How many days are u sitting at one location

zero3nine

Veteran Expediter
ok, plan b cv drivers, take a rule, draw a line straight north to south thru Kansas. Stay east of that line , no more Texas n a cv. No Florida either, thats it.:D

There is going to be a whole lot of new action in Kansas in the next few years.

fired at you from my Droideka
 

DannyD

Veteran Expediter
What you're going thru is part of what many go thru & that's why in some cases there seems to be that eternal search for the perfect company.

I've always been sort of a homing pigeon. If I was getting runs I'd be fine going from point A to B to C, etc. If the runs weren't there often I'd head home & start again.

The runs to Minn or KC, where I'd sit for a day, head to Chicago or StL, sit for another day, & eventually come home empty didn't make sense to keep taking.

Generally I'd wait a day in an area. My logic is if there wasn't anything that day, nothing would make me think there'd be something the next. Not always the best business decision I know.

In terms of areas, this was by trial & error, but nothing west of the Mississippi unless it pays enough to come back even if I get nothing (like KC) or it takes me all the way to either Phoenix or Denver. In those places I have friends & family so I wouldn't care if I didn't get a run right out. I've come on here before & asked those very same type Q's about what areas are hot & which to avoid.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Sky, this is not a "shot" at you at all...but sitting anywhere for 5 days is just crazy...My rule of thumb in the past has been tat dispatch had 36 hour (excluding sat and sun) to get me moving or I was moving myself even if it was on my own dime...Now that has changed a bit since my current carrier pays me to sit in one area for 48 hrs before they pay me to move and they ask us to sit for the 48 hrs so they can have a chance to find something....

The key to waiting for me was learning where the carrier i was with has a history of getting regular loads and positioning myself in those areas...Just because you haul freight into an area, doesn't mean you are going to get loaded out of there...Moving right after dropping sometimes needs to be done asap....

One thing to keep in mind when looking where to move is that most carriers are looking for freight ou about 100 miles...so you have sat 3 days and got nothing...if you are going to move that move probably needs to be outside of the 100 miles they have already been working for the last 3 days...I would normaly call and ask, "where are you seeing freight movement" that you have figured was too far for me to dead head to??

It cost money to sit, so does moving, but once you weight the opportunites that may come from a 150- 200 mile move, chances are you will be ahead in the big picture....

Just my dimes worth, for what it is worth...

Oh and as was posted above, KC just might become a reallly hot bed for freight in the coming future....
 

ChrisGa23

Expert Expediter
Sky, this is not a "shot" at you at all...but sitting anywhere for 5 days is just crazy...My rule of thumb in the past has been tat dispatch had 36 hour (excluding sat and sun) to get me moving or I was moving myself even if it was on my own dime...Now that has changed a bit since my current carrier pays me to sit in one area for 48 hrs before they pay me to move and they ask us to sit for the 48 hrs so they can have a chance to find something....

The key to waiting for me was learning where the carrier i was with has a history of getting regular loads and positioning myself in those areas...Just because you haul freight into an area, doesn't mean you are going to get loaded out of there...Moving right after dropping sometimes needs to be done asap....

One thing to keep in mind when looking where to move is that most carriers are looking for freight ou about 100 miles...so you have sat 3 days and got nothing...if you are going to move that move probably needs to be outside of the 100 miles they have already been working for the last 3 days...I would normaly call and ask, "where are you seeing freight movement" that you have figured was too far for me to dead head to??

It cost money to sit, so does moving, but once you weight the opportunites that may come from a 150- 200 mile move, chances are you will be ahead in the big picture....

Just my dimes worth, for what it is worth...

Oh and as was posted above, KC just might become a reallly hot bed for freight in the coming future....


Very true what you just posted. I normally do 3 days max and I move. And like you said if you sit you lose money. If you move and dh to better area you lose money but you got a greater chance for a load so you can keep moving. I would rather lose money deadheading to a better area :confused:
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
Sky, this is not a "shot" at you at all...but sitting anywhere for 5 days is just crazy...My rule of thumb in the past has been tat dispatch had 36 hour (excluding sat and sun) to get me moving or I was moving myself even if it was on my own dime...Now that has changed a bit since my current carrier pays me to sit in one area for 48 hrs before they pay me to move and they ask us to sit for the 48 hrs so they can have a chance to find something....

The key to waiting for me was learning where the carrier i was with has a history of getting regular loads and positioning myself in those areas...Just because you haul freight into an area, doesn't mean you are going to get loaded out of there...Moving right after dropping sometimes needs to be done asap....

One thing to keep in mind when looking where to move is that most carriers are looking for freight ou about 100 miles...so you have sat 3 days and got nothing...if you are going to move that move probably needs to be outside of the 100 miles they have already been working for the last 3 days...I would normaly call and ask, "where are you seeing freight movement" that you have figured was too far for me to dead head to??

