Job listings in Chattanooga , tn.

[paullud]

The idea of lines around the block for a job fair is nothing new and not a sign if the times, the media likes the story though so they run it. I have been to job fairs during low unemployment rates and there were long lines and crowds of people seeking more money, a better job, or just a job.

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[layoutshooter]

Stood in LOTS of long live for work when I got out of the Army in '73. This has happened before and will happen again. All this massive government spending is going to prolong the mess for quite awhile.

 

[cheri1122]

P: it wasn't meant as a sign of the times, but an indication of the fact that people want to work, and even people who are working usually want to do better.
Today's problems don't stem from people who don't want to work, is my point. The problems will never get better if we can't even figure out what they actually are.

 

[layoutshooter]

We KNOW what the problems are. Overspending by government. Government interference in commerce. Government subsidies of faulty products. Government subsidies of ANYTHING. Over taxation. Over regulation.

That is the the starting list.

In other words, government is the CAUSE of the problems, not the solution.

The BIGGEST problem? Again caused by government that will destroy business and personal drive? Loss of FREEDOM.

 

[bobwg]

P: it wasn't meant as a sign of the times, but an indication of the fact that people want to work, and even people who are working usually want to do better.
Today's problems don't stem from people who don't want to work, is my point. The problems will never get better if we can't even figure out what they actually are.

Standing in lines for job fairs, etc does not counter the fact there are people who dont want to work but rather keep collecting the govt check and sitting on their rears needs to be a time limit for getting govt money

 

[layoutshooter]

NOTHING is stopping them from getting off their lazy butts and moving to where there IS work either. PLEASE don't tell me how HARD it is either, I did it, my father did it, my grandparents left Europe and moved here for work. It is just time to put up, or shut up. Don't have any skills? GET SOME. I did it, my dad did it, my grandparents did it. Can't, or won't, speak English? TOUGH! LEARN it. MILLIONS did, like my grandparents.

 

[aristotle]

More than ever, we live in global economy and must compete with cheap labor from all over the world. The unemployed, but highly skilled, machinist in Ohio or Michigan might not realize the work he was doing previously is now being done at one-fourth the labor cost in India or China or the Philippines. The globalization of labor and production has a leveling effect. The poor worker in Bangladesh might see his income rise slightly as American or European corporations move in search of lower labor costs. The American worker, however, will see his standard of living decline as the supply of homegrown labor exceeds demand.

Here in the United States, our government is actually a great hindrance to job growth. How can we expect to compete in a global environment when we are saddled with high taxation, over-zealous regulatory agencies and busybodies from the government desperately involved in every minute detail of labor and production? As government grows, opportunity is diminished. Take Obama's War on Coal: the abundance of coal has given us cheap electricity for the past one hundred years. When electricity rates skyrocket, more industries will move abroad.

 

[cheri1122]

More than ever, we live in global economy and must compete with cheap labor from all over the world. The unemployed, but highly skilled, machinist in Ohio or Michigan might not realize the work he was doing previously is now being done at one-fourth the labor cost in India or China or the Philippines. The globalization of labor and production has a leveling effect. The poor worker in Bangladesh might see his income rise slightly as American or European corporations move in search of lower labor costs. The American worker, however, will see his standard of living decline as the supply of homegrown labor exceeds demand.

Here in the United States, our government is actually a great hindrance to job growth. How can we expect to compete in a global environment when we are saddled with high taxation, over-zealous regulatory agencies and busybodies from the government desperately involved in every minute detail of labor and production? As government grows, opportunity is diminished. Take Obama's War on Coal: the abundance of coal has given us cheap electricity for the past one hundred years. When electricity rates skyrocket, more industries will move abroad.

Cheap electricity has cost a lot in terms of a clean environment, the health and safety [and lives] of people who work in the mines and those who just live nearby, and even if it were clean and safe - it's a finite resource. When do we consider what to do when it's gone?
all the 'global' comparisons cite taxes and wages and profits, but some of us care about the environment, and the health and safety of people who work for a living, too. [Even if only because we know that just letting them die of hunger & exposure or untreated injuries isn't a choice we want to make on down the road.]
Remember when the government DIDN'T intervene in safety issues with the mining industry? Do you suppose that safety would overrule the profit motive if the government backed off? Because it never has yet. Actually, it still doesn't - I had friends working in the Texas oilfields and shipyards, and they knew about the safety procedures that weren't followed, but they kept their mouths shut to keep their jobs. They wanted to work, and that leads management to take advantage.
I don't know the answers to competing in a global economy - but I wonder why the conversation is always about the sacrifices the working people will have to make, and never about the sacrifice in profits that might lessen the burden on those who barely get by as it is.
IOW: when profit overrides the moral obligations of a society, civilization is doomed. We're getting there....

 

[layoutshooter]

Laziness and dependence are the two things that will dome society faster than anything and our government both encourages and subsidizes both.

