May Day protests coming this weekend

[LDB]

Or is it that we are ignoring the laws and rules to compensate our society's needs for so called compassion at any cost to a lesser degree and to a larger degree we are importing/cultivating/buying/bribing lib/dem votes to cement an insurmountable majority?

 

[greg334]

Or is it that we are ignoring the laws and rules to compensate our society's needs for so called compassion at any cost to a lesser degree and to a larger degree we are importing/cultivating/buying/bribing lib/dem votes to cement an insurmountable majority?

But Leo, I don't agree with that.

Between the FILL IN THE BLANK church and both parties, they both cultivate a need to correct the wrongs of our immigration system in order to gain more power and money.

It isn't just a liberal/democrat thing, it is a political thing and goes back to who can actually stand there and be honest about issues?

The latest two events by the repubs show a few disturbing things and makes it look doubtful that they can pull off winning in 2010 elections. The first one is Crist leaving the republican party and running for senator as an independent. This shows he is not branching out for much more than to ensure his winning for a spot he feels he deserves. The other is the backing down on the banking/wall street reform issue, where the repubs seemed to be finally united behind a cause and then **POOF** it was gone.

So back to immigration, I expect to see the same thing happen with any and all immigratgion reform as it has back a few years ago. I expect the repubs will again play the game, be blamed for not being compasionate and we, the people will get screwed again.

 

[LDB]

I don't know why the repubs dropped the finance thing, makes no sense. Crist though is not the repub party, it's Crist not giving a **** about anything but himself. We will get screwed no matter what. The only question is how badly I suspect.

 

[RLENT]

See, there's where jumping to conclusions and presuming negatively toward someone else is the wrong track.

LOL ..... now that's there is pretty funny ...... coming from you of all people ....

I never said the legal citizens wouldn't be allowed to return after hopefully learning a lesson.

Working on the spin-meister merit badge now are we ?

You said what you said:

"I'd like to send every one of the protesters on a one way trip to China or Cuba."

....but I never said they couldn't. That was just a conclusion jumped to incorrectly.

Not at all - it was implicit in what you said .... sending someone on a one way trip implies that they will not be returning .....

But I am glad to hear that you've re-thought the matter and at least decided that allowing citizens to return to their own country would be alright ....

 

[LDB]

Nothing changed. I'm just not paying for the return trip.

 

[AMonger]

This is setting up, with the blessings of Obama and Co. and the government in general, to bring on some sort of marshal law. Their plan to control the people is coming together.

The Ship of Fools being lead by an idiot Captain who is controlled and owned by who knows who or what? Wake up People!! There is little time left.

You ever wonder what you'd do if/when martial law is declared while you're 6 states away from home? Think of all the roadblocks and checkpoints you'd have to get through. Being a good American doesn't guarantee you'd be allowed to go home when you wanted.

 

[Turtle]

I never said the legal citizens wouldn't be allowed to return after hopefully learning a lesson.

Working on the spin-meister merit badge now are we ?

I don't know about a Spin-Meister Merit Badge, but I know when I read the above statement my first thought was, "Holy crap!!! Just what lesson is a legal citizen suppose to learn after being deported for exercising their constitutionally protected right in protesting their own government?"

Holy crap.
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[LDB]

That would be a lesson in comparative government and comparative living conditions. The lesson would hopefully be just how good things are here compared to the places fully immersed in the political system and lifestyle many of them espouse, contrary to their flawed beliefs.

 

[RLENT]

I don't know about a Spin-Meister Merit Badge, but I know when I read the above statement my first thought was, "Holy crap!!!

Indeed ...... the truly scary thing is there have been how many replies to this thread after Leo's initial post ...... and out of those, how many folks have condemned such idiocy ?

..... just two .....

Just what lesson is a legal citizen suppose to learn after being deported for exercising their constitutionally protected right in protesting their own government?"

Leo thinks it would be a lesson in comparative government and living conditions .... based on repeated postings, it is abundantly plain that Leo is a fan of "teaching people a lesson" ..... (ostensibly through the use of force ....)

I think the real lesson to be learned is that while there are many within this country that mouth claims to be for freedom, the Bill of Rights, and Constitution .... some of those making those claims are entirely too willing to throw all that under the bus, suppress free speech, and impose tyranny ....

I'm much more inclined to keep an eye those folks ..... than I am Pedro who is mowing my neighbors lawn .... or Juanita and her family who is running the local Mexican restaurant in town .....

Afterall: who is really the greater threat to my freedom ?

 

[AMonger]

Afterall: who is really the greater threat to my freedom ?

Ah, yes, the "Why trade 1 tyrant 1000 miles away for 100 tyrants 1 mile away?" question. Still a good question.

 

[Turtle]

Comparative government and comparative living conditions? That's scary. In a country world famous for their tyranny where the people aren't allowed to say anything against the government, a guy defiantly stared down a column of tanks in Tiananmen Square, and even he wasn't deported. Obama tries to silence his critics and you go ballistic, yet when people are saying or doing things you don't approve of, you want them deported just to teach them a lesson, even if they are a US citizen, just... like... you... and... me. Holy crap.

America - Shut Up or Leave It!

 

[AMonger]

You know, when I became politically aware, it was the Republicans who revered the Bill of Rights, the rule of law, the Constitution, etc. Again, during the 90s, during the Clinton administration, it was the left who were interested in curtailing rights while the right defended them.

What happened since then? What's with the role reversal? Sure, I know there have always been law-and-order conservatives who think that even Miranda rights amounts to coddling criminals, but in general...what's with the pole shift? With a wild-eyed, lunatic lefty in the White House, you'd think the Republicans would sound like champions of liberty again, but no...

I'm telling you, it's one guy with a puppet on each hand. You're just supposed to be fooled into thinking it's two different guys. One hand takes rights 1, 3, 5, 7, and 9; when the other hand puppet is in power, we lose 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10.

 

[LDB]

Deported = not allowed back. Only the criminal aliens in the group would be deported. The rest can come back whenever they want, as already stated but then it's not about that it's about taking it out of context. Had I chosen to offer them an all expense paid educational safari to another land with alternate systems it would be all happy and special.

 

[greg334]

I think the effort that is put into a lot of the rhetorice can be better used to fight for bigger and better things, like maybe the border.

It doesn't matter about the protests, it doesn't matter about the law, until the border is just that, a border, then we will repeat this over and over and over.

As pointed out, the comments of the few are scary. I heard a lot of it yesterday and this morning, some of it was rather off the wall but I don't buy their position as much as I don't by the opposing point of view.

 

[RLENT]

I'm telling you, it's one guy with a puppet on each hand. You're just supposed to be fooled into thinking it's two different guys. One hand takes rights 1, 3, 5, 7, and 9; when the other hand puppet is in power, we lose 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10.

You speak soothe

As long as one can polarize people into (at least) two opposing camps you will have them functionally at war with each other.

Sounds like a good way to retain power and keep folks busy busy busy to me .......

 

[RLENT]

Ah, yes, the "Why trade 1 tyrant 1000 miles away for 100 tyrants 1 mile away?" question. Still a good question.

Yup - although it should really read as follows :

"Why trade 1 tyrant 1000 miles away for 100 petty tyrants 1 mile away?"

 

[chefdennis]

I want to know who Organized 70 protest marches in such short notice....who pulled the permits?? A bunch of mad illegals??

Try LaRaza and the SEIU months ago...this ha been in the planning along time, it has nothing to do with the Arizona Bill...