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iceroadtrucker

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Well Finaly JC (John Macaine) admited why we were in IRAQ the oil interesting isnt it. Lets see him back outa that one.
JC and Clinton want to give us a break and resend the 14 cents on Fuel gas tax for 3 months. What a Joke. Here is somthing, if they want to do somthing how about getting rid of the 14 cents and the 75 fed then the state 45 to 60 to the state as well add it up now that would be better than a tank of gas. but no they just offer the 14 cents for their campaign. what a rip. Many in the American Public support it.
Obamma hit it on the head Youll save a tank of gas wow. good job.
Jessey Venture the other night on the tonight show with Jay man said hey NONE of the Above as Mcaine is too wishy washy and he's to old check it out he wants to be president but federal employess he signed a bill for them to have to retire at 65 hmm interesting isnt it he is 71hmm.
Hillery she is wishy washey as well not to mention the white water scandel and the rest but she has been tested ya right. She been tried and tested just like GI JANE FONDA I put them in the same Catagory. U dont need to ask why.
Jessy said Obama is too young to do anything. Well If Jessy was on the ballot who knows. But then again Most liberals hate him any way. but maybe that is because he isn't a crook but a straight shooter and we who are straight shooters know that we usualy finish last . Far as oil goes there is more than enough in america to last 200 years all we got to do is build some refineries hey interesting concept that would make jobs for americans. Im not talking inporting hired help outa Mexico either. American workers is what Im talking about.
Al Gore Shut up!!! Sit down listen You were stupid when u were a senator and questioned Oliver North in 87 about his 60,000 home security system and he told you the reason Osama bin Lauden. Now ur worried about Global warming and the Enviroment Funney and U also as u stated invented the internet. RIGHT. go stick ur head in the sand or better yet run to canada like BILL whom Of which stated 1. I smoked it but never inhailed and 2. I never had Sexual Relations with that women. RIGHT.
Now we all know that Iran is in the Media and Old George wants to get into it with them. Hey even old John and Hillery said it. She wouldn't hesatate to answer the call with Stirke. Hmm
Obamma he stated let them fight it out them selves and bring the troops home. Good for him.
I did my service but I sure dont want childern in that mess over there, if thats to be then RECALL me back ill Gladely go in there place.
I think throw the whole mess out and start over I realy believe an Independent if it were to be Jessy or some one of that stature would be good for this country.
How can we possibly vote for some one like John who is 71 that put his name on a bill that is law that states Fed Employees retire at 65??
How can we possibly vote for some one like Hillary who keeps changing her views on what she is about, from state to state. first she is then she not. Just to get the Vote. She been Tested Right. ya she sure has. Did you know our tax dollers are paying her Mortage which is 10,000 a month. ya thats what they are charging for the accomodations on the land the govt paid for there secret service agents housing. Food for thought. along with their saleries Health care ect should I go on. ???
How can we not possibly Vote for Obamma Hes a straight shooter and calls a spade a spade and doesnt waver. Hmm I guess he too young. oh ya somne one on here said he didnt stand for the pledge to the flag Obamma get your head outa your U know what. Maybe instead of bing presidnent all canadates should have done time in the service as a prerec intead of being lawyers and such jargan. hmmm
Then as Jessy says Hey Vote for none of the above well Jessy If we did that it would be Hillary in office as Billy the comeback kid would make sure his wife got the Nomanation.
Who knows From what I see on here Alot are for Clinton and a few for Mcain and almost none for Obama.
Well I think it would do the country good to have Obamma. But If Jessy was running Hed get my vote as I know he not afarid to stand up to the crooks in washington. But that is realy what this election is realy about as the popular vote wont get the person President just the Electorial Vote gets the President Chair.
Seems They want some body thats considered a good ole boy or girl. Part of that Club Just like at the Big Big Companies.
Then after the big companies spank or kick out bar that individual when they are let back in they shut there mouth and go with the flow.
Jessy not like that and thats why many dont like the old Crusty Navy Seal.
He simply tells it like it is popular or not.
ROFL:):)
 
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Tennesseahawk

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"Now we all know that Iran is in the Media and Old George wants to get into it with them. Hey even old John and Hillery said it. She wouldnt hesatate to answer the call with Stirke. Hmm
Obamma he state let them fight it out them selves and bring the troops home. Good for him.
I think throw the how mess out and start over I realy believe an Independent weather it be Jessy or some one of that stature would be good for this country."

Question... when you posted that pic of yourself in Navy utilities, were those bought at an Army surplus store? If you remember the 70s, that's exactly what Carter did. And that's why the Middle East is the way it is today... because we didn't stand up for our ALLIES.

