Hi I am new to this forum, and forgive me if this subject has already been discussed. I am wondering why Panther gives you a load offer and doesnt tell you up front they are using the Household movers guide program for a particular load? You find out after you have run at least part of the load, that your mileage and time are not adding up. So when I ask why I am 75, or 100 miles short, the standard answer I get from dispatch is that it is household movers guide. Seems to me, they should be upfront about shorting you miles. It is happening alot lately not just to me but others I have talked with on the subject. It has always been going on but then it eased up for awhile and now seems everyone I talk to about this seems to be getting zapped by it. I called OOIDA and found out some interesting information. One, the company must disclose what mileage program they are using IF YOU ASK. Two, they do not necessarily have to charge the customer the same miles they offer you. They can charge the customer what ever mileage they want to it is between the company and the customer. This doesn't seem fair to us as drivers and although unethical it may not be illegal sadly enough. So I guess what I am saying is why does Panther do this and aren't they concerned that we as drivers are being cheated out of miles and over the course of time lose a lot of money, and over the course of time will look for companies to drive for that do not have this policy. I know for a fact, because I worked for them, that Fed Ex Custom Critical does not do this, what ever your suggested mileage comes up on your QC is exactly what you get paid for. IMO, there is plenty of money to be made in this industry without cheating drivers out of 50 miles here, a hundred miles there etc etc etc. I see Panther monitors these posts so maybe we can get a truthful, however painful answer. In addition, those of you drivers with GPS can easily punch in the offer addresses and check before you accept the offer, how short the miles are going to be, but those of us who have not caught up with the times, or have GPS in our heads, unless we ask in advance, will not realize this until we add up the suggested miles after it is too late and have accepted the offer. Then again some of us who for whatever reason will accept the offer anyways, because we need the money, this is our only source of income, we get more miles than some companies do, we are complacent. If you take a ballpark figure, say 1500 trucks ,getting shorted on paid miles lets say an average of 30 miles per day to be fair, times an average of one dollar per mile to include all types of trucks, that comes out to 45,000 dollars per day out of your pockets, geez, not bad for the company, not so good for you! I know this is going to get some bad publicity, and some undies in a bunch, but just want see how many of you out there have the same questions. Thanks...:+