Note to newbies about guns in truck !

[idtrans]

The other day I pulled a load from a government location in Texas and they search your van, truck or what ever thing your driving well the van in front of me "I will not mention his company" The guards got him out of van and then slammed him against the van LOL kinda funny in a way well they helpd him and then the guards went into the van and got out of his bag a pistol. They waved me around and checked me out also LOL all I have is a pocket knife and a maltipoo dog.

On the way out I asked the security what was up and they said he thought because he had a concealed carry permit for his state that he could carry guns anywhere he wanted and the guards said they do not mind but you must tell them asap and then they will secure the firearm until you get out.

But with that being said even with a concealed weapon permit you can not have a firearm in your commercial vehicle at all.

BTW the only way I know you may have the firearm is if your a retired pensioned peace officer and your department permits retirees to carry a firearm and you must qualify 1 time a year with your carry weapon and even with that said still no firearms into canada, mexico, and no state or federal facilities and many of the clients that we all get cargo from.

SO my advice to those of you that have a gun in your van is just be smart when your on the road and drive smart and avoid getting out of the van in a dangerous place.

I have driven close to if not over 1 million miles and so far only 1 time got into a nasty situation and I handled it like a gentleman I drove straight at the thugs with my volvo tractor and they like good thugs ran like hell LOL. I made a wrong turn in baltimore back in 1996 and t wasn't a very nice place I landed I didn't know I was following my silly atlas.

Be safe everyone and now with bad weather approaching be extra careful and extra safe driving.

 

[greg334]

Well I think there are signs that say NO FIRE ARMS.

Nevertheless, this is an ongoing discussion, some think you can while others don't.

Dividing it up, there is not a reason I can think of to carry one. BUT on the other hand a lot of the former men in blue still carry and think they can everywhere.

I know one state who still will not recognize an OOS permit - New Jersey regardless who you are.

 

[garebel]

a flare pistol is what some carry,,is that maybe legal??

 

[AMonger]

The other day I pulled a load from a government location in Texas and they search your van, truck or what ever thing your driving well the van in front of me "I will not mention his company" The guards got him out of van and then slammed him against the van LOL kinda funny in a way well they helpd him and then the guards went into the van and got out of his bag a pistol. They waved me around and checked me out also LOL all I have is a pocket knife and a maltipoo dog. {/QUOTE]

I don't want to be a jackball but your messages would be easier to read if you used punctuation in appropriate places. Complete sentences are preferred, too.

But with that being said even with a concealed weapon permit you can not have a firearm in your commercial vehicle at all.

A common misconception, and one that I believed at one time. I was listening to a trucking radio show on one of the satellite channels, and the topic of firearms in commercial vehicles came up. The caller said he checked the regs, and found no blanket prohibition on firearms in the green and white book. So the call went out for lawyers, and, well, this was a few years ago, so I don't remember the particulars of the segment, but a lawyer was consulted, and no one has found such a blanket prohibition. The topic was continued on subsequent shows, too.

On this board, someone did post regs that suggested that carrying the AMMO might be a violation of hazmat regs. That might be something to look into. But the bottom line is that man has an inherent right to be armed on public property. Private property opens another can of worms.

BTW the only way I know you may have the firearm is if your a retired pensioned peace officer and your department permits retirees to carry a firearm and you must qualify 1 time a year with your carry weapon

All that varies from state to state.

SO my advice to those of you that have a gun in your van is just be smart when your on the road and drive smart and avoid getting out of the van in a dangerous place.

Gee, I just love relying on that strategy for my safety...

Before I started driving, a trucker told me that he carries a gun in his truck. His wife objected, saying, "If you fire that, you're going to be in trouble." He replied, "If I fire it, it's because I'm already in trouble." Who's more sensible?

 

[idtrans]

Sorry I write like crap ! I set my goals in life low so I could reach my goals hauling freight is my goal LOL

And I must say it would be nice to have a gun in the van but not needed if you use your head while out. And that is coming from someone that likes guns allot and is not against firearms at all.

