36 Years Ago Today.......

usafk9

Veteran Expediter
......the Blizzard of '77 started.

I was a fifth-grader, growing up in a small town in Western New York. Never saw so much snow before or since. Got the unique lake effects from both Erie and Ontario. School until late July that year, and neighbors pulling together doing what good neighbors do.

Remember where you were, and did you experience that storm?
 

Monty

Expert Expediter
About midnight, I was loading gas in Dayton, Oh for the Bonded station, (Now Speedway), in Greenville, Oh. I advised the dispatcher it was not wise to make the trip, as there were blizzard warnings. Apparently he had never experienced one, I had.

The weather was warm and rainy. Greenville is about 40 miles away. By the time I got there, there was 3-4" of snow on the ground.

Before I had the fuel dump finished another 2" or so were on the ground, the wind was terrible! Blowing and drifting, along with an emptry taker had me stuck on flat ground, I couldn't move, even with the Mack wheels locked in!

A fellow in a 4x4 came by and yanked me up onto the roadway and I started home. I made it to Arcanum on Rt49 when I realized I was going to make it worse if I kept moving. I pulled to a wide spot I knew was there alongside a church, (I couldn't actually see it).

When I got stopped, I heard someone on the cb ask if, "Are we done?". He had been following me in another semi, I didn't even know he was back there. It was total whiteout conditions.

I sat there in an R model Mack, with the throttle reved up to 1800, I was nice and warm, but the snow was piling up on the drivers side floor, coming in around the door seals. This was a one stack Mack, with NO shack on the back. I did the best I could to get comfortable in the day cab and set it out.

Sometime after daybreak, with the storm continuing, there was traffic on the cb from some base stations in the area, I asked one of them to call my wife and tell her I was ok, but stranded. The driver behind me had them call his wife also.

Later in the day, it eased up a bit and we tried to get moving ...made it several miles and got stopped by a large drift .. there we sat, no where to go. A couple that lived a few houses down the road and said if we could make to them, we were welcome to stay until the road got opened.

I, making outside delivers in all kinds of weather, was prepared. I had on several layers of clothes, and topped off with Carhartt overalls. I was ready to walk in the storm. The fella behind me was not. He ****ed near froze to death

After we got inside and him thawed out we found our hostess wanting to cook us dinner. We declined opting for sandwiches instead, Her hubby, (they were an older couple), said, "Hey she don't cook often, I want a meal!" So we had dinner with them.

After sleeping on the couch and floor, the next day a snow plow came through escorting an ambulance, seeing a shot, we made it back to the trucks and followed along. At some point someone with another cb in a house made a comment, "Look at those truckers, to dumb to stay off the roads." And I politely responded, "Lady we have been stuck out here two days, if there's a shot to get to the main road, we're taking it."

As luck would have it, the snow plow, with a v-blade out front sheared off a pin and had to abandon the trip. The ambulance turned back with him, and we were stuck again!

One more night on the road and finally the third day they did indeed get the road open.

A sidenote: Since this was a union job, I was paid for every hour, and overtime for all time over 8 hours a day. I made a bunch from that 80 mile trip!

Arriving home I had 5' drifts in my driveway, took days to get it cleaned out with a shovel!
 
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skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
I was 31, back in college, 2 kids, working too, that was wife nbr 1, can't remember anymore, lol. Its all I can do to locate my teeth now, in that dish by the bed.
 

fastman_1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I had just bought my first truck,a 1975 international 4070B.....come a long way since then!
 

Monty

Expert Expediter
The blizzard I refereed to was in'78 ... oops. My wife and I got married in '77 .. but none the less, an interesting time.
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
I was 16 years old in 1977 and remember the Blizzard of '77 and '78 well. Living in rural Appalachia near the Big Sandy River. In both '77 and '78, all of our streams, creeks and rivers froze over for most of the winter months. The ground froze to a depth of about 18 inches and our residential water lines froze several times. My father and I would dig through this frozen tundra with mattocks, picks and dirt shovels, then repair the frozen lines. I carried a lot of coal and firewood for our Warm Morning stoves.

There was basically no school from mid-December until late February. The mountain roads were impassible to all but 4WD vehicles. The local school district extended our instructional days from 7:30am to 4:30pm M-F and half days on Saturdays to make up lost days. In 1977 we also had a devastating flood in April which destroyed much of Pikeville and hundreds of homes situated near streams. The school year ended in late June even with clemency days granted by the State.

