S.C. nominee

[Pilgrim]

Clarence Thomas has EVERYTHING to do with it. He had no record on the bench,he was at the bottom of his law class and besides being an Afircan American,which was POINTED OUT EVERYTIME his indesretions surfaced,he was a very poor pick. It was the Democrats who bent over because they did not want to be seen as playing the race card. A very poor choice on their part and one I did not agree with.

Throwing Clarence Thomas into this discussion is completely irrelevant to the degree of being strange. As usual, it's also filled with fantastic claims: in fact, Thomas was in the top two percent of his graduating class at Holy Cross and judged to be in the middle of his class at Yale Law School (his grades are not public - their system is a modified pass/fail basis); everybody able to read a newspaper or watch TV knows the Democrats went to absurd extremes to defeat his nomination because he wasn't a liberal like his predecessor Thurgood Marshall; Anita Hill's stories were discredited and she was exposed as a fraud and a publicity-seeking crackpot.

Greg,ever see the movie " Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" ? Your lame analogies remind me of that movie.

"Lame analogies"?? This is a list of facts that don't happen to be in sync with the liberal template promoted in the media. Here's a lame analogy: comparing this list of facts to the premise of Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?

Her scholastic achievments make Thomas look like a special ed student.

Really? What are they, exactly.

Lets not pre judge here yet. By the way I personaly find the word puke objectionable used as a verb and not a noun which it properly is.

Are you kidding? You've already pre-judged Sotomayer as you obviously did Thomas. Regarding the term "puke"; I agree - personally, I would have used the term bigotry instead. Thomas is from the south, he's conservative and he's an introvert that doesn't kiss up to politicians. That's enough to make him unfit in spite of his compelling personal success story. But again - why should we be talking about him in the first place?

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Im so glad Leo brought up zipper.Clarenece Thomas was assoicated with a zipper problem in his hearings.I won't go into detail,however it seems he had a favorite male porn star whom he related to. He made sure a certain young woman in his office was aware of his taste in adult entertainment.Gross and disgusting coming from any Supreme Cout nominee.
Won't even comment on that, since it just you being you.

As well, Judge Thomas made several references to how his view from the African American persepective would be beneficial to the court. It is well documented and no issue was made of it at the time by either side of the aisle.Why do you think that is Leo? BECAUSE IT'S TRUE !! I think the white guys club has been the source of many of the problems in this country for the last 30 years.Politicis has been a bought and sold game since Joe Kennedy set his eyes on the prize.It's no secret,nor should it be. Women,blacks hispanics need not apply. Catholics,sure if you have enough money and enough connections.
Apparently, Judge Thomas isn't black enough. He can obviously think for himself, and can read the Constitution for what it says, and not for what it makes him feel. I think his hope was that blacks would see him as a success, and react to that. Unfortunately, he's seen as an Uncle Tom, instead.

It's not like African Americans, women and latinos just happen to get smarter the last 30 years.,It's because our Constitution privides for equal treatment under the law,and that happens to include equal opportunity for all. It just took a liberal mind set (read brains) without predjudice to set the wheels of equality in motion.I know,the dark ages were so much easier for some. Archie Bunker lives dam it!
Ask those firefighters who scored better than those picked. I'm sure they'll say some were 'more equal' than they were. It seems Sottomayor was too busy rendering personal vendettas, and righting wrongs based on history, rather than reading the Constitution and basing her verdicts on that alone.

But fear not, there are still bastions of ignorance and intolorance spread through out our fair land,and they are free to have their say. Kind of like a masquitoe on a grizzly bear at this point however.Keep in mind white folks will be the minority in our life time.It's a melting pot,Irish were the modern day latinos and the welcome matt was not out. Can you evem imagine?

Yes, I can imagine. We're already catering to ppl of color other than white, by compelling them to feed off the government teet. We're already at the point where 51% lives off the other 49%; and that is where, historically, the system will collapse under the demands of its own ppl. Hope you can imagine living under a dictator, cause, historically, that's coming next. And that too will most likely happen in our lifetime. Makes me wish I never had kids... for their sake.

 

[LDB]

No Cal, Clarence Thomas has nothing to do with this nomination, other than the usual liberal tactic of changing the subject. The subject is the woman nominee who thinks she's in Congress or the Senate rather than the judiciary. The one who is unfit for the job she's been nominated for. The one who wants to make law instead of maintain rule of law.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

In Post #6 she explains her gaffe in her first speech...ands says the court don't make law....but I suppose that is not good enough that expect perfection....

oh and that Thomas thing, he was a pig....there was 1 other complaint and 1 statement made against him....