It cost money to sit, so does moving, but once you weight the opportunites that may come from a 150- 200 mile move, chances are you will be ahead in the big picture....

Just my dimes worth, for what it is worth...

Oh and as was posted above, KC just might become a reallly hot bed for freight in the coming future....

I hve been dh uo to 150 miles,,now that idea does work, then I got lazy, guess need to implement that again. sky
 

asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
I always circle the town in my atlas.....I have a system to mark it as a p/u or delivery.... after a while u get to see patterns...helps me in my decision on moving around .....

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skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
Sky, this is not a "shot" at you at all...but sitting anywhere for 5 days is just crazy...My rule of thumb in the past has been tat dispatch had 36 hour (excluding sat and sun) to get me moving or I was moving myself even if it was on my own dime...Now that has changed a bit since my current carrier pays me to sit in one area for 48 hrs before they pay me to move and they ask us to sit for the 48 hrs so they can have a chance to find something....

The key to waiting for me was learning where the carrier i was with has a history of getting regular loads and positioning myself in those areas...Just because you haul freight into an area, doesn't mean you are going to get loaded out of there...Moving right after dropping sometimes needs to be done asap....

One thing to keep in mind when looking where to move is that most carriers are looking for freight ou about 100 miles...so you have sat 3 days and got nothing...if you are going to move that move probably needs to be outside of the 100 miles they have already been working for the last 3 days...I would normaly call and ask, "where are you seeing freight movement" that you have figured was too far for me to dead head to??

It cost money to sit, so does moving, but once you weight the opportunites that may come from a 150- 200 mile move, chances are you will be ahead in the big picture....

Just my dimes worth, for what it is worth...

Oh and as was posted above, KC just might become a reallly hot bed for freight in the coming future....

I have learned the sitting thing is stupid, but dont tell all those 18 + van drivers that sitting in Laredo and the other 50 or so sittiing in Dallas. No More van conventions 4 me, stealthy is the new word now.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Sky, the key is keeping track of your drops and PU's and then positioning yourself in the best area to take advantage of available freight...BUT, even that can be a "crap shoot" at times...but sitting for 5 days is just crazy...
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
I'm trying to figure what's well written.

If you are independent enough to make your own work come to you, why would you worry about what others say. Are you such a person you can't tell them just to go away if it affects your mental well being?

On the other hand, many are dependent on what their company brings to them and most of the time in order for you to see that work, it is not what you do to gain it (because you can't do a thing to gain it) but being in the right place at the right time for that right load - LUCK.

Many successful expediters will (AND have) argue(d) the point that LUCK has nothing to do with it but they are so wrong and they won't actually tell others how they get the work or what makes them stand out.

I would offer this bit of advice - most of the time you can't do a thing about why you are not getting any offers, but you can figure out how to hedge the slow times or those times when you have no work by understanding your financial needs and cutting costs. Just sitting there stewing about what you are doing wrong is somewhat outside of reality in this business, especially when you work for a company they limits your information and access to work. Deal with your business, find out where you can go to get freight that your company handles and than stay within those areas at the same time not to be afraid of taking chances to find better ways to operate because all of it has to do with that important factor they call LUCK.

At the moment, Im out of serviced till the end of the month, having the van worked on, tuneup, clean and reinstall injectors,repair a dented door, and so on. Time for downtime, spring is on the way, freight will improve, am checking will my friends out here, they say its ok, but nothing to write home about.
 

BillChaffey

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Navy
IF, you play your cards right the FSC can be used to off set to any fuel price increase.;)
 

wombat52

Veteran Expediter
well glad to see i am not the only one going without loads at the moment but the crazy thing i will ask ok sitting here in chicago watching interstate wow truck after truck after truck are all these silly buggers just driving around burning up fuel.
hang on my bank manager on the phone no it is the cell phone companying wanting to know when they are getting paid lol .
once freight starts moving again i guess but i know my guys at load1 is looking hard for us

but back to more chatting i guess and work out will be a can of meatball and spag or toasted cheese and spam sandwiches tonight sitting here in the walmart
in chicago land il

wombat..
 

wombat52

Veteran Expediter
Sky, the key is keeping track of your drops and PU's and then positioning yourself in the best area to take advantage of available freight...BUT, even that can be a "crap shoot" at times...but sitting for 5 days is just crazy...

DENNIS nope sometime just got to sit sat for 4 days last weekend friday night saturday sunday monday in columbus oh but the price of fuel do not allow you to deadhead to much looking for the right place to sit so i know i just sit till the great guys & gals at L1 come up with that next paiding load
wombat
 
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