Ron Paul raid not needed

bobwg

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foxnews.com Ron Paul says raid to kill Bin Laden was not needed and if he had been Pres he would not have ordered the raid instead he would have trusted Pakistan to work with us
 

greg334

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His foreign policy and actions have me questioning things a bit but not as much as Obama's need to make the death a political campaign point for reelection.
 

bobwg

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the stuff Ron Paul says indicates he his not Conservative or Republican like he wants to legalize all drugs and the raid not being needed just wonder why he doesnt run independant or what he really his in the Lib party
 

LDB

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Ron Paul is not any more qualified overall than Obama to be Commander in Chief. He is incompetent as far as foreign policy is concerned.
 

Turtle

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His foreign policy and actions have me questioning things a bit but not as much as Obama's need to make the death a political campaign point for reelection.
I can't think of a single president who wouldn't use bin Laden's death to the fullest political extent possible.
 

Pilgrim

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I can't think of a single president who wouldn't use bin Laden's death to the fullest political extent possible.

Especially this one - it's the first decision he's made that had positive results. However, let's hope that it won't be used as ample reason for the US prematurely withdrawing from Afghanistan. It just amazes me how many people - liberals and a certain percentage of the general population alike - think that the war on terror is over now that vengeance has been served on this one individual.
 

chefdennis

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Ron Pauls military use policy is weak..really weak...and if you are a single issue voter, then you won't vote for him if that is your one issue...
 

greg334

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It just amazes me how many people - liberals and a certain percentage of the general population alike - think that the war on terror is over now that vengeance has been served on this one individual.

Turtle, this is the foundation for my point. Using it as a politcal vehicle is one thing but Obama and many others make it out as the end of terrorism and how we are now safer than we were before.

Listening to a few middle east terrorist 'experts' out of some university (didn't catch where they were from) this afternoon on the way home, I was struck by the conflicting comments being made by candidate Obama and these 'experts' on how Al Queda actually operates - Obama saying it is the end of the organization while they are saying that it is getting stronger in eastern Africa and maybe in Yemen.
 

witness23

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Turtle, this is the foundation for my point. Using it as a politcal vehicle is one thing but Obama and many others make it out as the end of terrorism and how we are now safer than we were before.

Listening to a few middle east terrorist 'experts' out of some university (didn't catch where they were from) this afternoon on the way home, I was struck by the conflicting comments being made by candidate Obama and these 'experts' on how Al Queda actually operates - Obama saying it is the end of the organization while they are saying that it is getting stronger in eastern Africa and maybe in Yemen.

When and where did the President say it is the end of the organization(al Queda)? Along with claiming this is the end of terrorism?
 
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witness23

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It just amazes me how many people - liberals and a certain percentage of the general population alike - think that the war on terror is over now that vengeance has been served on this one individual.

Who are these people and what percentage would you put on how many people/liberals that think the war on terrorism is over? I mean, have you actually spoke to someone who had stated he/she thought the war on terrorism is over because we killed bin Laden? Are these pundits, radio callers, bloggers, people leaving comments on web pages, news media, who? Seriously. Anyone with a half a brain wouldn't say such an obsurd thing.
 

Turtle

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Turtle, this is the foundation for my point. Using it as a politcal vehicle is one thing but Obama and many others make it out as the end of terrorism and how we are now safer than we were before.
Not saying he hasn't said that, but I haven't heard Obama say anything like that at all. In fact, I recall hearing him say specifically that the death of bin Laden in no way means the end of al Qaeda or terrorism or our fighting in Afghanistan. But even if he has said the death of bin Laden makes us safer, I think it would still fall under the "using bin Laden's death to the fullest political extent possible" umbrella. And I don't think it's "especially this one" who is doing it. I think every president would use it and milk it for all it's worth. Any president who would go the other direction and say his death really doesn't mean much in terms of stamping out terrorism would also be using that for political gain.
 

greg334

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True, I didn't say he said that but others have had a euphoric time with the death of the guy who may not be as significant as people have made him out to be.
 

aristotle

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Dumping Osama bin Laden into the ocean has set an excellent precedent for the United States. Such a move gives pause to future bad-guy wannabees. I cannot help but wonder what the reaction was in the Kremlin or China or Tehran? Will the Nobel Peace Prize Committee revoke Obama's medal? Will the International Court of Justice bring charges? Will the United Nations General Assembly pass a resolution of condemnation against Obama? It is a serious matter. It has been suggested former US President George W. Bush cannot travel outside the United States without fear of being arrested as a war criminal. There will be a certain segment most eager to hold the Obama administration accountable. This drama has only begun. Let's see how much foreign travel Obama takes once he is no longer in office.
 

xiggi

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I heard a radio commentator (conservative) refer to Ron Paul as that crazy uncle in the basement yesterday. I thought that was a very accurate description of him.
 
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