Troops to the Border

Poorboy

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Your President, "Not Mine" Who was reportedly doing A Good Job in another Thread has sent an Overwhelming amount of Troops to Our Mexican Border(A Whole 1200 Of Them) <Snort> when in Actuality according to Senator Johm McCain the Real Sensible Number should have Been atleast 6000! Does Obumma Really Think that 1200 Troops is going to Make a Difference? What a Charade :rolleyes:
 

Rhodes101

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1,200 new faces can't actuality hurt. Where did Johm get the 6,000 figure from? Also be careful about using Turtle's trademarked <snort>, hate to see anyone get sued.
 

Poorboy

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1,200 new faces can't actuality hurt. Where did Johm get the 6,000 figure from? Also be careful about using Turtle's trademarked <snort>, hate to see anyone get sued.

I don't know where John got those figures from, All I Know is that he was on I Believe it was the Senate Floor when he brought it up!
Yeah, I Guess the <Snort> is a Turtle Trade Mark and Shouldn't be Infringed on! My Apologies to Turtle :D
 

Turtle

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I didn't invent the <snort>
Anybody can use it.
When used properly, it is a very effective communications tool. <snort>
 

teamjdw

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I heard 1200 gaurds = 1 gaurd for every 6 miles,6000 would be 1 for every mile.Why not dig a moat along the boarder,fill with alligators!
 

LDB

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Retired Expediter
There should be about 36,000 full time to provide enough to rotate shifts 24/7/365 with orders to shoot anyone in the neutral zone, that being a 150 yard wide segment from the border. Signs should be posted and in the areas most frequented perhaps even play looped tapes announcing that is a restricted area with orders to shoot.
 

chefdennis

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barry has got to keep the Mexican President happy....:rolleyes:

US troops won't be used to stop illegal immigration: US

May 26 03:50 PM US/Eastern

US troops won't be used to stop illegal immigration: US


US National Guard troops being sent to the Mexican border will be used to stem the flow of guns and drugs across the frontier and not to enforce US immigration laws, the State Department said Wednesday.

The clarification came after the Mexican government urged Washington not to use the additional troops to go after illegal immigrants.

President Barack Obama on Tuesday authorized the deployment of up to 1,200 additional troops to border areas but State Department spokesman Philip Crowley told reporters, "It's not about immigration."

He said the move was "fully consistent with our efforts to do our part to stem, you know, violence, to interdict the flow of dangerous people and dangerous goods -- drugs, guns, people."

He said the extra troops would be used to free up civilians engaged in support functions so that law enforcement personnel can be increased along the 2,000-mile-long (3,200 kilometer) border.

Nearly 13 million Mexicans live in the United States, more than half of them illegally.

"We have explained the president's announcement to the government of Mexico, and they fully understand the rationale behind it," Crowley said.

Obama's announcement came less than a week after a state visit to Washington by Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who asked for greater US backing for a bloody three-year-old war on drug cartels.

Drug violence has claimed the lives of nearly 23,000 people over the past three years.
 
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greg334

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Well according to the WH, the troops are there to help stop the flow of guns and money into Mexico.

I don't agree with using our troops to do their job. It wouldn't be an issue if the government of Mexico wasn't supporting the people invading into our country. When has Calderon been proactive in stopping corruption and graft? He hasn't but he and his country have become dependent on the illegal activities of others, including the drug cartels, to bring money into the country.

Now it's a problem?

We can stop the flow of money easily, by not allowing the Banks and places like Western Union to make money transfers to Mexico.

That's a good start.

Then we can enforce our laws here, by enforcing the ID laws when people open bank accounts. This is a real problem, I have to produce an SS card and other ID while they don't.

Start with confiscating the money that is in the banks through the illegal activities of these invaders. stop them from sending that money back home.
 

Pilgrim

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"The clarification came after the Mexican government urged Washington not to use the additional troops to go after illegal immigrants."

Barack Hussein Obama - what a statesman; he really knows how to stand up for his country. Or should I say, the country of which he is president? Wonder what the cost for an extra 1200 paper shufflers at the border will be? Hopefully, they won't inconvenience any of the illegals as they pass through.

