I dunno what HIS boots feel like Hawk. But if he's allowed his truck costs (an feeding the family ain't truck costs) to exceed what the revenue will support, he be have a problem. Simple! Y'all still will always have to get away from the employee mentality (even when yer an illustrious carrier). Seems most don't have a clue what it REALLY costs em to run a mile. There prolly is still good money to be made out there, jes not as easy as they'd like. It don't work that way now, an never has.