Yeap, he pretty much hit it out of the park here

chefdennis

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Read it and weep:

anctimonious hypocritical preaching


It has become a rather common yearly and some times even monthly occurrence that the imperial elites of America gallop up on their white horses to read the riot act to the rest of the world, some times even to the EU, on how to be a republic.

This is of course rather humerus for as far as republics go, the US is definitely a failed one. Disregarding the fact that the US constitution is routinely ignored, the power politics of the past 130 years have done everything in their power to make sure there are enough stumbling blocks and hurdles that only their chosen candidates can muster the needed support to run for any high office.

Between extremely complicated election laws, requiring armies of lawyers, double standards for the major parties to the exclusion of third parties, dirty tricks, intimidation , and a media hell bent on serving the power politic and not the people, the system makes sure that reelection rates to the US Congress stay at or above a 95% rate. Most senators die or retire, the only way to clear them from their seats. But what a job, 4 months of actual work, high perks, the ability to be bribed at will (both branches of the One Party system feed from the hands of pretty much the same special interests), tax payer paid retirement and pensions after one stint, and many many other benefits. This on top of the right to vote in your own 10% yearly raise, while most of their constituents have not seen a raise above 3% in 20 years.

This only gets ever more accentuated in presidential races, where almost always its two versions of the same Marxist theme running. Ronald Reagan was the only exception since Nixon and that was 19 years ago.

But does this corruption stop the hypocrites from lecturing the world? Of course not. It is a pity for them that, at least in Europe and East Asia, the level of literacy is much higher than the US' 65% and the people there see that the Imperial preaching is nothing but hypocritical nonsense. However, at home, this plays into the self righteous ignorance of the masses.

One additional, of many possible, examples. While DC's favorite target is the "autocratic" Russian state, let us examine the passage of a Russian bill. The bill, which stands alone, must be read twice to a quorum of the Duma , from the first word to the last word. This by its nature causes bills to be short and to the point, with clear laws and they stand or fall on their own merit. A proper system if ever one could be invented.

Now in the American system, a time limit is set for congressmen to read the bills on their own. There is of course, no requirement for them to do so and who has the time while partying with special interests and flying around the world on tax payer monies? Corruption smells like roses in the empire. Furthermore, bills do not stand alone but can either have riders, that is unpopular bills attached to a popular bill so that killing an unpopular bill will also kill the popular bill. This is holding hostage the will of the people to the interests of corruption, a very common tool in the American congress. The other option is what is called an omni -bill, a document that can be thousands of pages long and contain hundreds of new laws. The time limit for reading the complex legal language s usually 2 or 3 weeks. This way incredible amounts of laws are passed on to the shoulders of the serfs without any discussion or debate.

An example of this is Patriot Act, which in essence created the American KGB. This was a bill of 10,000+ pages, something that would break even Dostoevsky . What percentage of the congressmen read the whole bill before signing? Zero...that is right, zero read any significant portion...none, but vote on it they did. Who even knows all the little surprises hidden in those 10,000+ pages?
And this is the model of a democratic republic?

Stanislav Mishin


Mat Rodina

Oh encase you missed it, the blogger is a RUSSIAN and this is from his Blog. He is not from the U.S., but he certainly understands our politics.....You might checkout his blog, it is full of, just common sence stuff...

I am not by any means advocatig the Russian way of life, just that it seems funny that most americans would rather eat dinner, drink a beer and care more about who is winning on american idol then worry about what is going on in their own country..where those in a country we think is beneath us in all ways, has a pretty good grip on whats going on here...
 
