As an example, let's say you drive a big truck on the weekends, running a load 500 miles out on Saturday, sleeping, then running a return load on Sunday. On Monday through Friday you work 10 hour shifts at Mootster's Beauty Salon and Tractor Tire Repair as a colorist and shampoo specialist. You don't get to blow those 50 hours off as No Logs Required come Saturday morning.
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westmicher
Veteran Expediter
NO LOGS REQUIRED
westmicher
Veteran Expediter
So you are saying, whether or not there is a subsequent HAZMAT load, the driver is required to log until 7 days have expired. That isn't correct. As soon as a HAZMAT load is delivered, No Logs Are Required.
If you drop a run, NO LOGS REQUIRED, and pick up a HM load (w/o 10 hrs off) it's got to be falsification to show going into the HM load with a fresh 11/14.