Obama fails miserably

LDB

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Obama at 200 days. How dismal it must be for him that at 200 days his approval rating is 51% when George Bush had a 200 day approval rating of 56%. That 5% difference is enough to be a statistically significant difference meaning it isn't "estimated" or "suggested" that Bush was better at 200 days, it's a fact. Obama sucks, another fact.
 

layoutshooter

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Well of COURSE Obama sucks!!! He has ALWAYS sucked!! IN FACT the ONLY thing that I can say GOOD about him is that he does NO damage when he is asleep!!! HEY!! I betcha that I don't like much about him!!! LOL!!!!! :eek:
 

Poorboy

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Well of COURSE Obama sucks!!! He has ALWAYS sucked!! IN FACT the ONLY thing that I can say GOOD about him is that he does NO damage when he is asleep!!! HEY!! I betcha that I don't like much about him!!! LOL!!!!! :eek:

Ofcourse He Sucks! He's NEVER in the Whitehouse, He's always Flying Around Wasting Taxpayers Money Trying to get His Agenda Accomplished which is His Health Care Package! Now he Flew that Big Ole Plane to Montanna with All of his Secret Service People with The Helicopters and Yukons! What a Waste He is as well as What it Costs the Taxpayers for Him to Fly Around! He's a Real P.O.S. :mad:
 

wellarmed

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I'm not defending Obama but your comparison doesn't hold water Bush didn't take over in a recession and any one who became President at the time Obama did would have to be some kind of miracle worker to get a higher approval rating.

You also failed to show whether Bush's rating maintained increased or declined and how about at the end of his term.

Again I'm not arguing your point, inquisitive minds want to know.

I enjoy reading in the soapbox and seeing all the views, I also enjoy someone else finding all the facts and posting them here for me to read.:D
 

hdxpedx

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I'm not defending Obama but your comparison doesn't hold water Bush didn't take over in a recession and any one who became President at the time Obama did would have to be some kind of miracle worker to get a higher approval rating.

You also failed to show whether Bush's rating maintained increased or declined and how about at the end of his term.

Again I'm not arguing your point, inquisitive minds want to know.

I enjoy reading in the soapbox and seeing all the views, I also enjoy someone else finding all the facts and posting them here for me to read.:D

the U.S. economy was in recession from March 2001 to November 2001, a period of eight months at the beginning of President George W. Bush's term of office.
 

layoutshooter

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One thing WellArmed, you CANNOT SPEND you way out of a recession. They are using "monopoly" money. We stand a VERY good chance of seeing hyper-inflation within a year. Rmember Carter? I do I remember my 16 1/2% mortgage. I remember getting NO pay raise or 1% and having an inflation rate of 15%. I never really believed that I would see that again. I did not think that ANYONE would be SO STUPID as to try that same old mess that has NEVER worked before. Obama and Co. did.
 

wellarmed

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I just wonder is there anyone in politics that could get us out of this mess if they were President and I do realize that Obama is creating allot of mess for future Presidents to have to straighten out.

Politics give me a headache but I've seen some of you guys come close to a coronary.

I always thought Collin Powell and Condaleshia Rice would make a good team.(sorry I know I spelled her name wrong)
 

layoutshooter

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I did NOT like Colin Powell when he was sorta in my chain of command during the !st Gulf War. He was too concerned about how he looked to the press. I don't believe that he can be trusted. MANY higher ups that I knew back then made sure that we ALL had rear view mirriors on our shoulders when he was around. You had to watch your back!!

I don't know if ANYONE from either of the two main parites could have or wanted to fix this mess. I half believe that this entire mess was set up.

I was interested in Jerry Curry, he was a bit old but he had DONE real stuff in his life.

It is going to take YEARS to get out of this one. MASSIVE tax CUTS and BIGGER spending cuts. That is the first things needed, at least in my not so humble position.
 

LDB

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C.P. absolutely not. C.R. possibly so. Powell is a racist opportunist who chooses his "side" based on wrong reasons to be "racially correct" or "heritage correct" or whatever. I don't know that anyone can fix it without eliminating the majority of the criminals like Pelosi, Reid, Snowe, etc. etc. as well as rescinding all amnesties given in the last half century to criminal aliens, locking the borders to any future incursions, eliminating the majority of "entitlements" to those who aren't entitled etc. etc..
 