Ok ttyl later

The other day I pulled a load from a government location in Texas and they search your van, truck or what ever thing your driving well the van in front of me "I will not mention his company" The guards got him out of van and then slammed him against the van LOL kinda funny in a way well they helpd him and then the guards went into the van and got out of his bag a pistol. They waved me around and checked me out also LOL all I have is a pocket knife and a maltipoo dog. {/QUOTE]

I don't want to be a jackball but your messages would be easier to read if you used punctuation in appropriate places. Complete sentences are preferred, too.



A common misconception, and one that I believed at one time. I was listening to a trucking radio show on one of the satellite channels, and the topic of firearms in commercial vehicles came up. The caller said he checked the regs, and found no blanket prohibition on firearms in the green and white book. So the call went out for lawyers, and, well, this was a few years ago, so I don't remember the particulars of the segment, but a lawyer was consulted, and no one has found such a blanket prohibition. The topic was continued on subsequent shows, too.

On this board, someone did post regs that suggested that carrying the AMMO might be a violation of hazmat regs. That might be something to look into. But the bottom line is that man has an inherent right to be armed on public property. Private property opens another can of worms.


All that varies from state to state.



Gee, I just love relying on that strategy for my safety...

Before I started driving, a trucker told me that he carries a gun in his truck. His wife objected, saying, "If you fire that, you're going to be in trouble." He replied, "If I fire it, it's because I'm already in trouble." Who's more sensible?

 

[AMonger]

And I must say it would be nice to have a gun in the van but not needed if you use your head while out.

That reminds me of a radio commercial. It's a silly sing-song in which a comic voice sings, "Driving in my car beep-beep, obeying the law sure is sweet..." Then there's a part I don't remember, and it continues, "Oh, look here comes another car, plenty of time to get out of the way."

The voice over says, something to the effect of, "But that's not how it happens. It really goes like this:"

The song starts again, only this time with a horrific crash between the first and second beep, and the commercial continues with points about the sudden and unplanned nature of accidents, even if you're doing everything right. As we know from our defensive driving courses, you can't plan on everyone to drive reasonably and safely, so professional drivers expect the other guy to make mistakes and allow for it.

That's kind of like how it is in regard to carrying a gun to defend one's self. You may be doing everything right, minding your own business, not looking for trouble, keeping your eyes open, and staying out of the wrong side of town. But a guy snaps and walks into the Panera Bread where you're sitting for net access, or a gangbanger or car jacker goes over to the side of town where you're delivering, and now you've got a life-or-death sitchyashun, as Roy D. Mercer puts it, on your hands, through no fault or choice of your own. So regardless of your good intentions and avoiding bad neighborhoods, the situation can be thrust on you.

I remember a horrific shooting taking place at a mall in Omaha a few years back. Here's the wiki on it: Westroads Mall shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm sure that most or all of the victims didn't think there'd be any need for them to fear for their lives that day. Things happen that you can't foresee despite your best efforts, including car crashes, illnesses, breakdowns, and violent crime. Some of them we mitigate with insurance. Others, well...

 

[chefdennis]

And we all know our pickups and deliveries are ALWAYS in the best parts of town....and gettin to them NEVER takes us through 'questionable" area's....

 

[LDB]

The Constitution should trump anything else, at least in a proper world.

 

[cheri1122]

But the right to bear arms gets trumped by states' rights, lack of reciprocity honoring CCWs, and private/public places forbidding weapons, which leaves us almost literally defenseless. If we could carry concealed, I certainly would!

 

[greg334]

I get a good laugh off of this.

I'm sorry but I don't want the trucking crowd to be armed for any reason.

Maybe the expediter in all of you are controlled (well maybe not a few of you) but you know the crap that goes on in truck stops and on the road with these idiots, imagine if they were armed.

Just the road rage with some of these low life idiots would be out of control.

Defenseless?

