Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Maybe it's not falling because there are a lot of powerful countries with corrupt diplomats there. Oil for food ring a bell?
Obamma Yupper
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sdelliott31
Expert Expediter
As far as the UN comment with the countries on it and human rights.....AMEN to that. There does seem to be a conflicting issue of when to work with the UN and when not to. That bothers me some.
LDB: I like the comment about my confusion is reality setting in....Its a nice way to say I'm listening to other opinions...Thanks.
My politics really started with Bush Sr. Bombing Iraq and then Clinton in 1992. So you develop your opinions from there. At that time there was no real "history" of Carter or Reagan as president, other than they were. It was still a little too fresh for history books to evaluate, to younger kids anyway.
I have said I hope Obama engages McCain in debates, because I have liked some of the things he has done. I won't vote for Obama because he is black, but if I don't vote for McCain, it won't be because he is another Bush. I actually don't believe that personally. That is why Veep, I think, will be interesting selection for both candidates.
godslove139
Seasoned Expediter
Well i don,t like the way this Goverment is running! I hate granholm.That w---h has realy screwed this state up!Blanchard did ok but he had flaws too! I was refering to when the mayflower came over to from the united states.socialism or communissium.I have no problem with people getting legal citizionship,But i have a big problem with them coming over here and taking our jobs on work permits,or under the table.This is supost to be the Land of the Free,and home of the BRAVE.Of caurse you know more than anybody here.so I guess you need to get back on your STOOl
godslove139
Seasoned Expediter
I stongly the Goverment needs to go back to be for the people of this country,and be decided by the people. The 2 party system does not work anymore!IT seems more like Church people party,flower people party,and the convicts Party.I just don,t get into details as you do!If we didn't learn from the great depression,maybe where just going to keep repeating it on a cycle.Well till the day of armageddon,where our maker decides our fate....Seems we are getting closer to the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
greg334
Veteran Expediter
sdelliott31
Expert Expediter
C'mon now Gregg, just because I'm not as articulate on my wording as you are, don't pick apart everything I say. 
What specifically I meant, and if you read my other posts on McCain is.....
I hope Obama takes McCain up on his weekly debates or town hall meetings, because though I'm not a fan a of Bush, I like some of the things McCain has done or tried to do for campaign finance reform etc. I guess I am on the Obama side, but my mind is not made up until I hear the Veep choices and hear these two debate the issues a little bit and see how things play out. I was admiring McCain for not hiding for a few months until after the convention and to let the ads speak for him. I like the fact that he's ready to throw everything out on the table and let people decide. Whether they are for him or not. Whether you like Obama or not, I think HRC stole a couple primaries because she went negative in the last 48 hours to get over the top. I want a president that is not afraid to sit down and talk to us or debate the issues, not play the political game of hide and seek and drop a negative ad here and there. Thats all I was trying to say.
What specifically I meant, and if you read my other posts on McCain is.....
I hope Obama takes McCain up on his weekly debates or town hall meetings, because though I'm not a fan a of Bush, I like some of the things McCain has done or tried to do for campaign finance reform etc. I guess I am on the Obama side, but my mind is not made up until I hear the Veep choices and hear these two debate the issues a little bit and see how things play out. I was admiring McCain for not hiding for a few months until after the convention and to let the ads speak for him. I like the fact that he's ready to throw everything out on the table and let people decide. Whether they are for him or not. Whether you like Obama or not, I think HRC stole a couple primaries because she went negative in the last 48 hours to get over the top. I want a president that is not afraid to sit down and talk to us or debate the issues, not play the political game of hide and seek and drop a negative ad here and there. Thats all I was trying to say.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Oh, McCain.... I thought you were talking about Obama....
But this is what I get for living in a Boat..... and thinking that transflo is here at this truck stop... busy morning.....
Well there is not much of a choice for vp in the dems side, most of the good people won't run with obama or are ignored all together by the people who control the party.
The scary thing is on the repubs side because McCain does not have the party loyalty that many think he has, he has made a lot of enemies within the party and this is where a good person as a vp may be difficult to convince to run with him. There are only two people I would consider, one is Jindal, who I haven't seen a lot about but seems to be on the right track and the other is Palin (who I think would actually fight congress over the oil issues we have). The other people that I could consider are on the long list but who knows, McCain needs some balance and allow interaction with his 'running mate' and even let them run with some issues where Obama I think would be in the spot light too much and the choice will be in the background or even in the dark shadows waiting.
But this is what I get for living in a Boat..... and thinking that transflo is here at this truck stop... busy morning.....
Well there is not much of a choice for vp in the dems side, most of the good people won't run with obama or are ignored all together by the people who control the party.
