Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Oh yeah....is this the same Ann Coulter that said this,
So you're defending Waters, McKinney, and Conyers? Do you have a clue what you're saying?
Oh yeah....is this the same Ann Coulter that said this,
exactly it takes all the republican party is just made up of a bunch of red neck racist card right out of the picture.Think about it not that any of them would even care but what about the last two plus year of the TEA PARTY is all racist.Gone see you later.Maybe he would lose to Obama, maybe he wouldn't. But IF Cain ran on the Republican ticket, there goes the idea that blacks are automatic Democrats, and Republicans are "masters of the plantation" bs. They're afraid of his message... a black man's message to other blacks that you CAN rise above, regardless of what the Dems tell you; and you don't need the government to do it!
Why should she look into the Republican party for a scandal? She'd be stepping on the toes of the MSM looking for the same thing. By looking at the Dems, she's all alone.
Ann Coulter, IMO, is a decent investigative reporter. The rest of the media either dropped the ball by not figuring this out, or just tossed it in the garbage, cause it didn't fit their agendas.
It is true!!Think about it we did even see it in 08 only it was with Palin and her unwed teenage daughter haveing a kid not McCain.It was palin who people flocked to on the republican ticket not McCain.In every race Obama has ever been in who ever he was running against had a scandel.Yes yes Obama said the kids are of limits end of story.But the story was already out there so why not say that.Also why was he only asked about it a couple of times.Why did the press not push him for his thoughts?Witness what is your opinion of the Ann Coulter article? If this is true it is very daming of Obama and Axelrod.
Attacking the messenger when you can't defend the message??
Just sayin'........
Any decent investigative reporter could come up with these allegations Dont think so.Judges do not take kindly to reporters Ignoring their orders when they SEAL a case.Will not unless you got the right connectionsWhy on God's green Earth would anyone in the Obama administration not want to see Cain as the Republican nominee?
Ann Coulter should be looking into those in the Republican party for a scandal if she want's one.
Again, nobody cares if he is innocent or not, the story is how he has handled the situation. Why does anyone think that this was leaked by anyone? Any decent investigative reporter could come up with these allegations.
Now thats funny right there.You know what? Upon further review, I agree, I think that this whole scandal has been perpetrated by the Obama administration. They knew this would make Cain look like a victim and would help him in the polls as well as campaign donations so that he will eventually become the nominee.
Looks like 'the Herminator' [gag] got his professional spinmeister working, because everyone's talking about things other than what matters: Cain's response to unsettling & unwelcome news. [I'm thinking every potential candidate should be sandbagged during their campaign - it reveals a lot we wouldn't see otherwise.]
How the info was found doesn't matter. If Obama and whatshisname should be looked at closer, then do it - but that's a separate issue, it doesn't make any difference to Cain's campaign.
Bialek doesn't matter [just having the white female version of Jesse Jackson as her attorney tells us that.]
The truth or fabrication of the allegations made years ago doesn't matter - we will never know the truth anyhow. [And you can't fault the women who choose to remain unidentified, either. Reading the comments about a "bimbo eruption", I'd decline to be known as the bimbo du jour, too.]
What matters is how Mr Cain handles himself in a tough spot, and he failed BIG TIME.
Reading the link RLENT posted, I'm even more convinced that Mr Cain is just another bad news for the people candidate that frequently wants to run the country, but couldn't even run their 'business' well. [Meaning the energy company]
I still don't think a businessperson as an ideal candidate anyhow, because the government id NOT a 'for profit' institution, and shouldn't be run like one, either.
Hey! Cheri's back! And look at that... she skimmed past the new stuff, about the "bimbos" all being from Obamaland.
What I read, only the latest accuser [Bialek] is linked to Axelrod, and I already said she doesn't matter, because she had nothing to say years ago, before Cain was famous.
If Axelrod is 'helping' Obama, that should be brought to light - but it doesn't change the main issue- Cain's response to this little problem.
Did you read the link RLENT provided? I'd have some tough questions about Cain's 'business sense' as well.
