I Like This Doctor!!

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Veteran Expediter
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This bill is going to greatly lower the standard of health care in this country. It will reduce access and will cause a marked decrease in the numbers of doctors and health care outlets. I sure hope all you who like this bill are happy with these results. Just wait, the cost is going to skyrocket. This bill is NOT going to lower costs one bit.
 

Humble2drive

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I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, and come to think of it, I didn't stay at the hotel chain that makes you smarter the next day. I don't know the details of the Florida law you're citing, but in an interview, the doctor said he's not interrogating patients over their votes, and he wouldn't actually turn one away even if he found out they voted for Karl Marx Jr. aka Obama. .

I too am not a lawyer; therefore, I am basing my opinion on the advice given to me by one.

The laws regarding patient abandoment (like most laws) are open to interpretation by a court of law. That is why it has become the recommended protocol to release a patient by providing at least:

1) Proper written notice.
2) Stabilization of their condition.
3) At least 3 referrals to other Physicians that the patient may seek treatment from.

Courts tend to favor the patient's side and could easily be persuaded to interpret the written notice on the door as creating a "hostile" environment. Especially by a democratic judge.;)

That said, there are many laws in this country that are in opposition to freedom, and if the law in Florida is as you say it is, then that's one of them. This is, er, used to be a free country, remember? If the doctor treats a patient once, is he then their slave, required to treat them after that? There are certainly other doctors in town. Now, if he turned a patient away and THEN refused to even fax their records over to the new doctor, I guess I'd have a moral/ethical problem with that.

Agreed. There are way way too many laws which make the term "free country" questionable. :(

In my opinion:

Injecting politics into your professional interaction with the people you serve leads to a slippery slope.

* A Republican minister that tells Democratics to find God elsewhere?
* A Democatic teacher that tells Republican students to be educated elsewhere?
Where should it stop??

And have those of you that support this Doctors approach called into dispatch and told them that you do not wish to carry freight for anyone who voted for Obama?

Just sayin.:rolleyes:
 

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Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
If using force to insure Obama care is just Okee Dokee then that doctor can do anything that he wants. An ethical program that inhanced freedom, improved access to health care, lowered the costs and improved choices would not require the use of force to implement.

The government is way out of line on this issue. They need controlled and if it takes this type of action, so be it. This type of action is far better than what the left uses. Far fewer will die.
 

AMonger

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This bill is going to greatly lower the standard of health care in this country. It will reduce access and will cause a marked decrease in the numbers of doctors and health care outlets. I sure hope all you who like this bill are happy with these results. Just wait, the cost is going to skyrocket. This bill is NOT going to lower costs one bit.

That's the point. Destroy the system so in a few years, it's so irretrievably broken that Congress, with the support of the leech class of society, throws up their hands and says the whole thing has to be nationalized with a single payer controlling everything.

THAT'S THE PLAN.
 

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That's the point. Destroy the system so in a few years, it's so irretrievably broken that Congress, with the support of the leech class of society, throws up their hands and says the whole thing has to be nationalized with a single payer controlling everything.

THAT'S THE PLAN.


I am well aware of what this scumbag government is doing. As I always say, it is 100% OUR fault. We allow it to go on. We, as a people, have not controlled the government as we should. So many this days are happy to allow themselves to be ruled and controlled.

You know what they say, and it is true, leeches just suck!!
 

Humble2drive

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. . . I sure hope all you who like this bill are happy with these results . . .

I am having trouble finding ANYONE who is happy with this bill, much less anyone who understands it.

Some are happy with certain elements of the plan (ex: pre-existing condition coverage) but nobody including the Axx clowns who passed it knows what the ultimate cluster will be in the end.

The innocent well intentioned idealists among us voted for positive change after staring blankly into the TV screens and believing all they were told.

This vote for change unleashed a freight train of legislation that this country will be unraveling for a long time.

We live in a media controlled society that is here to stay. The media elected this President; however, they seem unable to spin this healthcare bill in a convincing way.

For this reason, the door has been opened for Republican victories and a shift in power in Congress soon.

Stay tuned to your local media outlet for further direction.:rolleyes:
 

AMonger

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For this reason, the door has been opened for Republican victories and a shift in power in Congress soon.

Stay tuned to your local media outlet for further direction.:rolleyes:

Now if only there was more than a nickel's worth of difference between them, that might be good news. They're all collectivists in both parties now, and everything from progressivism through Marxism is but a stop on the same progressive spectrum. Reference the "how fast do you want to be driven off the cliff" analogy.
 

RLENT

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Now if only there was more than a nickel's worth of difference between them, that might be good news. They're all collectivists in both parties now, and everything from progressivism through Marxism is but a stop on the same progressive spectrum. Reference the "how fast do you want to be driven off the cliff" analogy.
........ Bingo !
 

AMonger

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That is exactly I call them Dumb-O-Crats and ReBumLiCans!! They all suck!! Vote the BUMS out!!!

ReDumblicans is fine for the GOP, but after three things happened, I call the other clowns Demon-crats. Those three things were:
--Gore's attempted theft of the 2000 election;
--the demon-crats' turning the funeral of Sen. Wellstone into a political pep rally;
--and judge-shopping for judge who would let them break the law by replacing Sen. Toricelli on the ballot, well after the legal deadline had passed, in his NJ re-election bid years ago when he was sure to lose.

After those three things, I realized the only name for them was demon-crat. Pure political evil.
 

