A Striking Contrast Among Motor Carriers
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paullud
Veteran Expediter
Your catching up to me. I think it is important to let people brag about their company and achievements because so much of what we hear and read is negative. Phil and Diane are loving life and Landstar, congratulations to them. Let them talk about their company and be happy there are different types of carriers out there for you to choose from. I am with you on where the company attitude towards me ranks, show me the money and I am happy. The TT company I worked for before had me as a happy driver despite the fact as you walked in the building you could hear the dispatchers running down drivers. I didn't care because I had great health insurance, a nice check, and was home every weekend. I just smiled and went on my way because to me they were doing that out of jealousy and because they hated their jobs. Just let Phil be happy and do his thing, maybe one day he will mention something that you decide is important and make the jump to Landstar.
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Slacktide
Seasoned Expediter
see PM, BTW I think you have me confused with someone else. I have no PM's from you about tval, only about auto chains. I'm done here as well. Carry on.
The funny thing is, you really don't.
It alwasy cracks me up when someone tries to use someone's post count as ammunition in an incredibly childish attempt to attack someone else.
"You have nothing better to do than to sit around and post on the forums! You need to get a load. You need to get a life! Waaaaaa, waaaaaa, waaaaaa! So there!"
"You hardly have any posts! You are irrelevant! What you say doesn't mean anything until you have more posts! Waaaaaa, waaaaaa, waaaaaa! So there!"
It works both ways. Like Cheri said, only to morons.
zorry
Veteran Expediter
[QUOTE=ATeam
I will admit, however, that our recent visit to Landstar opened old wounds regarding our former carrier.
Phil, you worked for Fedex six or seven years. Years you did NOT park there overnite.
You walked through that drivers door many times,proudly, often encouraging others to do the same.
Now you are WOUNDED ?
Grow up!
Get over it !
I never once bought the fact that you left over the flat rate trailers. I have a theory of why you left. I won't embarrass you by posting it.
Many TVal people that where here then are here now. Still smiling. Still making money. Still buying $200,000 plus new trucks.
You may not have admitted to yourself why you have left. Either way, if you have WOUNDS from your time at FEDEX you need THERAPY.
Please get some. You need to let it go and set yourself free.
You were a highly respected member of the Expedite Community. You still are, though you have lost the respect of some due to this resentment.
Before you respond, sit back and think. It was sent in the spirit of compassion for your situation.
I will admit, however, that our recent visit to Landstar opened old wounds regarding our former carrier.
Phil, you worked for Fedex six or seven years. Years you did NOT park there overnite.
You walked through that drivers door many times,proudly, often encouraging others to do the same.
Now you are WOUNDED ?
Grow up!
Get over it !
I never once bought the fact that you left over the flat rate trailers. I have a theory of why you left. I won't embarrass you by posting it.
Many TVal people that where here then are here now. Still smiling. Still making money. Still buying $200,000 plus new trucks.
You may not have admitted to yourself why you have left. Either way, if you have WOUNDS from your time at FEDEX you need THERAPY.
Please get some. You need to let it go and set yourself free.
You were a highly respected member of the Expedite Community. You still are, though you have lost the respect of some due to this resentment.
Before you respond, sit back and think. It was sent in the spirit of compassion for your situation.
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Phil
I feel your pain in your words brother. I felt the same way about FedEx Custom Critical at one time but I don't any longer. Being off the road full time now and seeing things from other side of the fence, I understand things from a different point of view. It's nothing personal, " IT'S BUSINESS" FedEx Corp has a big bullseye on their back with every lawyer wanting to sue them for anything and everything. I understand why they said no to letting Arrow drivers ride in the trucks with FedEx drivers. 1st the drivers aren't covered in an insurance policy. 2nd they had no information on these drivers. The thought was a very kind gesture of those who wanted to help, but you have to remember that this is a business. We don't make the rules and if you want to play in their sandbox you have to go by their rules or don't play in their sandbox. Rules are put in place for a reason, not to upset people but to PREVENT things from happening.
ATeam said:
I needed therapy when Fedex bought out Roberts. After numerous years of attending therapy sessions at Panther I have fully recovered.
If there was an injury claim, the insurance company would be liable for most of it and the driver for the rest, I believe. Strangers, yes but also drivers known to be with Arrow trucking and drivers who were in need. For those of us who would have been inclined to help an driver in this time of need, it would have been nice to have the freedom to choose to help a driver. That does not mean that everyone would have been obligated to do so. If drivers had concerns and were not inclined to help, that would be their right too.
Good info.
"(a) Unless specifically authorized in writing to do so by the motor carrier under whose authority the commercial motor vehicle is being operated, ..."
Landstar complies with this reg but the carrier also readily grants such authorization to BCO's who request it. A form must be completed and you're good to go.
Your post is noted.
slingblade
Not a Member
It seems like some fallars like to try and re-invent the wheel. I always said if it ain't broke why fix it!
purgoose10
Veteran Expediter
Did you ever stop to think about the fact you are cleared to haul high value GBL freight. If you have an accident with an unauthorized passenger the people that clear Fed Ex for those delivery's will see that. Did you ever think that they would have second thoughts about renewing Fed Exs contract or maybe just fire you instead.
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Of course no one should put such a passenger in their truck if a high-value or otherwise sensitive load was on board. If the truck is loaded with such freight, it goes without saying that you would observe all security protocols. I'm not talking about putting a fast one over on an important shipper or putting high-value freight at risk. I'm talking about AUTHORIZED passengers in unladen trucks or loaded trucks that are hauling FAK (freight all kinds). Not once in this thread have I suggested that an unauthorized passenger be permitted in a truck of any carrier under any circumstances.