It was a beautiful winter for children. Legendary snowsledding. Again, all streams froze over for long periods of time, including the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers. Coyotes were able to re-enter the eastern US by walking across the frozen Mississippi. I have read coyotes were practically extinct in the eastern US until the winters of '77/'78. Now, coyotes are everywhere.

2 winters for the (ice) ages | Our History

http://www.kyclimate.org/factsheets/recordgreatessnowdepth.html
 
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Ragman

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
That storm must have been due to global climate change. Just ask Al Gore.:rolleyes:
 

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
I was in AIT at Fort Sill, OK.
While not a blizzard, Fort Sill did experience one of there worst ever snow storms that year. We dug out all the roads with entrenching tools and waste paper cans.
 

Monty

Expert Expediter
Living in rural Appalachia near the Big Sandy River

How far up the Big Sandy did you live? I was born and raised, (until 13), along the river at White House.
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
How far up the Big Sandy did you live? I was born and raised, (until 13), along the river at White House.
Feds Creek lies along the Levisa Fork of the Big Sandy River. About 3 miles from the Virginia stateline and maybe 10 miles from the Tug Fork of Hatfield/McCoy feud sites.
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I'm not sure if it was the same storm, but the time frame sounds about right. I was working for an outfit that made pallets and wooden boxes in Livonia, MI. We did a lot of work for Guardian Glass down in Carlton. I had done a couple of runs and was on my way back to the yard. It was starting to snow and they came on the radio with blizzard warnings and telling everyone to get off the roads, which doesn't really happen all that often.

So, I decided I was going home early. I knew they had an "on call" guy, but they still gave me a hard time saying I had to go again. I told them I didn't want to get stranded and went home. I was 21 at the time and was maybe a bit younger than that in terms of maturity. And, the job paid just slightly over 4 bucks an hour, so there wasn't much motivation there.

So, fill in guy comes in, loads the truck and makes it as far as the exit for Guardian. He spent the next day and a half in an elementary school gymnasium. He had to abandon the truck on the exit ramp. The truck got towed. Meanwhile, I was having a blizzard party with friends feeling very good about the decision I'd made.

A couple days later, I went to work and rode with the boss to get the truck. We went in and I was given the keys to start the truck while the boss settled the bill. I started the truck and the steering wheel just spun around. The steering box was stripped out. I went in and said that they must have had some animal tow the truck because it was broken. Well, the guy from the towing company called me a lot of nasty names and kicked me out of his office. What I didn't know was that the National Guard had pushed it out of the way with a very large truck, without regard to the welfare of the truck.

The guy came out and apologized to me and told me what happened, saying he should have just told me what happened in the first place. I also apologized, saying I should have taken into account the situation.

So, what have we learned here today class? We've learned that cold suds with your Homies bets the heck out of a day and a half in some gym with strangers.
 

Mdbtyhtr

Expert Expediter
I was in high school and worked at Hardees. I had to be there at 4am to meet and unload the delivery truck. We were both there but the manager never showed. We both slept in my car because the heater was better than in the truck. We went to sleep with about 6" of partly cloudy and when we woke up, we couldn't open the car doors! We thought someone was messing with us, so we rolled the windows down to crawl out and found a chest deep blanket of snow. We shoveled out 1 door to be able to close the windows and I walked home behind a snow plow.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
We only had one heavy snow fall during the 5 years I was in England, I don't recall the year. Heavy snow was rare there. It was, of course, ALGORES fault. Just like this years freak snows over there. The picture I saw of the entire island covered in snow was amazing to see. Very much out of the norm.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8447023.stm
 
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cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I lived in Daytona Beach then, and had promised to go fishing with some friends, but thought it too cold when the day came. They razzed me until I put on 2 sweatshirts and off we went, and it snowed.
Of course it melted as soon as it touched the ground, but one guy [who'd never seen snow] was just sooo excited, it was hilarious.
My family sent pics of the giant snowbanks, and it looked a lot like it does right now in Ashtabula - yukkk!
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Missed it - had just relocated to the Bay Area to work a shutdown job at the beautiful Exxon Refinery in lovely Benecia, CA:

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RLENT

Veteran Expediter
My family sent pics of the giant snowbanks, and it looked a lot like it does right now in Ashtabula - yukkk!
Just came down I-90 from Buffalo this evening ... intermittent heavy snowfall and whiteout conditions from just west of Buffalo to just west of Mentor ... was pretty bad ...
 
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