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To be replaced with.......?


Honest men and women who live lives of honor and integrity? Strange concept I know. Men and women who respect our Constitution and would put that ABOVE their own power and gain? Call that party/group/bunch of people anything you like, makes no difference, that is the kind of government that we need. We have what we deserve as a people. We got what we voted for, the same ole stuff!!
 

LDB

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To be replaced with.......?

I periodically get asked why I'm washing my vehicle at a given time when it's supposed to rain the next day or two. I reply I'm getting ready to have fresh dirt. I'd say that's the answer to this query as well, fresh bums.
 

AMonger

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Honest men and women who live lives of honor and integrity? Strange concept I know. Men and women who respect our Constitution and would put that ABOVE their own power and gain? Call that party/group/bunch of people anything you like, makes no difference, that is the kind of government that we need. We have what we deserve as a people. We got what we voted for, the same ole stuff!!

And who might these strange creatures be? I only know of one of those in Washington, and he's not going to get elected. So you got some names to go along with that?
 

greg334

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I can't seem to think of one person in politics who can stand up to any real honest standard and who is actually worth the effort to promote and vote for.

What we need is someone who can be like Washington, or for that matter a Bobby Jones.

What I mean it simply the power and greed that they obtain while gaining a seat in politics seems to change the person and I don't see many outside of politics who can say "I will do this for X amount of time" and actually leave. The city councils and boards are perfect examples of people being arrogant and power hungry. Most get this great idea that they are now a god of sorts, and don't want to give it up unless they are forced out of it.

Just the issues, there is no one person that stands on one issue or a couple issues but they seem to have to address all of the mainstream issues. The repubs and dems and even the libertarians are about the same and offer no real solid solutions between all of them.

As one person once described voting in the 1912 election, it is like the people are voting in a vacuum because no one person can stick to one idea and only one idea and as it seems the two worst people ending up in the race, with the worst of the two winning. In this case, I am glad McCain didn't win, but on the other hand I think the dems did themselves a disservice by using everything they got to get Obama elected.

RIGHT now if the repubs regroup (don't laugh it's a thought), and only stick to two issues - security and the JOBS - they can win easily but because they are like chaff cast into the wind, they will not have the gains they think they can achieve - yep I'm hopeful but doubtful.
 

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And who might these strange creatures be? I only know of one of those in Washington, and he's not going to get elected. So you got some names to go along with that?


Bobby Inman, Jerry Curry. Too old for President but would make great reps from their states. No one that I know of from Michigan.

People like that are reluctant to run because of our media and press corps. That bunch would do everything in their power to destroy people of honor. They do now.
 

AMonger

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RIGHT now if the repubs regroup (don't laugh it's a thought), and only stick to two issues - security and the JOBS - they can win easily but because they are like chaff cast into the wind, they will not have the gains they think they can achieve - yep I'm hopeful but doubtful.

A lot of us wouldn't vote for that. Our job and security situations are only symptoms of broader policies. Addressing those becomes a much larger issue fundamentally changing what our country has become over the last 50+ years.

Why are jobs scarce? Because we as a country have done everything we could over the last 50 years to chase business away, law after law. What kind of masochist would open a manufacturing plant of any size in America today? He'd have to be crazy. Nobody wants to have to hire an extra team of bookkeepers and lawyers to ensure compliance with all the laws and keep them from being fined back to the stone age because they didn't fill out a form or two, or they filled in a little ditch on their own property that's home to some obscure bacteria, or make sure they comply with the ADA or that they hire the right number of this and that group.

The number of laws that would have to be repealed, well, I don't know what that number is, but it's a LOT, and there are multiple interests that will fight to prevent the repeal of every one of them. So there's no way to say "Vote for So-and-so, and the jobs will return."

For me, the main issues are 1) the rule of law, that it applies equally in all respects from the bum on the street all the way up to the bloated senators having their three martini lunches, and the executive branch; 2) the Bill of Rights, that it's restored in its entirety without exception and treated as the supreme law of the land that it is, with criminal penalties for violating it; 3) that special interests such as the greenies are denied the ability to drag us back to the times of our great-great-great grandparents, using horses and buggies and washing our clothes on washboards; 4) that the tentacles of government are peeled back from everywhere they don't belong, which is almost everywhere; 5) that the militarization of the local police is halted and reversed; 6) that every bill in congress in treated as a single issue without amendments, riders, earmarks, or any other alteration; 7) that all laws enabling one person to live at the expense of other persons are abolished; and 8) term limits.

I once read a commentary that said that if government would obey just 2 of the ten commandments, just 2, the vast majority of the country's problems would go away. Those 2 are the prohibitions on murder and theft. Likewise, if my points above were implemented, we'd still have problems, but you'd be surprised how livable the country became.
 

layoutshooter

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Amen, Brother, Amen!!

We have our own "ten commandments" in this country. They are called the Bill of Rights. They should reign supreme in our government.

Every law that is passed, besides having to pass Constitutional muster, should answer the following questions: Does this law enhance personal freedom? Does this law improve the financial lot of the working man? Does this law decrease government control over the People? If the answer to all of these questions is not always yes, that bill should be scraped.
 

mjolnir131

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..... somebody else ..... :D

For years i would say anybody else because we can't get any worse and yet somehow we always managed to find worse to elect.

Honest will not work yet anyway to many people equate honest with being mean. Yes it's a very child like view of the world but that is what mainly fills our present electorate voters
 
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