Stick a fork in him, like I said days ago.
I agree about the businessman not being a good president tho. He'd have to be used to spending more than he's taking in; and a businessman wouldn't be in business very long if he did that. If he were alive, we could get Enron's old CEO. He would make a much better president.
My point was serious: the government is not, and was never intended to be, a for-profit business - so why should a potential POTUS be superior for having business skills?
I'd think critical thinking [which Cain didn't demonstrate then, at the energy company, or now, with his little 'image problem'] and diplomacy and foreign affairs knowledge would all be more important.....
If you don't like the term 'Herminator' why use it, why intentionally gag yourself? You complain about not answering professionally (What ever that means) so he brings in help and you don't like that either.Looks like 'the Herminator' [gag] got his professional spinmeister working,
Yep the credibility of the accusations.because everyone's talking about things other than what matters:
Yep lie about Cain and he should come clean and just admit to the lies in a contrite way.Cain's response to unsettling & unwelcome news.
Where have you been? The media regularly attempts to 'sandbag' the candidates especially if they don't like their political view.[I'm thinking every potential candidate should be sandbagged during their campaign - it reveals a lot we wouldn't see otherwise.]
First we don't know if it is information. It might just be a huge lie. I don't know, do you?How the info was found doesn't matter.
People are looking into it, that's what the Ann Coulter article was about.If Obama and whatshisname should be looked at closer, then do it
No it is the reason for the issue.but that's a separate issue,
So you don't like the way Cain responded to the lies, I guess that means his response's were not as polished and forth coming as say, Bill Clinton. Don't know about you but I would rather have an honest answer as opposed to a slick feel good lie.it doesn't make any difference to Cain's campaign.
And David Axelrod and Obama thank-you.Bialek doesn't matter [just having the white female version of Jesse Jackson as her attorney tells us that.]
The truth or fabrication of the allegations made years ago doesn't matter
Well it's nice to see we can agree on something.- we will never know the truth anyhow.
Had they either came forward and stated facts, or stayed silent you're correct, at this point they look like gold diggers.[And you can't fault the women who choose to remain unidentified, either. Reading the comments about a "bimbo eruption", I'd decline to be known as the bimbo du jour, too.]
Luckily just in your eyes (and the right leaning media)What matters is how Mr Cain handles himself in a tough spot, and he failed BIG TIME.
You read and believe a story from 'Mother Jones' and completely buy into 'the evil Herman Cain" theory, but completely blow off a story that would show that he might have been setup. (priceless) Do you even know what Cain's involvement was with that company? He was on the board of directors. Do you know what that typically means?Reading the link RLENT posted, I'm even more convinced that Mr Cain is just another bad news for the people candidate that frequently wants to run the country, but couldn't even run their 'business' well. [Meaning the energy company]
Well we know that career politicians don't work.I still don't think a businessperson as an ideal candidate anyhow, because the government id NOT a 'for profit' institution, and shouldn't be run like one, either.
I read the article, knowing that you typically do research prior to posting stuff, a few questions.Another little bit of historical record that Uncle Herman seems to want to fail to ....... remember ..... if he remembers ....
He fails to mention it as part of his business "experience" (gee, I wonder why?)
Another Thing Herman Probably Doesn't Want To Talk About
If you don't like the term 'Herminator' why use it, why intentionally gag yourself?
Because it says so much about how he views himself.
You complain about not answering professionally (What ever that means)
I said nothing about professionally - I wasn't impressed by the number of times he changed his story before abruptly and arrogantly declaring he would no longer answer questions about it.
so he brings in help and you don't like that either.
I'm not impressed by misdirection, [getting hung up on details that don't matter, while the main question is ignored]
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Yep the credibility of the accusations. Yep lie about Cain and he should come clean and just admit to the lies in a contrite way.
At this point, the credibility of the accusations is a moot point [though there's some evidence that he considers himself as waaay more 'charming' than he appears to others]. We'll never know whether the women lied or not, and that's not the issue at all.