Regarding a previous question about the 6000 troops that McCain requested? That figure is indeed accurate according to his website, and his request was approved today by the Senate Armed Services Committee.

http://mccain.senate.gov/public/ind...ecord_id=dc3f744e-ed88-89e2-c065-2e890a4bbeaa
 

LDB

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That border should be locked down 100% and anyone crossing other than at a legal crossing point should be shot on the spot. News of that policy would take a few minutes to get to every citizen, a few hours to get to 98% of those who would be attempting to cross illegally and a few days to get to 98% of the world population. Obama is the worst kow tow suckup in history. This administration would have to improve greatly to reach the level of being a joke. That would be better than being the disgrace that it is. As much as I was not a major fan of Bush, he was definitely superior to this disgrace. Heaven help us with 32 more months for this bum to ruin our country.
 

layoutshooter

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The borders need locked down and controlled. Those here illegally need deported. We need an "American English" amendment to the Constitution. Our immigration policies need reformed and updated. Those things need done in that order.
 

layoutshooter

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dreamers....:p


You got that right!! Like either our congress or president give a rats butt about this country!! They are only interested in lining their own pockets and POWER!! They want ALL the money and ALL the control. Leaving the borders open suits their needs.
 

greg334

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One article I read this morning claimed that there are 13 million Mexicans in the us and half of them are invaders.

If this is the case. deportation is possible to a certain extent.
 

layoutshooter

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One article I read this morning claimed that there are 13 million Mexicans in the us and half of them are invaders.

If this is the case. deportation is possible to a certain extent.


Deporting 13 million ILLEGALS could provide a LOT of work for LEGAL U.S. citizens!!! That would go a very long way towards getting rid of unemployment!!
 

RLENT

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One article I read this morning claimed that there are 13 million Mexicans in the us and half of them are invaders.

Deporting 13 million ILLEGALS could provide a LOT of work for LEGAL U.S. citizens!!!
Jeezuz ...... and people wonder why we have National Security problems ..... between the inability to comprehend simple "American" English and the math/arithmetic deficiency ..... we might as well just call Putin, Calderone, and Hu Jintao and tell 'em we'll leave the keys in the mailbox ....
 
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layoutshooter

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Jeezuz ...... and people wonder why we have National Security problems ..... between the inability to comprehend simple "American" English and the math/arithmetic deficiency ..... we might as well just call Putin, Calderone, and Hu Jintao and tell 'em we'll leave the keys in the mailbox ....


Is it dyslexia? Could it be dyscalculia? Could it be that some just type quickly and don't always pay attention? Not every mistake is an "inability" to understand. Sometimes people just mistype or make mistakes. In face, everybody does. No one is perfect. Shoot, some even make the mistake of belittling others who might not write as pretty or, heaven forbid, not agree with others more "lofty" ideas.

We have National Security problems because many of our leaders in office and many "everyday" Americans are not able to comprehend the problems we face. They are complex problems. They are not to be taken lightly. They are not being addressed in a responsible manner. They should be.

Maybe if more Americans cared, spent less time in pursuit of the next beer and watching the next game, we would have a much better shot at fixing these things. If they paid more attention to the real problems we face we might not have the types in government that cause these problems.
 

Freightdawg

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When you are in stores in Laredo or other S Texas cities, it amazes me that most of the signs are in spanish with English in(). When I fly into Mexico, every form, and there are a lot, are in Spanish only. I don't hable espanol very well, but I can usually read the forms. At most airports, we have handlers who help, but not always. There are always plenty of troops glaring at you though. I once had to divert to Aquas Caliente due to heavy fog that closed the airport at Guadalajara. The Mexican Air Force surrounded us with automatic weapons and unloaded our freight (baby chickens), They were convinced that we were US agents hauling weapons or drugs INTO Mexico! Another time I was clearing customs inbound at Brownsville, Texas. I was the eight airplane in, so I got the drug dog to sniff my airplane. The next airplane came from Columbia. The agents really wanted to check that airplane with the drug dog. They couldn't because that would be profiling! They could only check every 8th airplane. Is that screwed up or what?!?!
 
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