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Phil
Don't let the things of the past get to you. If you do, they have the power over you. You have to forgive them and move on because if you don't, it will eat at you for years to come. Remember I was at Robert Express/ FedEx Custom Critical for almost 14 years. I like you gave 110% to a company that I thought I would have 40 years of service with when I retired at 65. You folks made the choice to leave and look it as a new chapter in your life's.
Don't let the things of the past get to you. If you do, they have the power over you. You have to forgive them and move on because if you don't, it will eat at you for years to come. Remember I was at Robert Express/ FedEx Custom Critical for almost 14 years. I like you gave 110% to a company that I thought I would have 40 years of service with when I retired at 65. You folks made the choice to leave and look it as a new chapter in your life's.
8secondbull
Rookie Expediter
Well this topic lit my match so I finally just made a user name and jumped in the water. I've been reading E.O. for 3 years but this is my first post. My take on a carrier is about like the government, I really have no desire to get all warm and fuzzy in regards to one and I am not a team player. We are in business and I expect all parties involved meaning the folks at my carrier, my self, and the people who work for my company to all act in a professional manner that benefits both sides. What do I mean by that? One word, " Balance " .
I don't expect my carrier to pay $3.00 a mile on every load, if my mentality was as such I ought to apply for a union job. In the same respect, my carrier will figure out in one way or another that my trucks are not moving for a $1.00 or a $1.25 a mile. I also understand that exceptions will apply from time to time. For instance, I have a tractor running a 500 mile load at $4.00 per mile around the Montreal Quebec area that originally came out for $1.52, why did we throw such a large counter offer? To cover our tail on the dead head back out BUT, say a miracle falls from the sky and the carrier offered a load at a sub par rate of $1.40 a mile back to Buffalo NY. Out of Canada, It's their lucky day we will take it.
To reference back to my comment I made earlier about how I view a carrier the same as the government, When the government starts saying words like " free " , " affordable " , " change " and my personal favorite " safety " I understand that what these acronyms really stand for is " Taking ", " UN-affordable ", mind boggling, " disaster ", a reality that will make everything less functional while eliminating productivity all together and blanketing it under the name of a nice word we can all agree on called " safety ". ( This is my personal experience and if things are different for other people than I have no argument and think that is great. )
So again what do I mean by this particular statement and how does it apply to the topic on hand? I really don't want things like a place to park over night at headquarters or free access in and out of a cafeteria. Give me a carrier that is focused 100% on Good Business, Good for the Carrier and Good for my Fleet. If the carrier doesn't make money I have to find freight somewhere else, and if my fleet doesn't make money then likely other quality fleets are not making money either. In turn leaving nothing but the new guys that haven't figured out that they cant operate for free or at a loss, while being mad about it and giving bad customer service ultimately causing the carrier to acquire a bad name.
Things like community drivers lounges at a carriers HQ or other topics like those listed above might be important to some and in that instance I see nothing wrong with that, and I am not saying that a carrier such as " Landstar " might not have all if not every quality anybody could ever want out of a carrier BUT, I also do not believe that a carrier such as " FedEx CC " should be chastised because of tight security. I don't find it unreasonable to compare a carriers HQ to being their Home/House. In our own lives we might let someone into our kitchen without supervision but wouldn't opt to let them roam our bedroom freely. Different strokes for different folks.
I don't expect my carrier to pay $3.00 a mile on every load, if my mentality was as such I ought to apply for a union job. In the same respect, my carrier will figure out in one way or another that my trucks are not moving for a $1.00 or a $1.25 a mile. I also understand that exceptions will apply from time to time. For instance, I have a tractor running a 500 mile load at $4.00 per mile around the Montreal Quebec area that originally came out for $1.52, why did we throw such a large counter offer? To cover our tail on the dead head back out BUT, say a miracle falls from the sky and the carrier offered a load at a sub par rate of $1.40 a mile back to Buffalo NY. Out of Canada, It's their lucky day we will take it.
To reference back to my comment I made earlier about how I view a carrier the same as the government, When the government starts saying words like " free " , " affordable " , " change " and my personal favorite " safety " I understand that what these acronyms really stand for is " Taking ", " UN-affordable ", mind boggling, " disaster ", a reality that will make everything less functional while eliminating productivity all together and blanketing it under the name of a nice word we can all agree on called " safety ". ( This is my personal experience and if things are different for other people than I have no argument and think that is great. )
So again what do I mean by this particular statement and how does it apply to the topic on hand? I really don't want things like a place to park over night at headquarters or free access in and out of a cafeteria. Give me a carrier that is focused 100% on Good Business, Good for the Carrier and Good for my Fleet. If the carrier doesn't make money I have to find freight somewhere else, and if my fleet doesn't make money then likely other quality fleets are not making money either. In turn leaving nothing but the new guys that haven't figured out that they cant operate for free or at a loss, while being mad about it and giving bad customer service ultimately causing the carrier to acquire a bad name.
Things like community drivers lounges at a carriers HQ or other topics like those listed above might be important to some and in that instance I see nothing wrong with that, and I am not saying that a carrier such as " Landstar " might not have all if not every quality anybody could ever want out of a carrier BUT, I also do not believe that a carrier such as " FedEx CC " should be chastised because of tight security. I don't find it unreasonable to compare a carriers HQ to being their Home/House. In our own lives we might let someone into our kitchen without supervision but wouldn't opt to let them roam our bedroom freely. Different strokes for different folks.
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8secondbull
Rookie Expediter
1 - Welcome to EO
2 - Shame on you for waiting 3 years to post.
3 - Paragraphs are your friend.
4 - Other than the paragraph thing, great post!
Thank You, I gave that paragraph thing a whirl in a edit.
My wife is the grammar person, I am more of a numbers guy.bubblehead
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