Libby, posible pardon?

[tallcal101]

I should never post after 2 beers,I know this and do it anyway.I would agree that name calling is probably not a plus,but after all,we are all grownups,and Leo regularly calls Clinton a rapist!Now thats a pretty serious slander.Please don't confuse my comparisons with my point however.It all goes back to the manipulation of the facts that were being presented to us to justify the ivasion of Iraq.
The disinformation about yellow cake in Africa was just one more piece of a protracted plot to mislead.The eventual outing of Ms. Planes,and the subsiquent investigation was not a pretty thing.It was clear and simply further evidence of this admisistratios willingness to operate above the law.The Repubulicans seem to have a thing about this,as evidenced in the last 4 Republican adminsitrations.The law is for the common people,not those in charge.It is regretful that the only thing close to an apology is the heartfelt condolence's to Scooter Bugs family from the VEEP and W.Perhaps there was wronging?Not on your life!
The message rings loud and clear to the people however,and they hold the keys to the next election.
By the way,how about that Newt chasing the girls!There go's his chance to be elected to anyting other then dog catcher.Too bad,he's a bright guy.

 

[arkjarhead]

tallcal,
i guess you think john kerry could have done a much better job. yes i did vote for bush, and if i had to do it all over again i would. mainly because i don't think that douche bag kerry would have done any better. plus i think kerry has sugar in his tank.

 

[vandecamp]

Tallcal, the yellow cake debacle was indeed a cheap ruse, I agree, (oof, I said it, yes.) But downplaying the exposure of a government agent is criminal, and nothing but.
And what the effe is up with the continual criminal association of Clinton with a sexual encounter? It wasn't the sex, mate!! It was the LYING UNDER OATH TO CONGRESS!! Who gives a frickin eff about some porky cretin getting splashed with DNA, that was NOT the issue!!
Riches under Clinton????? Pack another bowl with that second beer, brother, it was Reaganomics that got you rockin'. The same thing that allows you to enjoy what you have today.
Let's remember something too, Bush and Clinton shared something in common, they both had e for INTEL. Clinton abolished well established HUMINTEL assets during his world order tenure, that couldn't help but minimize the quality of GW2's initial intel. We all agree, the intel used for the post 9/11 strategies was flawed at best. You sir, getting bad info from one of your subordinates makes you an idiot I presume?? Gore '08!!

 

[Pilgrim]

"This guy was no Clinton.He has always been a fool with nothing to say.He filled his administration with phonies,fired those who went against him,and has destroyed all that Clinton did to make us rich,proud and have respect for ourselves and the respect of the world."

Let's try changing a couple of words and behold the underlying truth:

This guy was no Reagan. He has always been a fool with nothing to say. He filled his administration with phonies, fired those who went against him, and has destroyed all that Reagan did to make us rich, proud and have respect for ourselves and the respect of the world.

'Nuff said.

 

[Crazynuff]

They showed a couple of jurors from Libby's trial on tv and they said they thought he should be pardoned .

 

[greg334]

Well what I guess is the issue is this, why should he get a pardon when others more well deserving should?

As I said before, the two BCP officers should be pardoned first now and the excuse I keep hearing is that the president needs to review their case before hand to make a determiniation if he can indeed pardon them.

But I got to point out something, I am against terrorism of any kind but at the same time I would like to see Puerto Rico spun off and become a country so want you all to know that Clinton pardoned 16 terrorist from FALN, a terrorist group from Puerto Rico. It appears that Clinton supports domestic terrorism? He also commuted the sentence of a child preditor Melvin J. Reynolds and pardoned Henry Cisneros.

 

[vandecamp]

Right on Greg and Pilgrim. Let's not forget Marc Rich. Bloody hoodlums.

 

[Dog_House2691]

All you Dems on this site should take the feeding tube out and wake up...the Democratic Party is no more,they are trying to kill us here in the US. like they have in Somalia...Darfour and other Countrys around the world.They dont care about our Safety...they care about Politics.

 

[greg334]

OHHHHHH Somalia. If you all want to know how we (the public) got screwed there, I can tell you from a non-military point of view - Thank you very much BILLY boy.

 

[tallcal101]

Nice try dude.Lying under oath?For the hundreds of millions spent for a special prosocuter,to come up with a stain?Your in another world pal,another world.Sometimes it seems like you get it,then you drift into the ozone.Too bad.
If a special prosocuter were on duty for the last 6 years,do you have any clue(I doubt it)how many high crimes and flat ##### lies this administration (and W in paticular) would have found?:ANY IDEA MATE?
With regards to Raygunnomics,that is the biggest myth since the Iran Contra.Lies and smoke and mirrors best described that era.
The run on the savings and loans that decried the end of an entire industry was that legacy.Raygun was a joke,as Govenor of California and then as President.His era was pockmarked by exploitation,corrupt military idiots,drug smuggling to promote puppet governments and then a final "loss of memory".
There's lying and then theres lying.3000 dead and counting for manufacturing eveidence of "poison factory trucks"that poor Powell was made the fall guy for presenting to the world.This was the kind of S*** Raygun would have thought up.It took a real bright guy to come up with that one.I wonder which of the three stooges came up with that wity idea.
It's a charade that can't be compared to anything in my life time.And guess what,everybody but the denial freaks know it.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Reaganomics were the biggest myth since Iran-Contra? Whew! Glad it wasn't as big a myth as Global Warming! Then we'd be in trouble!

