Tornado Relief Logistical Help!

MANIAC

Seasoned Expediter
Hey Folks, We have been asked to contact anyone that can carry relief supplies from OH/IN collection sites to parts of the country that have been devastated by recent tornadoes and floods! The T/A in Jeffersonville OH, Florence, KY, and Walton KY, and soon Knoxville, TN are collecting everything and anything to be sent to these people! There are alot of people working very hard on getting the collection sites set up! Our very own Lawrence McCord will be getting together with the T/A rep. that is handling this project! This effort is covered under a 501c3 charitable donation reciept on milage ran for this effort! These details will be worked out this coming week! There are alot of folks hurting! We will be hauling a load very soon! The smaller expedite vehicles will be very handy getting into these devistated areas! If interested pm me and we will get you names and phone numbers of folks to contact to get this program rolling! I can't think of a better way for our industry to help OUR COUNTRY! God Bless and God Speed!:)
 
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JOHNCLARK

Expert Expediter
Hey Folks, We have been asked to contact anyone that can carry relief supplies from OH/IN collection sites to parts of the country that have been devastated by recent tornadoes and floods! The T/A in Jeffersonville OH, Florence, KY, and Walton KY, and soon Knoxville, TN are collecting everything and anything to be sent to these people! There are alot of people working very hard on getting the collection sites set up! Our very own Lawrence McCord will be getting together with the T/A rep. that is handling this project! This effort is covered under a 501c3 charitable donation reciept on milage ran for this effort! These details will be worked out this coming week! There are alot of folks hurting! We will be hauling a load very soon! The smaller expedite vehicles will be very handy getting into these devistated areas! If interested pm me and we will get you names and phone numbers of folks to contact to get this program rolling! I can't think of a better way for our industry to help OUR COUNTRY! God Bless and God Speed!:)

Count us in. I sent you a PM.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
"This effort is covered under a 501c3 charitable donation reciept on milage ran for this effort!"

Just a thought, what organization will this be under?

501(c)3 means little unless it is named.

AND another thought, the mileage you can write off for charitable work is 14 cents per mile, not the fifty something cents that many are used to - this is set by the congress with no exceptions.
 

JOHNCLARK

Expert Expediter
"This effort is covered under a 501c3 charitable donation reciept on milage ran for this effort!"

Just a thought, what organization will this be under?

501(c)3 means little unless it is named.

AND another thought, the mileage you can write off for charitable work is 14 cents per mile, not the fifty something cents that many are used to - this is set by the congress with no exceptions.

$.14 is better than none. Is there a differerence between a tractor and let's say a cargo van? I'm sure MANIAC is recommending a legitamate organization. However, where can you check their credentials? Thanks in advance!
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
$.14 is better than none.

Well it depends on your point of view, I wouldn't worry about it if I was involved, I wouldn't be doing it as a write off.

Is there a differerence between a tractor and let's say a cargo van?

I would think that is for your accountant to see if there is. I would think it would apply regardless what you drive. I have been told that I can not write off my service costs (or what I would charge) for a service for charitable work, I have to take the actual mileage and use the 14 cents as part of my volunteering.

I'm sure MANIAC is recommending a legitamate organization.

I'm sure he is but the thing is, there should be a disclosure when 501(c)3 is mentioned. If it is a new startup, it may be a big problem seeing that the application process takes a few months, if not a couple years while the IRS will allow contributions, this only happens if the recognition is completed by the IRS by the end of the calender year.

However, where can you check their credentials?

Yep sure is;

Search for Charities, Online Version of Publication 78

GuideStar nonprofit reports and Forms 990 for donors, grantmakers and businesses
 

MANIAC

Seasoned Expediter
I assure you, that this is a legit organization! And, I can assure you the milage that is being wrote off is substantially more than .14 cpm! Lawrence McCord will have more info next week when he meets with the T/A rep! :rolleyes:
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Take what you get and run with it..be it $.14 or considerably more...the fact is the people you will be helping NEED the help..I don't know everyone here and do not presume to know each persons life, but I can tell you that i have been down and out..through the help of others and hard work i am ok , but helping others is just want we do...

If you can help at all, do what you can..
 
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greg334

Veteran Expediter
I assure you, that this is a legit organization! And, I can assure you the milage that is being wrote off is substantially more than .14 cpm! Lawrence McCord will have more info next week when he meets with the T/A rep! :rolleyes:

I got all of that and beleive that many won't give a crap about any write off but here is the thing, I've been doing this stuff for over 17 years now and there are a lot of things that people can do and can't do which I am here as I am obligated to do to explain things to people in this forum. You can't write off a crap load of money just because you get a slip of paper from a charity, volunteer services are limited and because it is an IRS flag for an audit, it will greatly increase your chances of one.

Not only that, a lot of false charities pop up when disasters happen to rip people off - a disclosure is not just a good thing but in many cases should be the first thing. The IRS doesn't hand out the exempt recognition willynilly and it doesn't matter if Lawrence and T/A are involved - just saying it is a charity is ok but naming it means a lot. If people are claiming that there is representation of a charitable organization or making an offer without giving out a name, it is a flag.