 

[LDB]

OVM, yes, she "explained" it but if you heard the tape recording of it you'd hear in her voice the sarcasm and the "nudge nudge, wink wink" in her voice while she was "explaining". I don't expect perfection but I do expect relative honesty as well as generally doing the right thing for the job. She falls short. Sorry, excuse not accepted.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

OVM, yes, she "explained" it but if you heard the tape recording of it you'd hear in her voice the sarcasm and the "nudge nudge, wink wink" in her voice while she was "explaining". I don't expect perfection but I do expect relative honesty as well as generally doing the right thing for the job. She falls short. Sorry, excuse not accepted.

Nope I did not hear the tape....your opinion is valid....
--at least to me for what thats worth....a non citizen, center of the road type guy, who's just a post turtle ....

 

[layoutshooter]

If Obama appointed her she is no good. Obama does NOT believe in the Constitution so he will appoint judges who do not. HE sucks so she must!! Makes sense to me. VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!! There, top that one!!! LOL

 

[Pilgrim]

In fact, each nominee should be considered on his/her own merit. We're in deep trouble when the powers-that-be decide that the Supreme Court has to be populated on the basis of political, racial and sexual quotas - and it looks like that is fast becoming the situation.

That being said, if anyone wanted to compare Sotomayor to another nominee it should be Miguel Estrada's nomination to the Circuit Court in 2001. The democrats were determined to stop this highly qualified jurist simply because he was a CONSERVATIVE Latino and Bush's "affirmative action" candidate. Estrada and a number of other Bush nominees would have received the necessary votes to be confirmed in congress, but were held up by democrat filibustering that required 60 votes for cloture. How easily we forget the democrats' political obstructionism based solely on partisanship and not the qualifications of the nominees.

 

[greg334]

Clarence Thomas has EVERYTHING to do with it. He had no record on the bench,he was at the bottom of his law class and besides being an Afircan American,which was POINTED OUT EVERYTIME his indesretions surfaced,he was a very poor pick.

So being black has to do with it. It only works for those who look at things by color and ethnic backgrounds but not by the person and what they are inside. Just like liberals look at Obama as a black president.

It does not matter if he has a record on the bench, I actually prefer someone who hasn't been indoctrinated to judge matters on their constitutionality.

It was the Democrats who bent over because they did not want to be seen as playing the race card. A very poor choice on their part and one I did not agree with.

Sorry Andy, but they didn't bend over backwards, they did seem to be a bunch of bigoted old men who hated blacks, especially Kennedy. I don't think you can re-write that history...

Greg,ever see the movie " Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" ? Your lame analogies remind me of that movie.

Well I have several times, had a poster signed by the stars of the movie just before Tracy died and also have the DVD - your point?

If my 'analogies' remind you of the movie then here is something for you to chew on... The subject of the movie, John Prentice made a point to his father when his father showed a lot of objections to his being involved with a White Women "You think of yourself as a colored man. I think of myself as a man." In other words he was talking to the old attitude confirming that he is equal to everyone because he is a man. The old way of thinking lasted a little longer and went away for a few months vacation in France and came back as the liberal mantra. Isn't that what you want, to have us look at Obama, Sotamayor and others what they are ethnically?

Let the vetting proceed.Perhaps there is Thomas style dirty laundry hiding,you never know.Her scholastic achievments make Thomas look like a special ed student.I can say that,right Leo? And it is very important to make sure we don't get another Thomas.
She is known to be hard on attorneys who show up for court unprepared,a really bad thing for most attorneys I know as so many are slackers.

Lets not pre judge here yet. By the way I personaly find the word puke objectionable used as a verb and not a noun which it properly is.

I hope that we rip her apart like any candidate of that court. I hope she can answer for the high rate of case turnovers above her court and I hope that she is treated fairly without the words being used to shut down the opposition.

 

[Pilgrim]

Here's a link to a website that seems to give a fairly objective picture of Sotomayor, and in particular includes a youtube clip of the famous quote about not making law from the bench. (Keep in mind this site is a cousin to Wikipedia and there might be some accuracy issues, but most of the content seems to be on target) You can tell by her tone of voice and her body language that she is making the comment tongue-in-cheek. It also lists six reversals from the Supreme Court, along with some others currently on revue including the critical one involving Ricci v. DeStefano that dealt with the white firefighters who were the victims of racial discrimination by the city of New Haven, CT. This is the case that everyone ought to be picking apart, since her stance displays her obvious racial bias against these firemen who were denied promotions solely because of their race.

http://judgepedia.org/index.php/Sonia_Sotomayor

 

[LDB]

They've played a longer version of her "we don't make policy" speech on the radio. She's so disingenuous it's pathetic. Nobody with clear vision and clear thinking would support this racist woman legislator wannabe.

