Fast Food Strike: Workers Walk Out In US Cities

RoadTime

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
$15 to flip burgers :confused: yeah right, nice to dream big I guess.

I was shocked and saddened this week to see yet another decades long business go under in my town. A favorite greasy spoon has closed it doors. I wonder how long they would have lasted employing $15 burger flippers :rolleyes:
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
$15 to flip burgers :confused: yeah right, nice to dream big I guess.

I was shocked and saddened this week to see yet another decades long business go under in my town. A favorite greasy spoon has closed it doors. I wonder how long they would have lasted employing $15 burger flippers :rolleyes:

$10.50 minimum wage to flip burgers in Ontario... And the sky did not fall...

80k a year to drive a cargo van? Yeah right.....
 

fketchum

Seasoned Expediter
After just finishing that double filet fish sanwhich from McD's I say they deserve a raise as I drift off into a carb/fat induced coma


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layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Deserve a raise? Why? Most fast food places these days are dirty, the service is poor at most. Just because someone shows up for work does not make them deserving of a raise. Raises must be EARNED.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Also first it's fast food...then everyone wants more money. Cashiers at walmart, grocery stores, etc. Who pays for that? First we give them 15 an hour then everyone enjoys price increases on everything and no one not even the 15 dollar an hour burger flipper can afford groceries, etc.
I normally get paid by the stop, not the hour, except once in a while, a situation develops in which I collect by the hour for a while. When that happens, it's $17/hr. You think a guy driving a tractor trailer is going to make $17 while an unskilled fast food worker with a fraction of the responsibility makes $15? If they get $15, I'd better get $40. Pretty soon, a gallon of milk and a load of bread cost $20 -- each. How's your $15/hr look now?

I remember when Frank Thomas, one of the greatest baseball players ever, wanted his contract renegotiated. He had an $81 million contract and that was a lot. Then Alex Rodriguez signs one for $250 million, and Thomas's contract is pocket change, so he had to have more.

Now take your family to a ballgame and try to keep the tab under your weekly take-home pay. That's what happens.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Some how, we as a nation, have come to believe that we need not be responsible for our own lives. We believe that companies or the government is some how responsible for what should be our right and responsibility. In fact, people should be INSULTED by the government who believes that THEY can care for us better than we can.

I think Lady Thatcher said it best when she said, "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money."

And I think it was Bastiat who defined democracy as a system under which everybody tries to live at the expense of everyone else.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I also find it AMAZING just how many of those who are saying they NEED this money to make ends meet have so many luxuries. Many fast food workers I see have enough "spare money" to afford unneeded items like, multiple body piercings, tattoos, cigarettes and "smart phones". I don't understand how they can complain about how much they make when they can afford luxury items like that.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
You know, I had an email exchange with a dense woman one day. She was defending her utilization of economic aid to the poor -- taxpayer-funded government aid, not private charity. I called her a thief. In her own defense, she replied, "I WORKED MY WHOLE LIFE FOR MINIMUM WAGE AND NOTE I NEED THE HELP!"

I was incredulous. "YOU DID WHAT?"

She certainly should not get any aid. We are all responsible for saving money so we're not a burden on anyone in our old age. She could, however, be a fine object lesson if she's willing to take a job going around, giving lectures to young people about how to become destitute in their advanced years: work minimum wage, don't advance, don't go do something that pays better... Maybe young people will learn from her failure.

If your job doesn't pay enough to support yourself and save money, it's time to demand a raise or go do something else. If your employer can't keep people at the wage he's paying, he'll have a decision to make, won't he?
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I don't believe that there should be a "minimum wage" either. Government proves on a daily basis that they have NO understanding of economics or business. They should concern themselves with doing THEIR job and let business do theirs. Government interference is the cause of many of the problems we have, they have created many and solved none. They are not competent to determine business policy.
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
Lets see now: I do not need fast food to live. Lets see again: I can pack my lunch or whatever to live on: they make lunch sacks/boxes to pack my lunch in, I can drink water. I do not need a truck stop to furnish me food. Think....................I really do not care about fast food chains surviving. Myself, I grew up without them, my parents of 1920 grew up without them and did fine.

The end..............
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Lets see now: I do not need fast food to live. Lets see again: I can pack my lunch or whatever to live on: they make lunch sacks/boxes to pack my lunch in, I can drink water. I do not need a truck stop to furnish me food. Think....................I really do not care about fast food chains surviving. Myself, I grew up without them, my parents of 1920 grew up without them and did fine.

The end..............

Everything you say above is correct.

There is, however, another way to look at it. Every business that fails is someones lost dream. It will also not be JUST the jobs at the fast food stores that will be lost. There will be lost trucking jobs. Lost equipment sales and repairs. Lost construction and building repair jobs. Lost lawn and snow removal jobs. The job losses could well be staggering. This at a time when jobs are already hard to find. MANY of those jobs will be lost at other small businesses which tends to have greater impact on local economies. In some more rural areas small business is often one of the driving forces in local economies.

The end.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Everything you say above is correct.

There is, however, another way to look at it. Every business that fails is someones lost dream. It will also not be JUST the jobs at the fast food stores that will be lost. There will be lost trucking jobs. Lost equipment sales and repairs. Lost construction and building repair jobs. Lost lawn and snow removal jobs. The job losses could well be staggering. This at a time when jobs are already hard to find. MANY of those jobs will be lost at other small businesses which tends to have greater impact on local economies. In some more rural areas small business is often one of the driving forces in local economies.

The end.

Well....same thing happened in the auto industry...and the market took care of that and still is...
it is an ever revolving process...even in our industry....let them have their 15$...they certainly have every right to ask for it.....but as the old saying goes...beware of what you ask for...
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Well....same thing happened in the auto industry...and the market took care of that and still is...
it is an ever revolving process...even in our industry....let them have their 15$...they certainly have every right to ask for it.....but as the old saying goes...beware of what you ask for...

The auto industry has not been small franchises, other than some dealerships, for a VERY long time. Fast food stores are often individual small business, not much different in many ways than a one truck expediter.


Yes, markets change, there is always change. Change seldom comes without a lot of pain and change caused by bums who are just too darn lazy to upgrade their skills to make a better living is just wrong. Even worse when many of those who are crying have many luxuries.
 
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