Low prices are killing this month!ppl bending over like crazy!

ajakapari

Expert Expediter
People driving for 70 cent a mile how sad is that... I can't even get close to getting a load!! Wth is going on ... Time for a new gig I guess....


Say no ! To cheap freight !!!!!
 
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ajakapari

Expert Expediter
Idk man it's crazy... I bid my own and all I get is I got this much I got this much... No point of even responding... Back its rediculus


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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
In 08 rates went down and carriers never brought them back up. Many drivers were lost to being broke and it was busier for awhile I expect no different this time.. It won't be any different you all are screwed .... This is the new business model...hope you can either cut the fat, live on less or good bye... And I for one will not shed a tear at your exit.. For its just business not personal...
 

ajakapari

Expert Expediter
I rather start driving loads for free ... Then pull my pants down and have the brokers get there way... Brokers are loving it now a days they make more then the carrier+ drivers combined... Sad


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ajakapari

Expert Expediter
how was december and january for you? is this just all of the sudden?
December was alright ... January was even better I made bank .. Not a lot of driving but very very good rates ... Brokers were not complaining about it.. But this month o wow... The loads are there just not the normal prices ..


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ajakapari

Expert Expediter
Do you have any evidence to back that up?
Yes I do .. Since I watch the boards all day long... And when broker is rdy to pay me a price I am asking , just about to receive rate says " o I just got this price" half of what I am asking ...


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sjp5030

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Ajakapari
You say you watch the boards. Can anybody watch them or are they subscription?
If available what is url?
 

ajakapari

Expert Expediter
Ajakapari
You say you watch the boards. Can anybody watch them or are they subscription?
If available what is url?
U need to be a insured carrier with active MC DoT and subscribe to boards and such... Be in the Bizz for a while to start getting loads Long process .. That takes time and $$


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Turtle

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Retired Expediter
Yes I do .. Since I watch the boards all day long... And when broker is rdy to pay me a price I am asking , just about to receive rate says " o I just got this price" half of what I am asking ...
Soooo, your only evidence that brokers actually make more than the carrier and drivers combined is.... because I said so.
Got it.
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ajakapari

Expert Expediter
Soooo, your only evidence that brokers actually make more than the carrier and drivers combined is.... because I said so.
Got it.
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I am not saying it happens all the time... I don't know what proof do u need? U want me to record conversations for you? I am just telling u my 2cents from having to deal with this all day long... U can believe it or not...


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Turtle

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Retired Expediter
I am not saying it happens all the time
You didn't give it a time frame at all. You just made a flat statement that said the brokers are making more than the carriers and drivers combined. Could be once, could be all the time, could be anywhere in between. You also said, ". Brokers are loving it now a days..." so I have to assume that it's more than just one broker and it's happened on more than one day for those it's happened to. So let's go with "now a days" to mean since January 1, and let's go with "brokers are loving it" to mean 3 or more brokers who are loving it.

I don't know what proof do u need?
Anything that shows the broker made more on a load than did the carrier and the driver combined.

U want me to record conversations for you?
Yes, that would be great. Thank you. :D
 

BIGTRAIN

Expert Expediter
Owner/Operator
Geez Turtle ......drop it already .......do you ALWAYS ( and by ALWAYS , do I mean really ALWAYS , or since January 1st ALWAYS , or part of the time ALWAYS ) have to have the last word ? Your inabilty to just say nothing sometimes gets annoying . Just a veteran expediter that's relatively new here's observation.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I think brokers are a lot like us...some loads they make more money then on other loads...depends on the customer and here is the kicker I believe....how many brokers before them have taken their piece of the pie....brokers/logistic specialists, and carriers...are you referring to a carrier brokerage or something of a ch robinson type broker.......I am amazed since 08 and the big cutbacks..our rates never went back up BUT there was room to create another layer of brokerage in the name of 4pls...just amazing
 
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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
People driving for 70 cent a mile how sad is that... I can't even get close to getting a load!! Wth is going on ... Time for a new gig I guess....


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you MUST be a new guy...... 70 cents has been here since 2008 the year this business went "poof" many had a flat rate of .70 you just didn't see it as much because FSC was like .30-45 cents some even higher giving the illusion of a higher rate NOW FSC is almost gone exposing the real linehaul rates...
 
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