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Pilgrim

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This shows up in the headlines on the same day we hear the news about Chicago school teachers - who populate one of the nation's worst school systems - are on strike demanding a 30% raise over their $71K annual salaries and 5.5 hr workdays. This typifies the national mindset being encouraged by Barack Hussein Obama - "handfull of gimme, mouth full of much obliged". Just keep on spending more money for less productivity and see where it takes us.
 

paullud

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I would think compromise is much more likely after the feedback congress got last time.

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skyraider

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This shows up in the headlines on the same day we hear the news about Chicago school teachers - who populate one of the nation's worst school systems - are on strike demanding a 30% raise over their $71K annual salaries and 5.5 hr workdays. This typifies the national mindset being encouraged by Barack Hussein Obama - "handfull of gimme, mouth full of much obliged". Just keep on spending more money for less productivity and see where it takes us.

Just start putting in place private schools one at a time, and go from there and start to eliminate government run schools with all its busing and red tape. Chattanooga has many fine private schools and never is there the bs that public schools have. Chicago, who needs public schools anyway, just get those private schools going asap,imho. Can anyone with proof say the governments DOE has been doing a good job in educating your child?????????? Ok , we won't hear from the 16,000 members and 25 top posters is not a majority................... There is no answer .
 

cubansammich

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This shows up in the headlines on the same day we hear the news about Chicago school teachers - who populate one of the nation's worst school systems - are on strike demanding a 30% raise over their $71K annual salaries and 5.5 hr workdays. This typifies the national mindset being encouraged by Barack Hussein Obama - "handfull of gimme, mouth full of much obliged". Just keep on spending more money for less productivity and see where it takes us.


I fail to see how demanding more money is a whole lot different than "say no to cheap freight".
 

xiggi

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I fail to see how demanding more money is a whole lot different than "say no to cheap freight".

You see no difference between public and private money, really? Np wonder this country is sinking fast.

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chefdennis

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I fail to see how demanding more money is a whole lot different than "say no to cheap freight".


Lets see, Cheap freight is paid for by with money from a "privately owned company"....teachers are paid with TAX DOLLARS.....

You are right Xiggi, the is no reason to wonder why this country is sinking...but as they say "ignorance is bliss"....:rolleyes:
 

cubansammich

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It matters little whether it is private or public money. The results are going to be the same. Workers work because they need to subsist. They couldn't care less where it comes from. How many expediters here move freight for both public and private sources? Do you suppose those individuals consider where the money is coming from when they accept or turn down a load? If anything there are many who would say, wow, a government load! Let's get em' for all we can. There might even be one or two individuals here who don't even pay taxes!

Can you imagine?
 

davekc

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It matters little whether it is private or public money. The results are going to be the same. Workers work because they need to subsist. They couldn't care less where it comes from. How many expediters here move freight for both public and private sources? Do you suppose those individuals consider where the money is coming from when they accept or turn down a load? If anything there are many who would say, wow, a government load! Let's get em' for all we can. There might even be one or two individuals here who don't even pay taxes!


Can you imagine?

Does make a difference. Private money is individuals risking their own money. Government has no money so they are taking and risking yours. Huge difference. If they are the same, then the government shouldn't be collecting taxes.
 

cubansammich

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Does make a difference. Private money is individuals risking their own money. Government has no money so they are taking and risking yours. Huge difference. If they are the same, then the government shouldn't be collecting taxes.

At ground level there is no effective difference where the money comes from. End recipients have little reason to care where the money originates so long as it is there when the work is completed. You are ultimately correct but in practical terms it is immaterial.
 

cubansammich

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You see no difference between public and private money, really? Np wonder this country is sinking fast.

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Actually I do but my focus is on a practical big picture.
 
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davekc

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Let me try it another way. If a private person/company had a investment that you knew was good, you would invest in that venture and make a profit. The government takes your money and invests in many things that you know up front are losers. Solyndra or the Volt comes to mind.
No.....you are paying at the ground level as well.
 

Turtle

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Let me try it another way. If a private person/company had a investment that you knew was good, you would invest in that venture and make a profit. The government takes your money and invests in many things that you know up front are losers. Solyndra or the Volt comes to mind.
No.....you are paying at the ground level as well.

By "ground level" he means the "me, my, mine, what's in it for me" level.
 

Pilgrim

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At ground level there is no effective difference where the money comes from. End recipients have little reason to care where the money originates so long as it is there when the work is completed. You are ultimately correct but in practical terms it is immaterial.
No doubt that a majority of the Greek population feels the same way. This is the viewpoint of the typical European socialist who has no concept of compensation being proportionate to productivity.
Actually I do but my focus is on a practical big picture.
One could easily argue that such a focus is the goal of the teachers' union - more money for less work.
 

bobwg

Expert Expediter
In a manner of speaking, yes. Those at ground level are looking to feed their family. As far as they are concerned it is their money.

It is not their money until they are paid and just because they want more money does not mean they are entitled to get it
 
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