OntarioVanMan

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CR was a yes girl...party girl...never did anything on her own...where is she now? What is she doing...if she is so strong how come not a word...Bush goes away so did she....
 

greg334

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CR was a yes girl...party girl...never did anything on her own...where is she now? What is she doing...if she is so strong how come not a word...Bush goes away so did she....

Rice wasn't all that of a yes girl, there are things that even John Bolton ripped into her about.

You do the bidding of your boss, that is the way it is supposed to be. Powell and Hillary for that matter are both too strong of individuals to be controlled, Rice knew how to be effective and like Bolton at the UN, she had gained a lot more respect than Albright (who was a joke), Christopher and even Powell. I thought it was really bad form and unethical to speak out of turn as Powell did after he left. Hillary who had no diplomatic experience and is really an embarrassment to the country, has been throwing around demands and working behind the scenes to try to force respect from other leaders and countries. This was proven this past week with several issues in Africa - like in the Congo with the student asking what Bill thinks and some of the response to her "demands". It was funny to see her anger at the question and the student of course made a mistake..... sure....

Never did anything on her own? you are kidding, right?

Look at her resume, she didn't get her degrees like others in this administration.

Some people don't want to deal with the politics and some others feel that they did their job and now it is time to leave with the administration.
 

Turtle

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Obama at 200 days.
My how time flies when you're an old fart. Seems like just the other day he was giving his acceptance speech in the park in Chicago. But he's really accomplished quite a lot in these past 200 days. I can only imagine what the next 1260 days will bring. He became the first president to fire the CEO of a major company, he took over the reigns of the American automobile industry, and the banking industry, and is diligently working on becoming both your doctor and your health care insurer. He's tireless, and versatile. But for all the hard work he's put in, he still took time out for a little fun, when he freaked out all of lower Manhattan when Air Force One buzzed the city with a jet fighter escort. That was a hoot.
 

aristotle

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Obama's first 200 days are like manna from Heaven! I am euphoric... perhaps Obama's greatest accomplishment so far has been his ability to become even more polarizing than George W. Bush. This is no small feat and he did it in record time.

" ... sweet dreams are made of this
who am I to disagree." Annie Lennox (Eurythmics)


The Obama honeymoon is over. Let the divorce proceedings begin.

I offer for your consideration: a Sioux named Boy.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Rice wasn't all that of a yes girl, there are things that even John Bolton ripped into her about.

You do the bidding of your boss, that is the way it is supposed to be. Powell and Hillary for that matter are both too strong of individuals to be controlled, Rice knew how to be effective and like Bolton at the UN, she had gained a lot more respect than Albright (who was a joke), Christopher and even Powell. I thought it was really bad form and unethical to speak out of turn as Powell did after he left. Hillary who had no diplomatic experience and is really an embarrassment to the country, has been throwing around demands and working behind the scenes to try to force respect from other leaders and countries. This was proven this past week with several issues in Africa - like in the Congo with the student asking what Bill thinks and some of the response to her "demands". It was funny to see her anger at the question and the student of course made a mistake..... sure....

Never did anything on her own? you are kidding, right?

Look at her resume, she didn't get her degrees like others in this administration.

Some people don't want to deal with the politics and some others feel that they did their job and now it is time to leave with the administration.

oh sure she has degrees out the kazoo...but shes an administrator not a politician or we'd hear more from here...
 

layoutshooter

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Hey OVM, is NOT being a politition a BAD thing? I happen to thing that is EXACTLY what we need in our elected positions, NO CAREER POLITITIONS!! Let's get real people, who have led accomplished lives in the REAL world. THEN maybe we could get some REAL world fixes for the REAL world challenges that we face a a country. Career polititions do NOT live in the REAL world, they live in GAGA land!!
 

chefdennis

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This article sayes it all very well....

A failed, single term?

Jeffrey T. Kuhner


President Obama is on the way to joining an exclusive club. It is the club of failed one-term presidents.

During the presidential campaign, Mr. Obama sold himself as a pragmatic moderate. In fact, he is the very opposite. He is an internationalist socialist whose policies will lead to ruin at home and defeat abroad. They will also doom his re-election efforts. He is flirting with political disaster.

Despite his many flaws, former President Bill Clinton established the model for successful Democratic administrations. Mr. Clinton governed as a liberal centrist. He realized that veering too far to the left early in his presidency was detrimental: His support of Hillarycare and gays in the military resulted in the 1994 Republican takeover of Congress. Mr. Clinton changed course by embracing free trade, welfare reform and balanced budgets -- combining fiscal responsibility and social liberalism. This formula prevented the Republican Party from recapturing the White House in 1996.