Reagan was a joke cause you disagreed with him. Bush is a bigger joke because he laughs at you and ppl like you (and me). But for everything you say about those WMDs, the ppl who now lead congress SIGNED OFF ON IT! Now, they don't want to look like buffoons, so they want their votes back. Every law or rule or courtesy W breaks, I can find at least one the Dems break. Just to make it fair, I could also find one the Repubs break. And, I could find a dozen the UN breaks. If we're gonna clean laundry here, let's clean EVERYONE'S laundry!

-Vampire Super Slooth Trucker!!!

 

[vandecamp]

FLASH!! FLASH!! NEW YORK TIMES SMASHES GORE'S GLOBAL WARMING AS BS!!
Wow, never thought I would see it, the times calling Gore an irrelevant alarmist. THE NY TIMES!!!

 

[vandecamp]

Doggone it Tallcal, like I said, you think it's all about the juicy dress. Pull your head out, you wish it was THAT simple, but it's not.
One more time- WHAT IS OK WITH LYING TO CONGRESS? ANSWER THE EFFING QUESTION!! IF BUSH is such a criminal why the hell isn't your tw#t Pelosi screaming for his IMPEACHMENT on irrefutable grounds????REAGONOMICS- the key to YOUR wealth TODAY. LOVE IT!! EMBRACE IT!!

SORRY you wish it wasn't so. You can't have it both ways, love the life, hate the enabler.
Beauty of things- BUSH patterned things today after Reagonomics,that's why things are still pretty darn good. How's YOUR bank account? WILLY had nothing to do with it. He rode the afterswell. Check financial trends in history, it's not my opinion, it's history brother, There is always a lag in the actions of the administration. Typical, Typical, Typical. You bash, you smash , but you offer NOTHING when asked what you would do. Tanks for nuttin.

 

[greg334]

vandecamp I find most of this economic issue absolutly mindbogeling. I mean people, many who have been educated in such things as liberal arts, have no clue what the trickle-down theory is all about and where the roots for the theory actually comes from. What I find really disturbing is the fact that back in the early 60's, there was this guy who spoke at the Economic Club of New York.

Here is what he said;
"But the most direct and significant kind of federal action aiding economic growth is to make possible an increase in private consumption and investment demand — to cut the fetters which hold back private spending. In the past, this could be done in part by the increased use of credit and monetary tools, but our balance of payments situation today places limits on our use of those tools for expansion. It could also be done by increasing federal expenditures more rapidly than necessary, but such a course would soon demoralize both the government and our economy. If government is to retain the confidence of the people, it must not spend more than can be justified on grounds of national need or spent with maximum efficiency. And I shall say more on this in a moment.

The final and best means of strengthening demand among consumers and business is to reduce the burden on private income and the deterrents to private initiative which are imposed by our present tax system — and this administration pledged itself last summer to an across-the-board, top-to-bottom cut in personal and corporate income taxes to be enacted and become effective in 1963"

WOW a tax cut to simulate the economy, who would have thought?

Just to remind liberals that the guy was their beloved JFK and he set the economy up for growth that has not ever been matched since and stopped by increasing taxes. This was the model of trickle-down economics by the way.

Oh if you want to read or actually listen to his own words, here is the link;

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jfkeconomicclubaddress.html

I would actually recommend that when people take to task reagan or bush for their tax cuts to take a economics history class atr Havard or some other IV school.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Where'd you find that? I'd love nothing more than to read the liberal news of the day calling Algore a fraud!

-Vampire Super Slooth Trucker!!!

 

[cheri1122]

Guys: this is getting out of control here. Please take a deep breath, or a chill pill, whatever, and remember that we're just debating viewpoints here, and we can do that like grownups, with civility, no?
Play nice, now, or shut up, ok? Don't make me call out the flying monkeys...

 

[vandecamp]

Greg, absolutely spot on, mate. Just curious, where did you pull up that quote from ol' John? I am an ignorant azz. I forgot to give credit where it is due. GW1, RR and GW2 all patterned their economic reform after one of the most famous dems of all- J Effin K.

Thank You.

 

[tallcal101]

And heads continue to roll..........its becoming a daily wonderlust of lies and contorting Republicans .........how they contort and make excuse's for their devious ways.....Yea,it is a continuation of Rayguns policies,you hit right on the head.It's really getting fun,and funny!!!!

 

[greg334]

Come on Tallcal, Who are you talking about?

 

[tallcal101]

It's probably not on Fox,so you will have to read a liberal newspaper to find out..He works for A Gonzales(an invader)