 

[aristotle]

We have an estimated 200 years reserve of unmined coal in the United States. Lots of time to work on replacement alternatives. We have to balance present needs against future wishes. Presently, we have an abundance of coal. Clean coal technology improves steadily as does mining safety. Coal mining jobs pay well. Somewhere in the range of $67,000 annually on average. Not only does coal mining provide good jobs, but coal gives the United States fairly cheap electricity rates. It is a competitive advantage for American families and industries to have affordable electricity. If we think the doubling and tripling of gasoline prices sent a shock through the American economy, imagine what a doubling of electricity rates will do.

 

[Brisco]

But that aside, I just can't go along with supporting people forever. And in Cheri's example, that is essentially what we are talking about if we say people can't do anything for lack of childcare or transportation. Sometimes people have to move to where the work is. Sometimes one has to work two jobs to get going. If they are buying xboxes, big screens, iphones, and all the other stuff, my guess is the majority on assistance can find a way to move. It is a matter of taking some initiative. I have no problem helping someone who fell on hard times, but after a year, you got to cut it off. Assistance is to help people, not provide a lifestyle.

From reading all the blue ink in this thread......it shows very strongly that one person here wants the employer she and others works for to provide the necessary means to accommodate the choices of lifestyles she and others are making in their lives.

Doesn't quite work that way.......

If it did, all I want to do is work 10-15 hours a week to cover the expenses that my $250,000 House and 2012 Corvette has brought into my lifestyle.

Don't have Transportation to a certain Job.....Find a Job close to public transportation. Certain Job does not cover childcare costs......find a more reasonable childcare provider that your current income can afford. Get a second Job that will help cover expenses. Work your way up, apply yourself, and continue bettering yourself and lifestyle to have those things you wish for.

 

[Brisco]

Post deleted above cause for some reason original post double-posted. (An old LayOut Moment!)

 

[davekc]

I will throw a couple of things out there. Cheri has some good points but getting to the solutions are the problems. We are currently borrowing to keep the entitlement programs afloat. We have no money except what we print which makes the poor even poorer. We have thrown billions at it and the poor increase.
As mentioned, a global economy is driving lower wages just like 4.00 for a gallon gas. Blame or take from the rich isn't going to get you there. Taking every dollar they have, and you are still way short on just paying the interest.

With regards to coal, EPA acted like total fools that will screw businesses and the poor guy. The alternative is there in natural gas. Should have that in place BEFORE you pull the plug on the coal industry. Just common sense. But of course that goes out the window when political agendas enter.

With regards to childcare, might be a good idea to network your options as finding childcare, swap with someone else in the same circumstances or become a childcare provider yourself. I see ads all the time provided by churches that do it for free. One has to utilize their resources.

One thing for sure if inflation keeps climbing. The poor will be getting poorer. They better wake up and get something going. The longer they wait the harder it will become.

 

[aristotle]

Natural gas will be cheap only so long as it has to compete with coal. The moment natural gas has no rival, the price of natural gas will increase dramatically. It is in our national interest to use all available sources of energy. Let the free market pick winners and losers.

 

[layoutshooter]

Natural gas will be cheap only so long as it has to compete with coal. The moment natural gas has no rival, the price of natural gas will increase dramatically. It is in our national interest to use all available sources of energy. Let the free market pick winners and losers.

Correct, but government is not allowing that to happen. Government is the CAUSE of high energy costs AND the primary reason that better sources are not being found or developed.

 

[davekc]

There is no question that natural gas will go up if it becomes the only supply. Higher than coal? It depends on many things as to how fast and to what price. It would be cleaner if that is the argument.
Again, the little guy is the one that will be impacted the most. That is why the "lets grow the economy from the middle class out" is beyond goofy. Where is the middle class going to get this money to create jobs?
Have to go where the money is currently and have policies that promote investment.

 

[Turtle]

Where is the middle class going to get this money to create jobs?

Especially since the middle class currently accounts for a minuscule percentage of the population.

 

[davekc]

You got it! Bingo!

 

[OntarioVanMan]

And some not so smart ones that cheered when 10's of thousands of auto workers wages and benefits got cut back , effectively taking billions of dollars out of the economy,

 

[layoutshooter]

And some not so smart ones that cheered when 10's of thousands of auto workers wages and benefits got cut back , effectively taking billions of dollars out of the economy,

That was going to happen no matter what. Those overly high wage and benefit costs, along with the high cost of government mandates on cars, has driven the price of the cars out of reach of many people. It would seem that the workers were the not so smart ones demanding wages and benefits that could not be sustained in the market place. It would ALSO seem that the auto companies were not so smart by agreeing to pay them those wages.

I worked on those lines for a little while. That work is FAR from rocket science. It is zombie work. Worker bee stuff. They were, and in many cases still are, overpaid for the work they do.