The scary thing is on the repubs side because McCain does not have the party loyalty that many think he has, he has made a lot of enemies within the party and this is where a good person as a vp may be difficult to convince to run with him. There are only two people I would consider, one is Jindal, who I haven't seen a lot about but seems to be on the right track and the other is Palin (who I think would actually fight congress over the oil issues we have). The other people that I could consider are on the long list but who knows, McCain needs some balance and allow interaction with his 'running mate' and even let them run with some issues where Obama I think would be in the spot light too much and the choice will be in the background or even in the dark shadows waiting.
sdelliott, yes, you are at least engaging in discussions and not totally closed to input. There is hope for you yet. Your statement of fact that at least McCain has done some things is a good starting point. That coin has another side and the flip side is that Obama has done basically nothing other than vote the far left agenda when he's been present to vote. I'm more interested in McCain's VP choice than Obama, although that's an issue as well. There's nobody that could VP for Obama who could make his presidency make sense. For that matter, there's nobody McCain could choose that would move him from the bad position to the far side of Mr. Worst. The nightmare ahead is the possibility of all the new laws that aren't new laws because the legislature didn't enact them but we're bound by them because Obama puts people on the bench that are legislators not jurists. That should scare anyone with a lick of common sense to death.
When I go for my citizen test I'll know more on foriegn policy than most Americans and I'll tell them it was the Three Amigos that taught me...
Greg....Leo....and Hawk!!!
Greg....Leo....and Hawk!!!
So I take it that the dems have another 'immigrant' vote coming their way?
I live in WESTERN S. Dakota....hard core Reb land....My sister-in -law is a Rep in the S.Dakota Legislature..R. Cousin County Commissioner R...another cousin Town council R...Brother-in-law...head councel Cattlemens Assoc. R
All R's...I'd be hung from the nearest tree and fed to the wolves!!!
greg334
Veteran Expediter
I live in WESTERN S. Dakota....hard core Reb land....My sister-in -law is a Rep in the S.Dakota Legislature..R. Cousin County Commissioner R...another cousin Town council R...Brother-in-law...head councel Cattlemens Assoc. R
All R's...I'd be hung from the nearest tree and fed to the wolves!!!
Yea..... and your point?
I think your loyalty is to the party that makes it easy for those who want to come here and take my work away first before family.
They like McCain because he does talk tough to the middle east...for the same reasons you greg and Leo and Hawk point out...he's taking the high road....they (Iranians) won't take any chances if they even suspect the US will attack and will have to nogotate. McCain doesn't want war...but he also won't be afraid to dish out some tough love if he has to....he's been through it and knows the real horrors of war...Obama has only seen pictures and never lived it....
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Don't get me wrong. I'm not telling you to drink the Republican Kool-aid. Just asking you to think outside the box that Liberals try to enclose us in from day one of public education, be it Canadian, American, or European.
Someone spiked the Republican Kool-aid, turning too many into Rhinos! I'm conservative first. That means I don't give a damm what the Republican nominee says his creed is. If he doesn't smell like a conservative, talk like a conservative, or VOTE like a conservative, he won't get my vote. Granted, McCain is MORE conservative than Obama. But that doesn't mean he's conservative. Same way Chelsea Clinton is prettier than Janet Reno. But she's still butt ugly!
OVM... do you have Sirius or XM?
Someone spiked the Republican Kool-aid, turning too many into Rhinos! I'm conservative first. That means I don't give a damm what the Republican nominee says his creed is. If he doesn't smell like a conservative, talk like a conservative, or VOTE like a conservative, he won't get my vote. Granted, McCain is MORE conservative than Obama. But that doesn't mean he's conservative. Same way Chelsea Clinton is prettier than Janet Reno. But she's still butt ugly!
OVM... do you have Sirius or XM?
Hawk said..."OVM... do you have Sirius or XM?"
Neither....We don't listen to enough radio to make it worthwhile.
Neither....We don't listen to enough radio to make it worthwhile.
McCain is a moderate, not a conservative. I'm a conservative not a party person. That said, I'll keep a liberal out if at all possible. I'll do even more to keep an ultra liberal out. Obama is as ultra liberal as they come. That means voting for the moderate who has at least some chance of defeating him and keeping him out.
tallcal101
Veteran Expediter
Ark,there you go again,acting annd sounding like a back woods bully with a big bet buckle and a small brain. I know you get tired of feeling "picked on for being from 'bama",but by God boy don't act like a fool and people won't make negative assumptions
If you voted for bushwacked twice then you have no call to belittel the possably only hope to bring sanity back to our Republic. Wake up Ark,you sound like the vevry thing your trying to rise above with your education and road to a higher callling. That kind of religious baiting speaks to the lowest form ignorant southernn breeding that you fight so had to put behind.
If you voted for bushwacked twice then you have no call to belittel the possably only hope to bring sanity back to our Republic. Wake up Ark,you sound like the vevry thing your trying to rise above with your education and road to a higher callling. That kind of religious baiting speaks to the lowest form ignorant southernn breeding that you fight so had to put behind.