Where have you been? The media regularly attempts to 'sandbag' the candidates especially if they don't like their political view.
Since none of them reacted as Cain has, it didn't make much of an impression, I guess.
First we don't know if it is information. It might just be a huge lie. I don't know, do you?
What lie? That he was accused of sexual harassment and the case was settled is a fact - whether the accusations were merited is unimportant. What matters is how Cain reacted to the questions about it.
People are looking into it, that's what the Ann Coulter article was about. No it is the reason for the issue.So you don't like the way Cain responded to the lies, I guess that means his response's were not as polished and forth coming as say, Bill Clinton. Don't know about you but I would rather have an honest answer as opposed to a slick feel good lie.
I'd like an honest answer too, which is why his changing the story numerous times before refusing to talk about it any more [as if!] is such a problem: he's hiding something, is what it looks like.
And David Axelrod and Obama thank-you. Well it's nice to see we can agree on something. Had they either came forward and stated facts, or stayed silent you're correct, at this point they look like gold diggers.
Bialek: no question. But there are 3 others, who spoke up years ago, before he was a candidate. They may have been opportunists too, but when a group of successful businessmen [in an industry where success is hard to come by] agrees to pay a year's salary to settle a complaint, I have to think there was some merit to it - just sayin.
Luckily just in your eyes (and the right leaning media)
You read and believe a story from 'Mother Jones'
I believe what can be proven - what the story said is a matter of public record, no matter who reports it.
and completely buy into 'the evil Herman Cain" theory,
Evil? No, not even close. Just a little too arrogant & conceited, with too little reason, IMO.
but completely blow off a story that would show that he might have been setup.
Set up by who - Axelrod? Only if I believed that Bialek was truthful & that what she says matters at all, but I don't, and I've said so from the beginning. Do you think Axelrod is responsible for the first 3 complaints, lodged years before Cain was a potential competitor to Obama?
(priceless) Do you even know what Cain's involvement was with that company? He was on the board of directors. Do you know what that typically means?
Don't know if it's typical, but according to the lawsuit, Cain chaired the board's compensation committee, which had direct oversight of the push to get employees to invest in more & more Aquila [company] stock. 60% of the employees retirement fund consisted of Aquila stock - a figure financial experts say should never exceed 10-20%.
He doled out $30 million in bonuses to 5 executives in 02, [while the stock was plummeting], and just a month later, 500 employees were laid off. The loss to employees holding company stoock had reached hundreds of millions of dollars, and many lost from 70-90% of their retirement savings. While the execs got millions in bonuses - see anything wrong with that? Does the name ENRON ring a bell?
All the above is public record, and Cain's campaign has not replied to a request for comment. I wonder why....
Well we know that career politicians don't work.
It might be better if many 'business executives' didn't either, seeing how much of what they do is sneaky self serving tactics to pile up personal wealth at the expense of the folks who actually do work for a living, and Cain is right up there with them.
I read the article, knowing that you typically do research prior to posting stuff, a few questions.
What was Cain's day to day involvement with the company?
According to the courts findings was Cain found guilty or at fault for any of this?
As an outside Corporate Director, he likely had no day to day involvement (he did have some involvement however, even if not day to day)I read the article, knowing that you typically do research prior to posting stuff, a few questions.
What was Cain's day to day involvement with the company?
Was OJ Simpson convicted of murder ?According to the courts findings was Cain found guilty or at fault for any of this?
That's certain a possible (even likely) motivation ......It stands to reason that if someone, anyone disclosed the information that it was more than likely done in an attempt to destroy someone's career.
Oh Boobie ...... I would have thought that you might have learned a thing or two during your brief stint as a "Wiki editor" ....Well here is What I took out of the story.
Bubbie,This one explains a few things
5 Reasons Why Herman Cain Would Make a Bad President | Ron Paul 2012 | Sound Money, Peace and Liberty
Who hands out those Real Men of Genius merit badges and do you get a free case of Budwieser with that?