Well how many of you took training enough to use a weapon in close quarters?

Not many I bet.

What if you had a weapon and you were struggling with someone and it went off?

The best defense is being aware of whats going on around you.

 

[chefdennis]

And you actually believe that most of the trucks running up and down the roads of this country don't have firearms in them.....of course then again most of those that are shouldn't be and won't admit it.....

 

[greg334]

Not at all, I think a lot carry but those are not the ones I worry about, I worry about some who read that it is needed because how dangerous it is out there and don't have a frikn' clue, think they are god in the cab and are dangerous just driving.

 

[chefdennis]

LOL, I think you can rest assured that those that you DO worry about are probably carrying too....and probably more so then those you shouldn't worry about, just because of the nature of those you described...

 

[dancorn]

I carry a can of wasp spray in place of a gun. It has several uses. Sure wouldn't want to to be on the receiving end of it's 20 foot spray.
P.S. It is also cheap and legal to carry anywhere.

 

[idtrans]

LOL cool but when you end up spraying in your van be ready to eat some or get it in your eyes also ! Because most fire fights are with in 8 to 10 feet or in very closed quarters.

I just do not want the legal head aches if I did have to use the gun WTF that would be a legal nightmare **** near cheaper to just get robbed or hurt. Sad that good legal citizens have to think like this !

But I do have a crow bar and I know how to use it good ;-)

Off to the gym I go yippy burn some fat and get the muscles fed well !

I carry a can of wasp spray in place of a gun. It has several uses. Sure wouldn't want to to be on the receiving end of it's 20 foot spray.
P.S. It is also cheap and legal to carry anywhere.

 

[chefdennis]

idtrans wrote:

I just do not want the legal head aches if I did have to use the gun WTF that would be a legal nightmare **** near cheaper to just get robbed or hurt. Sad that good legal citizens have to think like this !

How does the saying go:

"I'd rather be judged by 12, then carried out by 6...."

But I guess some are ok with being a victim and letting the "bad guys" get away ....

 

[skyraider]

I to have a gun permit and most of the states Im in have reciprocity and so on, but I elect not to carry it. In fact i haven't carried it for years. When I went to renew the permit a few months ago, I told the lady at the window that I never carry it. She commenced to tell me nicely I should carry it period. The permit instructor I had said the best way to avoid a gun fight if u can is to run. Yep, If ur partially disable, u can't run and maybe u are to weak physically to fight,,so yea,,carry ur pistol. Its a personal call,,,to shoot or not to shoot, to run away if u can, but if ur disabled, and cant run,,,shoot the b..ards.

 

[Dakota]

Well I think there are signs that say NO FIRE ARMS.

Nevertheless, this is an ongoing discussion, some think you can while others don't.

Dividing it up, there is not a reason I can think of to carry one. BUT on the other hand a lot of the former men in blue still carry and think they can everywhere.

I know one state who still will not recognize an OOS permit - New Jersey regardless who you are.

New Jersey has weird gun laws, they sent me to Atlantic City to work on the armored trucks there, There own employees had a problem getting gun permits, even the bank guards were unarmed, I felt like the Lone Ranger with my .38 special. Three guys on the armored truck and I was the only one armed at the casino pickups, even the casino guards were unarmed.
Law Enforcement and armored truck employees are the only one allow to carry guns.

 

[AMonger]

I get a good laugh off of this.

I'm sorry but I don't want the trucking crowd to be armed for any reason.

Good thing people's rights aren't determined by what you want. The Bill of Rights are human rights.

 

[AMonger]

I carry a can of wasp spray in place of a gun. It has several uses. Sure wouldn't want to to be on the receiving end of it's 20 foot spray.
P.S. It is also cheap and legal to carry anywhere.

Some states are aware that some use wasp spray for defense and have outlawed that as a use, like the People's Republic of California, iirc. Then there's also the federal law against using such a product inconsistent with its label directions. And I've also heard that its effectiveness as a self defense tool is exaggerated.