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Turtle

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I don't think he hit it out of the park at all. At best it's a bunt. He's got the highlights of a few situations and is applying them across the board. Our election laws hardly require armies of lawyers except in the most bizarre of circumstances. He talks of American politics and how it excludes third parties, of corruption, dirty tricks, intimidation, and the media serving the power politic instead of the people. Yeah, Russian politics have never had any of that sort of thing going on. <snort>

He talks of how bills come up and get passed in Russia, but the manner in which he compares Russian and American legislation is hypocritical at best. In Russia, the Russian Federation is a federal presidential republic, with the Russian president being Head of State, as well as head of the multi-part system (essentially making it a single-party system in most respects), and he has the executive power of the government, which is headed by the Prime Minister, a post that the President appoints and controls. Legislative power is handled by the two chambers of the Federal Assembly, which is headed by the Prime Minister, whom the President appoints. Despite the Federal Assembly, the President and the Prime Minister can, at any time, issue legally binding by-laws, orders and decisions that completely bypass the Federal Assembly.

He lauds the manner in which bills are passed in Russia, while failing to mention that when bills are read aloud, for the vast majority of listeners it is the first time they have heard anything about the bill, and they are expected to vote yes or no immediately after the second reading of the bill. There is no time for study, for amendments, or even a rewording of the bill. It's up or down, right now. That's the way pork is legislated over there. It's not as sneaky as we have it here, but it's just as effective.

He also states that in Europe and East Asia the literacy rate is much higher than the US's 65%. Again, he's guessing, or he's being fed erroneous information. The literacy rate in the US is 99%, the same as in most European countries, including the UK, Germany, France, the Nordic countries and many of the Slavic countries. Russia and almost all of the former Soviet Bloc countries report literacy rates of between 99.5% and 100% (Georgia). These are the figures from the UN Development Program's Human Development Index, which also notes that Russia and the other countries who report higher than 99% are self-reported and unconfirmed. Middle Eastern and African countries have extraordinarily poor literacy rates, including Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Afghanistan is one of the worst at 28%, Pakistan, India, Liberia. It's quite a long list of the under-80% crowd.

As for the Patriot Act and not a single congressman having read it before voting on it, well, he doesn't know that. He's guessing. Probably not many did read it, but probably a few actually did, and for sure their aids and clerks read it all as did the press and many of the American people. I read it. Every word. And after reading it I expressed my concerns to my congressman and Senators.

The American system of politics and government is not perfect, but at least it has a few more checks and balances than the Russian Federal has within. I'm not so sure that I'd go as far as to say that he, or most Russians for that matter, have a firm grasp on American politics, since they know only what the press over there tells them about us, the same as we have over here about them.

Yeah, Americans can be very hypocritical at times. So can everyone else. I do think it's a little hypocritical, though, of a Russian to be sanctimoniously preaching to Americans about being sanctimoniously hypocritical. Russians don't have a lot of political sanctimony to wiggle around in.
 

layoutshooter

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Darn Turtle, that is twice in one day we agree!!!! But not to worry, I sure it won't last long unless you finally learn that I am right most of the time!!!! LOL!!! Just wait, under the "New Order" that Osama Obama and the New American Marxist (Dumbecrats) party are going to usher in we too will have a Soviet style government. I can't wait to see the new national secret police force Obama will form. Coming soon to your neighborhood, government sniches. They government will pay "informents" to make up stories about thier neighbors. You know, Layoutshoot owns 5 machine guns and then Obama's goons will rush in to save the country from the subversive. Layoutshooter
 

Turtle

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Every time I see the sign that says "Report fuel tax evasion" I want rip the sign off the pole and stomp on it.

OK, sure, "Report drunk drivers," I can get on board with that one, as drunk drivers are a danger to everyone. But to snitch on fuel tax evaders just smacks of Soviet style Communism where everyone is tellin' on everyone just to garner Brownie Points that you can never redeem.
 

chefdennis

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Ok while he did make comparisions to the russian system, the jest of the article was the BS the we try to push onto other countries while whe system we have we let become broken.

When was the last time a 3rd party canidate won the office of the president?

Don't need a bunch of lawyers to get the election laws figured out/ Tell coleman that in Minn.

