Some wish to destroy

[layoutshooter]

Jack, we put more troops on the beaches on Normandy in one day, June 6th, 1944 than we have in Afghanistan at this time. This is what happens when we don't take an enemy serious.

Keep this in context, we fought all over the Pacific, the Atlantic, on the sea, under the sea, in the air, on island after island, in China, Burma, India, had over 11,000 troops building one road in Canada and Alaska. It is a world war, we must fight it as such. Yeman is nothing new, been bad guys for as long as I can remember.

 

[RLENT]

Okee Dokee, I can buy that!!

Good.

I can tell you one thing for sure. I pity the stupid media person/reporter whatever who's reports cause the death or injury of my son. It will not be pretty.

Yeah ..... well I certainly don't wish any harm to come to your son (or any other US serviceman or woman for that matter) for any reason - irresponsible reporting or otherwise.

There just not enough courts out there to provide the kind of "justice" that I will reek on that person(s). That is a promise.

One I hope you never find yourself obliged to carry out .....

It is interesting however (and rather unfortunate) that you have such a completely negative view of the press. There's no doubt that they have their faults - and they are many.

However the Founding Fathers recognized that a free press, free from government control, was essential to the maintenance of the Republic - that's why they included the protection for it in the 1st Amendment.

 

[layoutshooter]

My view of the press is based on reality of their action. I firmly believe in a free press, I just happen to believe that we no longer have on for the most part.

I too hope that no one is ever harmed again by the, at best, irresponsible reporting of the press, or at worst, deliberate reporting in such a way to aid our enemy in the killing of our troops and damage or destroy our way of life.

I do not want to take anyone on RLENT. I would rather just go about my own business, hunt, fish and play with my grand daughter when I get the chance. The cold hard fact is that if you harm anyone in my family I will act. I believe that all this is intentional and designed to kill Americans. It is far too prevelant to be an accident or just to assume that so many reporters and journalists are just that stupid.

 

[RLENT]

My view of the press is based on reality of their action.

Yes, I know - the tendency of the mainstream press to parrot whatever current administration and officeholders are saying has certainly grown - investigative journalism and real reporting for the mainstream press, to some extent, has become a lost art.

Instead, we have alot of "news-tainment".

I firmly believe in a free press, I just happen to believe that we no longer have one for the most part.

Really - you think the press is less free ?

How so ?

Actually I think that in some ways we have a more free press than we have ever had - with the advent of the internet, more and more people have taken up the mantle and investigated, produced, and distributed more information than has ever occurred in the past.

That there is more available is good - of course for the consumer, separating the wheat from the chaff has always been the trick.

It is far too prevelant to be an accident or just to assume that so many reporters and journalists are just that stupid.

Oh, I would never sell my fellow man short when it comes to stupidity - one look at history should abuse anyone of making that mistake.

 

[jaminjim]

When Wolf Blitzer said: "That's my job. I'm a newsman. That's what I try to do, is make news." I wanted to put my hand thru the radio and ring his scrawny neck. Thats the problem with these talking heads. Instead of reporting on the events of the day, and how they may impact us, they have to talk smack about how their favorite politician would have done better and how the opposing side screwed the pooch.

 

[Jack_Berry]

joe, we may have had more troops on the normandy beach and all over the pacific and in north africa and italy BUT the manpower is not there we are told in todays armed forces(combined). ww2 was a volunteer war and the nation turned out after 12/7/41. there are higher standards in todays armed forces, lower head counts for jobs as veterans are staying in the service longer.

without the help of our "allied nations" either eu or middle eastern we cannot keep opening fronts. you have noticed how our allies in the middle east do not take up arms against their brothers nor do they defend our actions. pakistan has started offensive operations and the taliban and al-q have made them take notice they don't like it. does this terror inhibit more of our "allied nations" to refrain from active interest in this conflict? the saudis have a lot of american fire power in their arsenel but who do they use it against? egypt is busy with hamas and israel and the gaza strip. which of our "allied nation partners" will join us?

 

[greg334]

joe, we may have had more troops on the normandy beach and all over the pacific and in north africa and italy

Actually we did have something like eight times the amount of combat troops on the ground but we can't forget the size of the country we were fighting. Our operations in the Middle East are still smaller than say North Africa.

BUT the manpower is not there we are told in todays armed forces(combined). ww2 was a volunteer war and the nation turned out after 12/7/41.

Well not really, the manpower is less than we had during the late 50's (one example) and WW2 wasn't a volunteer war by any means. The draft was started in September of '40 and a lot of people didn't want to be a part of it.

there are higher standards in todays armed forces, lower head counts for jobs as veterans are staying in the service longer.

I don't agree, hearing the problems by some have witness in boot, talking to a few DIs who are very frustrated and knowing what strict standards there were until 1943 (the raised the age and waived some of the medical requirements), it may be that the recruit in 1943 was better equipped to handle the stress and had a better mindset of the situation. The health of the '40's recruit was by far much better even coming out of the depression because we were a manual labor society then, we didn't have dietitians attached to training units or had a wide variety of "healthy food" for them to eat and it surely wasn't a concern with politically correct behavior.

Don't get me wrong, we still have the best fighting armed forces in the world and proud of them.

 

[Jack_Berry]

Actually we did have something like eight times the amount of combat troops on the ground but we can't forget the size of the country we were fighting. Our operations in the Middle East are still smaller than say North Africa.



Well not really, the manpower is less than we had during the late 50's (one example) and WW2 wasn't a volunteer war by any means. The draft was started in September of '40 and a lot of people didn't want to be a part of it.

which is why my statement was about after 12/7/1941. my fathers natl guard unit was mobilized soon after that.



I don't agree, hearing the problems by some have witness in boot, talking to a few DIs who are very frustrated and knowing what strict standards there were until 1943 (the raised the age and waived some of the medical requirements), it may be that the recruit in 1943 was better equipped to handle the stress and had a better mindset of the situation. The health of the '40's recruit was by far much better even coming out of the depression because we were a manual labor society then, we didn't have dietitians attached to training units or had a wide variety of "healthy food" for them to eat and it surely wasn't a concern with politically correct behavior.


well all i hear from people in the army and navy is about the testing being done to ensure a smarter combat force. true the person in 1940 and after might have been in better condition physically but that has occurred since physical fitness was sluffed off as not important. can't be embarrassing the out of shape kids for fear of driving them into a socially distorted tormented life. blame the parents also for the diets they allow their children and the american business world for the fast food craze that has existed allowing anyone access to the 1200 calorie big mac. depending on activity level you only need 1200 to 1600 calories a day to get by.


Don't get me wrong, we still have the best fighting armed forces in the world and proud of them.

AMEN to that.