Mr. Obama is the anti-Clinton. He is a leftist ideologue who has surrounded himself with radical and inept advisers. Mr. Clinton had political counselor Dick Morris and Treasury Secretary Robert E. Rubin. Mr. Obama has David Axelrod and Timothy F. Geithner.

As a result, Mr. Obama's presidency is starting to look like the worst in 100 years. His $787 billion fiscal stimulus has failed to restore economic recovery. Unemployment remains high. Growth is anemic.

His massive spending is projected to yield record budget deficits of $1.8 trillion this year and $1.3 trillion next year. Over the next decade, according to the Obama administration's own estimates, the debt will explode by more than $10 trillion. These soaring deficits threaten to cripple our long-term prosperity and economic security. No country has sustained this kind of massive borrowing and spending without becoming a second-class nation. America is going the way of Argentina.

Mr. Obama's government-run health care plan is too expensive: It will saddle taxpayers with more than $1 trillion in costs. If enacted, it will do what socialized medicine has always done: ration care, extend waiting lines to visit a doctor and deny lifesaving, costly treatment to those deemed the weakest and most unproductive members of society -- the elderly. It is why so many seniors rightly oppose Obamacare.

National health care will force Mr. Obama to break his tax pledge. His signature campaign promise was not to raise taxes on families making less than $250,000 a year. However, Mr. Obama has boxed himself in, vowing that any health-insurance overhaul must be paid for without adding to the deficit. Hence, his administration is exploring soak-the-rich schemes such as higher income and capital gains taxes and a "wealth surtax." The problem remains that even these policies can't generate nearly enough revenue to fund Mr. Obama's ambitious expansion of the welfare-entitlement state.

This leaves him with only one option -- raising taxes on the middle and working classes. Already, key administration officials are considering a 10-percent national sales tax, also known as a value-added tax (VAT). In other words, a European-style health care system inevitably leads to European-level taxation -- and, consequently, European-style high unemployment and low growth rates.

Mr. Obama's energy policies will also undermine the economy. If passed, his cap-and-trade initiative will impose huge indirect taxes on businesses. It will punish manufacturing, oil-producing and coal states. Its goal is to increase the costs of gas and electricity, thereby discouraging their use.

Consumers will be paying more not only at the pump but also on everything from food to heating and electric bills. Mr. Obama's green socialism threatens to erode our standard of living, trigger skyrocketing inflation and stunt job creation.

Yet, the biggest danger is in foreign policy. Mr. Obama is pouring another 21,000 U.S. troops into Afghanistan. American forces are bogged down in a protracted guerilla campaign. The Taliban are resurgent. They have reclaimed their stronghold around the southern city of Kandahar. Insurgents are waging bold and deadly attacks even in the northern and western parts of the country -- formerly stable areas. The fighting is spreading, U.S. casualties are soaring, and public support for the war is ebbing.

The problem in Afghanistan is that terrorists are able to blend in with the native population. American soldiers find it increasingly difficult to distinguish civilians from combatants. The administration does not have a coherent counterinsurgency strategy. Hence, the Taliban are winning, and Washington is clueless on how to change the grim results on the ground.

Mr. Obama is frequently portrayed as the heir to Franklin D. Roosevelt. The more apt analogy, however, is Lyndon Baines Johnson. Just like Mr. Obama, President Johnson believed he could have guns and butter. He sought to implement the Great Society while escalating America's military involvement in Southeast Asia. Unable to choose, Mr. Johnson lost both: His domestic agenda and prosecution of the Vietnam War proved to be disastrous. His reckless ambition reduced his administration to political rubble, costing him any chance for re-election in 1968. This is why he (smartly) decided not to run again.

Social democracy and interventionist nation-building do not work. They destroyed the Johnson presidency and are on the verge of destroying Mr. Obama's as well.

Jeffrey T. Kuhner is a columnist at The Washington Times and president of the Edmund Burke Institute, a Washington-based think tank.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...le-term/print/
 

OntarioVanMan

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most of what was posted is at this date gobbly gook....it isn't failed yet...what instant results?..it takes more then 60 days to see any tangible results...I am not saying there is going to be any or it may turn out like that...but gee whiz...and if the healthcare does not go thru that chops about 1/3 the estimated deficit..
 
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