Boeing Is Just the Beginning

chefdennis

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Its been pretty well known that barry is working to stacked the NLRB with his union supportive progressive buddies. They have filed suit against Boeing to stop them from building a new plant in a right to work state SC...and now they want the unions to ave the say on if a cmpany can expand or move at all....

I'd love boeing to just tell the barry and his minions to stuff it, close all American operations and move oversea totally...then maybe they would get the idea of fee enterprise and captialism...no they wouldnt...:rolleyes:

The New NLRB: Boeing Is Just the Beginning

By Hans A. von Spakovsky & James Sherk
May 16, 2011 4:56 P.M.
The New NLRB: Boeing Is Just the Beginning - By Hans A. von Spakovsky & James Sherk - The Corner - National Review Online

The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) raised a lot of eyebrows by filing a complaint against Boeing for opening a new plant in a right-to-work state. But that action is just the beginning of the board’s aggressive new pro-union agenda. An internal NLRB memorandum, dated May 10, shows that the board wants to give unions much greater power over employers and their investment and management decisions.

Under current NLRB rules, companies can make major business decisions (like relocating a plant) without negotiating with their union — as long as those changes are not primarily made to reduce labor costs. For example, a business can unilaterally merge several smaller operations into one larger facility to achieve administrative efficiencies. Companies only have to negotiate working conditions, not their business plans.

The NLRB apparently intends to change that. In the internal memorandum, the board’s associate general counsel, Richard Siegel, asks the NLRB’s regional directors to flag such business-relocation cases. Siegel explains that the Board is considering “whether to propose a new standard” in these situations because the chairman of the NLRB, Wilma Liebman, has expressed her desire to “revisit existing law in this area” by modifying the rule established in a case called Dubuque Packing.

Apparently, Liebman did not like having to apply the Dubuque Packing rules in a recent case involving the Embarq Corporation and the AFL-CIO. The NLRB decided that under the Dubuque Packing rules, Embarq did not violate the National Labor Relations Act by refusing to bargain with the union over its decision to close its call center in Las Vegas (a right-to-work state) and relocate that work to its call center in Florida (also a right-to-work state).

Specifically, the NLRB wants to force companies to provide detailed economic justifications (including underlying cost or benefit considerations) for relocation decisions to allow unions to bargain over them — or lose the right to make those decisions without bargaining over them. It is a “heads I win, tails you lose” situation for unions. Either way, businesses would have to negotiate their investment plans with union bosses. In the concurrence that she wrote in the Embarq decision Liebman expressed her displeasure that “the law does not compel the production of” such information to unions.

What Liebman envisions would raise business costs enormously. Current labor law and the attitude of the pro-union NLRB enables unions to drag negotiations on … and on … and on. Until bargaining hits an “impasse,” employers could not legally make any business changes opposed by their union.

The NRLB’s goal is not just to prevent companies from investing in right-to-work states. The board apparently also wants to force employers to make unions “an equal partner in the running of the business enterprise,” something the Supreme Court ruled in First National Maintenance Corp. v. NLRB is specifically not required by the NLRA. But the board wants business decisions made to benefit unions, not the shareholders, owners, and other employees of a business, or the overall economy. The Boeing charges are evidently just a first step toward that goal.
 

Turtle

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"What Liebman envisions would raise business costs enormously."

I don't think it would raise business costs at all. I think it would simply result in even more businesses closing up shop and moving overseas, which would lower business costs. It might also have a slight negative effect on federal tax revenue. <snort>

I also think Boeing should tell them where to shove it. It's their business and they should be able to run it however they want without paid grunts being able to dictate how the business is run. Employers tell employees what to do. Not the other way around.
 

aristotle

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There isn't much to like about having a Muslim-sympathizing Socialist in the White House. These are the darkest days for our nation since WWII. Can you imagine what a second-term for Obama would be??? No longer having to stand for re-election and freed from political considerations, all Obama's inhibitions would be let loose. Too scary to contemplate. I am firmly convinced Barack Obama deeply resents the United States of America. There is no other explanation for his policies.
 

layoutshooter

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Yep, Boeing just needs to tell Obama and Co. to "shove it" or "bite me" or, "stick it in your ear" etc etc etc.

It is THEIR company, the stockholders company. Our government has NO business sticking their nose into this. Government taking over and controlling business is NEVER good. Reminds me of Europe last century.
 

chefdennis

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But it is all fo the good of the people...its about "hope and change"...making big business for worker friendly....:rolleyes:

So how is that "hope and change" workin for you all that voted for barry?? Funny thing is , you don't hear from most of them anymore..well except those that are on the "entitlement handout list....
 

layoutshooter

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I sure HOPE we get CHANGE soon! Can't wait to get Kind Putz the 1st out in 2012. We could get SOME change today if Obama would finally change his diaper. It is REALLY starting to "smell" in Washington.!! :p:p
 

LDB

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These are the darkest days of our nation period. Unions SUCK as they are now and so do those who believe in them as they are and support them as they are. Just say NO to unions.
 

greg334

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These are the darkest days of our nation period. Unions SUCK as they are now and so do those who believe in them as they are and support them as they are. Just say NO to unions.

Not even close. Try 1916 for real loss of rights and freedoms or 1861 for the true dark times.

If Boeing really wanted to stop them, all they have to do is start terminating defense contracts with the US government and that will get their attention. The time it would take the government to arrange manufacturing at a level equal to Boeing, the defense programs would suffer a lot.

BUT as everyone is soooo focused on Obama and NLRB, many seem to forget that congress can put a stop to everything by threatening to defund the Department of Labor. I don't even think the republicans in congress want to do that.

What this really comes down to is a really valid reason to repeal the 17th amendment and return to having the senate represent the states.
 

EnglishLady

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These are the darkest days of our nation period. Unions SUCK as they are now and so do those who believe in them as they are and support them as they are. Just say NO to unions.

Now THAT I do understand.

When I was in my twenties (so not that long ago :rolleyes:)

I crossed a picket line to go to work and got called a black leg or boot leg or something.

The dispute was over pay (of course) but I honestly believed we were getting a really good deal - the unions wanted more.

I stood up for what I believed was right and got harassed by the very ppl I worked & got along well with.

Unions = Brain washing = greed

I have not been a member of any union since that day

My penny worth
 
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moose

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The Expedite equivalent of Unions are driver hoe are contracted on a 40/60 split.
back in early 2009, i talked to a few drivers that where complaining about owners not keeping up with the truck, and one Panther team drivers i met in L.R, and the owner just lost the 3 trucks he own.
it is always the same story, 40/60 split, with the owners paying for ALL business expenses .
i just witness this again last week, talking to a sprinter driver, now that sprinter is gone !
paying for fuel is though,
driving your owner out of business is stupid.
same as Boeing, unions needs to be very careful what they wish for.
 
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