Reality has caught up with the entitlement crowd. Outrageous demands by public sector unions have put a spotlight on organized labor and their ever increasing drain on scarce resources. Obama has paid lip service to the union whiners. Jesse Jackson made an appearance. Democratic state legislators fled the state rather than allow a quorom to be held. These Socialists (Obama and union sympathizers) would rather bankrupt an entire state government than surrender some collective bargaining rights. It was a grave error to ever permit government workers to unionize. Public sector unionization needs to be dismantled root and stem. If permitted by law, the Governor of Wisconsin should institute mass firings to defang this union madness. This is a problem to be laid directly at the feet of the Democrat Party. Unions are their baby.
Democrats have meltdown in Wisconsin
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greg334
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The ATC people signed a contract as do many other federal employees not to strike. The teachers and other state and city employees do not have that clause in their contracts but in some states there are laws forbidding teachers and others, like cops, from striking under any circumstances. I am all for firing a teacher for striking, take the contract negotiations to the summer time and deal with it then, not on the kids time to learn - another pathetic and cowardly act by our public school teachers.
chefdennis
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They are not striking...they have called in sick...if it can be proven that they were in Madison rioting, then they committed fraud and their firing would be justified....and should happen asap...
RLENT
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Those State senators who ran away to avoid that vote should NOT be paid for the time that they are not working. No work, no pay.
ANY teacher, or any other public employee, who called in sick and went to protest the bill should be fired.
I also believe that NO public employee should belong to a union. When I hired on with the DOD I had to sign a contract that stated that I could not join a union or strike. That is how it should be.
ANY teacher, or any other public employee, who called in sick and went to protest the bill should be fired.
I also believe that NO public employee should belong to a union. When I hired on with the DOD I had to sign a contract that stated that I could not join a union or strike. That is how it should be.
If one has time to picket in the streets and call in sick, then those folks must have a lot of discretionary income . On that note, go ahead and fire them, elect Greg to run the government, and all is well, amen?
If elected he will pay all state workers 8 bucks an hour so they cant riot because they need to work..............omy
If elected he will pay all state workers 8 bucks an hour so they cant riot because they need to work..............omyOne more thing Joe, For the Senators who ran away, I am thinking that their expenses are paid with their State credit cards, so their State credit cards should be cancelled as well..
Yep, that they should. If those Senators accept pay or use those credit cards while they are throwing their tantrum they should be arrested for theft when they reenter the state.
Or, maybe a Day Care, cuz isn't that where grown ups take their cry babies? Lol
It just reaffirms my decision last year of dropping out of the Dumocratic party!
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Or, maybe a Day Care, cuz isn't that where grown ups take their cry babies? Lol
ANYONE who runs away rather than fighting for their beliefs is a coward and shows a distinct lack of character. If I was in the district where one of these "bums" who ran was elected I would be doing EVERYTHING legal that I could to unseat them. I still say they should be arrested.
chefdennis
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RLENT wrote:
Nope you didn't miss a thing, its all in the terminology that fits the "agenda"....much like the MSM...
Nope you didn't miss a thing, its all in the terminology that fits the "agenda"....much like the MSM...
RLENT
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Ahhh yes ... I see ....Nope you didn't miss a thing, its all in the terminology that fits the "agenda"....much like the MSM...
So basically you're going to redefine the word "riot" to mean "peaceful protest" ...
War is Peace ... Freedom is Slavery .... that sorta thing ... now I get it.
You may wish to consider very carefully the words of Mr. Adams that I quoted in another thread, whereby he suggested that virtue is a requirement for the success of our little experiment - and decide whether doing such things as above (aka: telling a lie) will result in any kind of a furtherance of that goal, or whether it will actually impede it.
Ahhh yes ... I see ....
So basically you're going to redefine the word "riot" to mean "peaceful protest" ...
War is Peace ... Freedom is Slavery .... that sorta thing ... now I get it.
You may wish to consider very carefully the words of Mr. Adams that I quoted in another thread, whereby he suggested that virtue is a requirement for the success of our little experiment - and decide whether doing such things as above (aka: telling a lie) will result in any kind of a furtherance of that goal, or whether it will actually impede it.
It might have been peaceful but it should be illegal. Public employees should NOT be in unions, should be FIRED for calling in sick and then showing up to protest their wages. That is fraud. Public employees should only be paid what the public can afford to pay. Most people in the private sector are not getting raises, many are taking cuts, tax revenues are down and they unions want raises. Guess there must not have been many math teachers there, or they use "Obama Math".
RLENT
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Good Lord ......
What part of the following are you incapable of understanding ?:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
You flap your gums constantly about the Constitution .... and then make a completely asinine statement like the above, which demonstrates that you have absolutely no clue when it comes to the actual meaning of words, and what potential broad applicability of the right might mean in practice ....
What a frickin' joke .....
Where is that in the Constitution ?
Well, let's see, I was both covered AND restricted by the Hatch Act when I was with the DOD. I don't remember about the State when I was in PA but I THINK I had the same Hatch restrictions.
SO, you have NO PROBLEM with state employees taking YOUR money, calling in sick, and YOU paying them to go protest? I kinda think that they should be EARNING their pay. In the case of many teachers these days that would be a FIRST!!
Pay should be based on performance and what the public is able to pay.
You could try to be civil. Your ideas are NOT the only ones out there and are NOT always right. Neither are mine.
I never said that they could NOT protest. They should NOT be paid to protest and should do so on their OFF DAYS!! They have a job, they should show up and DO IT!! If I were that governor I would FIRE each and everyone that was there and had called in sick.
It would seem that a total lack of comprehension is evident when somebody doesn't understand that the right of peaceable assembly doesn't include permitting these civil servants doing so at taxpayers' expense. If they want to "peaceably assemble" without being in violation of their employment contracts they can certainly seek redress of their grievances on their own time, like on weekends. That having been said, wonder how many WI taxpayer dollars have been wasted on "sick days" recently? Not to mention the inconvenience imposed on thousands of WI parents who had to stay home or make arrangements for kids that should have been in school. How much you want to bet these parents will remember all this next time an election comes up?
What's been noticeably absent from the news coverage of these teachers are details about the cushy situation they're fighting to keep - and believe me, it's a sweet deal.
"The average Milwaukee Public School teacher will be receiving $100,005 in compensation this year – $56,500 of that is in salary, and a whopping $43,505 is in benefits."
(Source: The MacIver Institute)
There's a ton of additional information in the following article, which quotes the MacIver Institute and statistical analyses done by a professor at the Univ. of WI.
Michelle Malkin » Watch Wisconsin, Part IV: Salary info Big Labor doesn’t want you to see; statewide strike looms, teachers’ union recruits out-of-state protesters
By the time you get through reading this you'll understand why the Gov. of WI is trying to get some of these costs under control.
What's been noticeably absent from the news coverage of these teachers are details about the cushy situation they're fighting to keep - and believe me, it's a sweet deal.
"The average Milwaukee Public School teacher will be receiving $100,005 in compensation this year – $56,500 of that is in salary, and a whopping $43,505 is in benefits."
(Source: The MacIver Institute)
There's a ton of additional information in the following article, which quotes the MacIver Institute and statistical analyses done by a professor at the Univ. of WI.
Michelle Malkin » Watch Wisconsin, Part IV: Salary info Big Labor doesn’t want you to see; statewide strike looms, teachers’ union recruits out-of-state protesters
By the time you get through reading this you'll understand why the Gov. of WI is trying to get some of these costs under control.
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