 

[chefdennis]

She is also an ACTIVE member of "La Raza" and their sister groups

But it seems she is also "Pro-Life"!!!! Wonder how that got past barry....maybe that was is "token" take one for the team....

She has also had over 60% of her decisions overturned by a higher court........

But the fact is, barry can appoint anyone he wants...he is going to appoint people that have the same basic ideals as he does....as would any ither president

This pick isn't going to change the makeup of the court, but the next one might....this one could backfire a bit, if she isn't quite the liberal she is being painted as being...i wouldn't bet on it, but you just never know...but on the 1st look, she sure doesn't look to good.......

 

[Steady Eddie]

She is also an ACTIVE member of "La Raza" and their sister groups

But it seems she is also "Pro-Life"!!!! Wonder how that got past barry....maybe that was is "token" take one for the team....

Now aren't we all glad that obama's mammy was pro life?

 

[LDB]

Now aren't we all glad that obama's mammy was pro life?

Don't forget Mrs. Hitler too.

 

[greg334]

Well the one I expected to leave was ginsberg, her health is not the best and it may be a case where she will end up dying in her position because of her illness. She is liberal too, so I do expect that the next one will not change the court either.

AND remember that if the repubs get it together in the future any time soon, they do have the power to impeach any justice on the court which has already happened. They would need a good excuse, and there may be one that we haven't heard about with any of these nominees.

Also how do peoople come up with this idea that she is qualified with 60% of her cases being overturned? Doesn't that show she is not equipped to adjudicate cases properly.

AND while I am on the subject, does she have any connection to ACORN?

 

[OntarioVanMan]

A 60% overturn rate indicates to me that she was indeed trying to write law....which is contrary to what she is saying when she backpedaled, she actually said it right the first time.....

 

[Pilgrim]

AND while I am on the subject, does she have any connection to ACORN?

Maybe not ACORN, but she's a card-carrying member of La Raza (Spanish for The Race). For those not familiar with this organization, they have promoted driver's liscenses for illegal aliens, non-enforcement of immigration laws and the creation of a Hispanic homeland (as if they don't already have Mexico and Central America) that would necessitate the secession of several western states including TX, CA, NM and AZ.

Stop and think about the contradictions involved with a Circuit Court judge belonging to a race-based organization that promotes illegal activities and blatant disregard for the established laws of our country. How far do you think a Caucasian male jurist would get in the vetting process if he were a member of a whites-only group called The Race that promoted ignoring laws that didn't suit them and called for the secession of some of the former Confederate states to form a homeland for whites only?

It's a tragedy that the spineless Republicans can do nothing to stop the nomination of this unqualified candidate to the highest court in the land. Hopefully they will have the guts to loudly point out the kind of lifetime judges we'll get from the most liberal and most unqualified president we've ever had.

 

[layoutshooter]

The Re-Bum-Li-Cans are not really ANY different that the Dumb-O-Crats. They are only interesting in pandering for votes NOT doing what is right by the Constitution. They don't want to pizz off potential Hispanic (what ever that is) votes.

What we need is an amendment to the Constitution making Standard American English ('Merican) the National language. That would be the ONLY language allowed for ALL local, state and national OFFICIAL business. Like citizenship tests, drivers license tests, voting etc. It sould also include the RIGHT for employers to give basic English read comprehesion and writing tests. Don't EVEN try to say this is a "RACIST" idea. That is bull.

 

[LDB]

We need English as the official and only language for any/all business. We need a ban on any future amnesty plans as well as eliminating any/all public assistance for all prior amnesty recipients. I won't go as far as saying they have to be forced out but there would be zero benefits of any kind from any government entity now or ever. That would be a good start on fixing things, along with ignoring this racist activist that's been nominated.

 

[Steady Eddie]

Well the one I expected to leave was ginsberg, her health is not the best and it may be a case where she will end up dying in her position because of her illness. She is liberal too, so I do expect that the next one will not change the court either.

AND remember that if the repubs get it together in the future any time soon, they do have the power to impeach any justice on the court which has already happened. They would need a good excuse, and there may be one that we haven't heard about with any of these nominees.

Also how do peoople come up with this idea that she is qualified with 60% of her cases being overturned? Doesn't that show she is not equipped to adjudicate cases properly.

AND while I am on the subject, does she have any connection to ACORN?

This is what gets my goat.

Obama could not become an FBI agent due to not being able to pass thier back ground checks, (folks he "use" to hang out with), and this so called justice could not be placed on any juory, due to her comments.....