You can not write off more than 14 cents a mile if you operate under the mileage exemption - that is the law, there are no exceptions and it is that way for a reason. Because your accountant (not a tax preparer) can get more out of it depending on your business situation, I would think that it would be prudent to pursue the question with them and not depend on anyone for a determination. Congress limits the charitable mileage to 14 cents to limit the abuse.

Take what you get and run with it..be it $.14 or considerably more...the fact is the people you will be helping NEED the help..I don't know everyone here and do not presume to know each persons life, but I can tell you that i hae been sown and out..through the help of others and hard work i am ok , but helping others is just want we do...

If you can help at all, do what you can..

Yes Dennis, I am not discouraging anyone from helping but rather want to make sure that people understand that this is not jump in the car and go time.

People need help, the help needs help, there are a number of levels of things people can do, but asking before going helps a lot more than showing up and then being part of a problem.

The people who are on the ground should have support groups they depend on, many of them are going to need to rotated out of the area to prevent burnout and others replacing them, this is one reason why in the other thread I said to contact those organizations to see where you can help out.

Many don't get how disaster recovery works nor is it always explained. Many times volunteers have to be vetted and then educated, while others are just asked to pitch in. I explained the process once before, explained the problems with being on the ground and explained how to help - I stopped asking a while ago because of the response I got here on EO.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
"I would think that is for your accountant to see if there is. I would think it would apply regardless what you drive. I have been told that I can not write off my service costs (or what I would charge) for a service for charitable work, I have to take the actual mileage and use the 14 cents as part of my volunteering."


My account says the same thing. You cannot write of service costs as a charitable deduction.

I doubt that those who volunteer would be doing it for the money. They would do it because they want too.
 

jelliott

Veteran Expediter
Motor Carrier Executive
US Army
We will be glad to help out and offer trucks and services. The tax write off is pretty meaningless in the whole scheme of things.

Lawrence; just let us know what is needed.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I doubt that those who volunteer would be doing it for the money. They would do it because they want too.

Yes I agree, people will go and help and not worry about it, BUT because money was brought up, I try to explain the situation about the subject so no one gets p*ssed off when reality hits them in the a**.

I too volunteered as I have in the past, without even worrying about money and this time without worrying about sleep. This morning I finally got 4 hours of sleep, before that it was naps or an hour here or there. Once my basement water went down below a foot, I took a break and helped load box vans for a few hours and then went home to take care of my dog who has paralysis.

Thanks for an answer John.
 

Monty

Expert Expediter
My only concern would be Insurance ..... I will check with the carrier tomorrow, and see if indeed myself, the vehicle and the product are covered in case of a claim.
 

asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
Can't people just help and not concern themselves with tax breaks....yikes...makes you wonder where there true intentions are.....

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greg334

Veteran Expediter
Can't people just help and not concern themselves with tax breaks....yikes...makes you wonder where there true intentions are.....

It goes beyond taxes, the one thing that we are taught with disaster relief is that people showing up who don't have a purpose or there is no need for them can make it impossible to help those who need help. The tax issue was brought up by the OP as an incentive, but most won't care.

WHAT is important is being a help that is effective, not just trying to help or showing up. There is a whole world built around this subject that is different and sometimes makes no sense at all to the public for disaster relief. IF someone like me makes a suggestion, it isn't because we are just making this sh*t up but trying to help those who need the help by making people think and go to the right source for information and volunteering. I posted the Fema link and suggest calling the salvation army and the red cross also to see what you can do.

MOST of the problems related to people just showing up and trying to help is the liability involved if something goes wrong so this is a good thing to do in our case;

"My only concern would be Insurance ..... I will check with the carrier tomorrow, and see if indeed myself, the vehicle and the product are covered in case of a claim."
 

MANIAC

Seasoned Expediter
Listen to XM 166 June 24th midnight to 5am with Bubba Bo, then it will all make sense to everybody what we are doing! We are just getting trucks and manpower in place to get everything ready to roll! You guys can trust me on this one! Wehave been doing work with Special Olympics foe 11 years! Everything we do for charity or helping the fellow man is on the up and up!
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
As is obvious to anyone that reads the thread, the desire to help is first and foremost. Having said that, it would be foolish not to take advantage of any write offs Uncle Sam may offer.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Listen to XM 166 June 24th midnight to 5am with Bubba Bo, then it will all make sense to everybody what we are doing! We are just getting trucks and manpower in place to get everything ready to roll! You guys can trust me on this one! Wehave been doing work with Special Olympics foe 11 years! Everything we do for charity or helping the fellow man is on the up and up!

I do not doubt that this is legit for a second, and commend you on the effort but why is it such a secret?
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
As stated, I doubt that many, if any, would do it based on the tax savings. Those who can get involved would do so because they wish too.

Having said that, it is a GOOD idea to have the correct information. We don't want people filing for things that they cannot and getting in trouble.

For those of you who can, and do help, good job. Just be sure that it is really needed.

As someone mentioned before, sometimes there is too much help and those who try to help just end up in the way.
 
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