..."Well I think it would do the country good to have Obamma. But If Jessy was running Hed get my vote as I know he not afarid to stand up to the crooks in washington. But that is realy what this election is realy about as the popular vote wont get it just the Electorial Vote gets the President Chair."

Let's see... Ventura - a fiscal and social conservative who thinks we should work for, and keep, what we make. Obama - a fiscal and social socialist who thinks we should make government bigger, and share the wealth of those who earn their money with ppl who sit on their butts. Yeah... I could see how you could have a hard time deciding between the two. Do you actually know what the electorate is and why it's there?

..."They want some body thats considered a good ole boy or girl. Hint
ROFL"

ROFL indeed. No offense, MKW... don't vote.
 
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iceroadtrucker

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You realy dont have clue who I am.
The jokes still on ya
I dont drive a Tonka Truck I drive the real deal.
Here is your hint
BIG TIME

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Pilgrim

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Unfortunately, McCain is not another Bush - if anything, he's closer to being another Hillary. After we endure about 18 months of the McCain presidency combined with a Democrat-controlled congress, we'll be wishing we could have Bush back. With every passing day, it appears this scenario becomes more probable as we watch Obama and Hillary flounder through their primary. If it weren't for the war, we could probably look forward to McCain's tenure being similar to that of Gerald Ford who accomplished nothing but vetoed almost everything the Democrat congress tried to pass (which was noteworthy). However, some critical decisions will have to be made soon after he takes office and we must hope he assembles some excellent aides and cabinet members to make these decisions for him, because he doesn't seem to be packing the mental gear.

By the way - here's a news flash for anyone who thinks the Iraq war is about oil - IT'S NOT, and that's too bad. We could sure use the extra supply right now, and it would certainly be easier to get it from over there than trying to overcome the environmental wackos and recover our own natural resources. If this war was about oil, we could very easily make the case to confiscate every drop that comes out of their ground as repayment for the gazillions of dollars we're spending on their behalf. However, if McCain wants to make the war about oil, maybe he's not so bad after all.
 

Moot

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Jesse Ventura had a unique opportunity to prove to a watching country that a third party candidate was a viable alternative. He won the gubernatorial race as a candidate for the Reform Party of Minnesota. He then failed as governor of Minnesota.

Control of the state house and state senate were split between the Republicans and the Democrats. The state needed a leader that could work with both sides to get things accomplished. Jesse was not that leader. He chose to play the role of victim and agitator, alienating himself from both parties in power, the media and the people of Minnesota.

Jesse did have some good ideas that he was unable to accomplish because of his ego and childish ways. He did manage to use state gasoline tax dollars and matching federal funds to get a light rail line built between downtown Minnneapolis and the M.O.A. (Mall of America). Which did absolutely nothing to alleviate highway congestion. Ding, ding, here comes the little yellow train. Light rail, The Silent Killer. Total deaths so far, 7.
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ratwell71

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I don't think anyone in their right mind will wish for Bush back in office. That is unless you have been living under a rock. Geez.
 

Moot

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I don't think anyone in their right mind will wish for Bush back in office. That is unless you have been living under a rock. Geez.

ratwell, your name certainly could imply where you have been living these past 8 years. For your information George Bush is on his last year of his second term. Wish all you want but he will not be back for a third term.
 

greg334

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Jesse Ventura had a unique opportunity to prove to a watching country that a third party candidate was a viable alternative. He won the gubernatorial race as a candidate for the Reform Party of Minnesota. He then failed as governor of Minnesota.

Are you sure he was a failure, I remember reading about him and some idea that WTC was brought down by the government. Funny he maybe right, you know that government does some weird things and he should know......
 

Jack_Berry

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ratwell, your name certainly could imply where you have been living these past 8 years. For your information George Bush is on his last year of his second term. Wish all you want but he will not be back for a third term.
moot, i think rw is referring to this quote.
"Now we all know that Iran is in the Media and Old George wants to get into it with them. Hey even old John and Hillery said it. She wouldnt hesatate to answer the call with Stirke. Hmm

old george being the bush with one term left.
 
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ratwell71

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ratwell, your name certainly could imply where you have been living these past 8 years.

Actually it is my first initial and last name.

For your information George Bush is on his last year of his second term.

Thanks for letting me know the obvious.

Wish all you want but he will not be back for a third term.

I did not vote for him the first or second time. Not my favorite person. Need I say more?

The statement and just the thought of him doing a third term makes me want to hurl. That is how much this man makes me sick.
 

Tennesseahawk

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The statement and just the thought of him doing a third term makes me want to hurl. That is how much this man makes me sick.