Our literacy rate is 99%? when 1 in 7 adults here in our country can't even read this!?!? *

sure he went overboard on his points, all media members do, but he has a good grasp of whats going on here, the government is no long run by the people, it is now run by the corrupt and used to control the people. It is broken and thats what he is saying, 'who are we to impose our broken system on other countries".....?

As i said , i am not advocating the soviet system at all, but our system is far from what our founding dads gave us, we have broken it!!!

* Literacy study: 1 in 7 U.S. adults are unable to read this story - USATODAY.com

PS: As broken as our system is, its about to get worse also.............
 

OntarioVanMan

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PS: As broken as our system is, its about to get worse also.............

you had a good response going and then you just HAD to put that in.....

as much as some in here dislike the President-elect...your only ASSUMING what will happen....when did you guys get "Press Passes"?
 

chefdennis

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Don't need press passes, all you have to do is listen to his own words....and not those in print from the MSM, just recorded words, like the one i post on "HIS muslum faith", straight from his own mouth to us........
 

Moot

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Our election laws hardly require armies of lawyers except in the most bizarre of circumstances.

Turtle, that one might be a tough sell at the bizarre bazaar in Minnesota and Illinois.
 

Turtle

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Well, for the most part, the armies of lawyers in Minnesota are at work because someone wants to win, and they want to win really bad, so they're trying everything they can come up with to wrestle a victory out of it. The laws in Minnesota aren't all that complicated, they're pretty straight forward. It's the lawyers that are trying to complicate things.

As for Chef's "can't let it go" quote from Obama on "his" Muslim faith, all you have to do is watch the entire video, in context, and you'll know that he didn't momentarily have a brain fart and forget that he was a Muslim and he's supposed to keep that a secret. He misspoke while his mind was formulating an answer, and considering the topic of the conversation at that point, it means exactly squat. I defy anyone to state that they have never misspoke on any issue.

As for our Russian blogger friend, like I said, he really doesn't have a good grasp of how American politics are run. You say it's broke, but when was it ever perfect? It's never been perfect and it never will be. But it's better than most, still.
 

chefdennis

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I never said it was perfect, i said it was broken and it is. As for hs mis-speaking, BS... in my opinion and many others he is a muslum (and that is being nice about it, i just remived the adjectives) and will be their best friend in our country...As i said, MY opinion :D

PS: I can denonce the faith i was born under and rasied under, but it is still part of me..........as it is with osamaba...

PSS: I have the complete interview and have had since the day it was made out..there is no "context' to him misspeaking, he said just as he corrected it when it was pointed out, with no emotion or apologetic speach pattern at all, he just brezzed by it as if it were everyday speach.
 
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Turtle

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"I never said it was perfect, i said it was broken and it is."

Well, OK, let me re-phrase. When was it ever not broken?


As for Obama and his Muslim faith, I know there's no point in even discussing it intelligently with you, since you deeply prefer to believe that he is a Muslim. That's fine. But the fact is he never said he was a Muslim. He was in the process of communicating an idea, a thought, a point to be made. Do you even know what point he was trying to make? It's called communication, and it's what people do. He breezed by it as if it were everyday speech, because it was everyday speech. He was engaged in everyday conversation, and that's what people do in everyday conversations. He simply chose a bad phrasing, Steffie questioned him about it for clarification, and he clarified it, to complete his thought, his point, his communication of the idea he was trying to convey. It was a point that you apparently have yet to get a grasp of.

“John McCain has not talked about ‘my Muslim faith’…” Obama says..

“What I’m saying is that [McCain] hasn’t suggested that I’m a Muslim…” Obama cleared up George Stephanopoulos’ correction.

It's that simple.

I shudder to think what you'd label him if, instead, he simply said, "My bad."

There ya go.
 

chefdennis

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yeap a very inforative article for us westerners, but i really don't give a crap one way or another. As forblogger, knowing it, again, i give a crap if he does or not.....:D
 
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