Funny... I thought the same thing about Clinton when his second term was ending. I'm not into reality based soaps. But I digress. Bush leaving means we'll be trading Dumb for Dumber; no matter who's elected.
 
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Vinnie T

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All three candidates suck donkey butt!

The two party system is a scam

There are no check and balances from the three branches of government
 

ratwell71

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Huh? what? it works....

It used to work. Now the bigger the government gets the voices of the general population do not get heard. The problem is that it is not loud enough as an individual voice because there is no unity or solidarity amongst the people to make it louder. We would rather bicker amongst ourselves on our belief systems than stand in solidarity.

We must not forget that we helped create this problem.

What do we all have in common?

We all contribute to the problem.

JFK said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

What does this mean?

We all can help make our government become smaller by being part of the solution. This fuel cost issue is everyone's problem. The only way to combat it is to find a solution that works. Maybe let workers work from home. Wireless internet is in almost every home and location. Broadcast on our air waves how important it is to vacation near home. Maybe put a stiff fuel tax on those that do not depend on transportation as part of their jobs. This would help reduce the vehicles on the road. These higher prices right now should be swaying people to stay at home rather than drive around for no good reason. Maybe give corporations a tax credit if they purchase car pooling vans to pick up their employees at a centralized car pooling site. Give people an incentive to ride the metro links or public buses. Walk or ride a bike to work if you can. Maybe even reduce our speed limits. I walk as much as I can when I can.

Supply/demand and speculation are part of the problem. We are also part of the problem.
 

ratwell71

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All three candidates suck donkey butt!

The two party system is a scam

There are no check and balances from the three branches of government

I agree with how you feel, but you must remember these individuals were voted in by the people. What does that tell you? They spouted off their lies and we ate every word of it. Research is a wonderful thing but one must use those resources before feeding on the BS.

The two party system does create division and most of our founding fathers were against the idea. There must be unity or this country will fall.
 

Tennesseahawk

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Ratwell... for someone who comes across as being left of center, you have a good idea of what's going on. The check and balance of the government works in theory. But when you have judges legislating from the bench; then on top of it, 5 of the 9 Supreme Court justices think the Constitution is a living entity, and can be interpreted differently with each generation, we lose the balance. Case in point... the Supreme Court, by pompous decree, announced that CO2 is a pollutant. In their infinite, cross-eyed wisdom, they know more than scientists who've been studying this crap their whole lives. Typical lawyers.

As far as our country going to pot because of oil, I have three letters... NWO. We should have had numerous places tapped and ready to go, so things like this would never happen. America should be looking out for America first. A strong America trickles across the rest of the world, the same way that healthy businesses account for a strong economy.

When you have 500+ members of Congress all jockeying for power, rather than doing the PEOPLE'S business, then we end up with the bloated, ineffective government we have now.

And finally, we have the PEOPLE themselves. I'll post a snippet from something Pelicn posted around two years ago; and you'll understand our citizens... and ultimately the reason behind our situation...

About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;

2. From spiritual faith to great courage;

3. From courage to liberty;

4. From liberty to abundance;

5. From abundance to complacency;

6. From complacency to apathy;

7. From apathy to dependence;

8. From dependence back into bondage ."

Most think we're between apathy and dependence. That doesn't leave us much time as a nation.
 

ratwell71

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Ratwell... for someone who comes across as being left of center, you have a good idea of what's going on. The check and balance of the government works in theory. But when you have judges legislating from the bench; then on top of it, 5 of the 9 Supreme Court justices think the Constitution is a living entity, and can be interpreted differently with each generation, we lose the balance. Case in point... the Supreme Court, by pompous decree, announced that CO2 is a pollutant. In their infinite, cross-eyed wisdom, they know more than scientists who've been studying this crap their whole lives. Typical lawyers.

As far as our country going to pot because of oil, I have three letters... NWO. We should have had numerous places tapped and ready to go, so things like this would never happen. America should be looking out for America first. A strong America trickles across the rest of the world, the same way that healthy businesses account for a strong economy.

When you have 500+ members of Congress all jockeying for power, rather than doing the PEOPLE'S business, then we end up with the bloated, ineffective government we have now.

And finally, we have the PEOPLE themselves. I'll post a snippet from something Pelicn posted around two years ago; and you'll understand our citizens... and ultimately the reason behind our situation...

About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;

2. From spiritual faith to great courage;

3. From courage to liberty;

4. From liberty to abundance;

5. From abundance to complacency;

6. From complacency to apathy;

7. From apathy to dependence;

8. From dependence back into bondage ."

Most think we're between apathy and dependence. That doesn't leave us much time as a nation.

I totally agree with everything you stated. AMEN.
 
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