The American Flag Is 'Offensive'

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
I thought i posted something on this last week, but couldn't find it..so here is the story and a"follow up" of sorts:

Dr. Burnim asked him if this would "go away" if his son were allowed to hang the flag now.

May 16, 2011

The American Flag Is 'Offensive' in Schools Now
By Selwyn Duke
American Thinker: The American Flag Is 'Offensive' in Schools Now

Increasingly, it seems that the American flag is joining toy guns and dodgeball on the banned-from-school list. And the latest story on this front involves The Butterfield Elementary in Orange, Massachusetts, where a teacher told an eleven-year-old boy that he may not hang his depiction of Old Glory because it might "offend" another student.

The boy, Frankie Girard, had drawn the picture in art class but then found that his teacher didn't share his patriotism. Says his father, John, "He was denied hanging the flag up. And he asked if he could just even hang it on his desk, and he was told no. He could take the picture that he drew and take it home and be proud of it there."

I guess patriotism has joined piety as a "private matter." (Leftists tend to confuse closets with shelves. Everything that should be in the former, they display; everything that should be on the latter, they hide.)

There is a bit of a back story here, too. It is claimed that this incident followed an altercation in which the offended one struck Frankie after Frankie asked him why he didn't recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

As for the accusation leveled against the teacher, it's denied by the school superintendent, Dr. Paul Burnim. He refused to go on camera, but, reports WWLP.com's Matt Caron, he "told 22News over the phone that nobody ever told Franklin the drawing was offensive, and said the only reason it wasn't hung was because Franklin was supposed to be doing other work; [sic] not drawing a picture."

Nose growing much, doctor?

The reason why I don't believe this man for a second is this: What eleven-year-old is going to concoct a story that his teacher said his flag drawing was "offensive"? Oh, I understand that kids can lie almost as well as educators, but such a fabrication would require a level of cultural knowledge and sophistication beyond the grammar-school set. No, what we have here is a guilty teacher and a superintendent doing damage control and hiding under his desk.

As to this, Frankie's father, John -- who has contacted the ACLU (which makes me wonder about his cultural knowledge) and gotten a lot of press -- said that Dr. Burnim asked him if this would "go away" if his son were allowed to hang the flag now. Obviously, this educator is worried about being hanged himself. Doctor, the time for that is past.

And you are a coward.

If you were any kind of man, you would have been offended that a teacher would look askance upon the flag. If you were any kind of a man, you would have leapt into action without hesitation. If you were any kind of man, you would have defended our culture. But you're something other than a man.

It's called a leftist.

And this is typical of leftists. They persecute traditionalist students in thousands of schools and universities nationwide (see Campus-Watch.org), and, when they are occasionally caught with their hands in the commie jar, they don't even have the guts to come on camera and defend their "beliefs."

This is because they operate based on popularity, not principle. They are pack animals, fawners over the fashionable. In 1936 Germany, they would have been doing the goosestep, and in 1917 Russia, they would have sported the hammer and sickle. This malleability isn't surprising, either. "Left," like "right," is a relative term. Left of what? In the case of these folks, the only constant is that they're left of sanity.

Now, in the comments section under Caron's article, someone in the community accused Frankie of being a bully. But this is irrelevant. It would be a mistake to conflate a defense of the flag with a defense of a flag-waver. If the boy misbehaved, punish him, but you don't prohibit the flag's display because it's "offensive." You hang the flag -- and then "hang" the child if necessary.

Speaking of which, was the little offended offender punished for striking Frankie? Or is that allowed now when someone has the temerity to express patriotic sentiments?

And who is offended by the flag, anyway? Is this classmate a budding al-Qaeda member? A La Raza Reconquista type? Is his last name Chavez? (Actually, Frankie's sister claims he's a Jehovah's Witness.) Whatever the case, if the American flag offends him, I suggest that he's in the wrong country.

The thing I find most irritating about this story is the ridiculous idea that "offensiveness" should be a guide for anything. And it not only shouldn't be...

...but it cannot be.

This is because offensiveness is completely relative and subjective: most everything offends someone and most everyone is offended by something. Yet we won't prohibit everything. Would we kowtow to a child who was offended by sitting next to a black classmate? In short, we have to discriminate among people's feelings. And what will be the yardstick that we use to judge? Unless it is the "feelings" of the given authority figure -- in which case the judgments are completely arbitrary -- the standard of right and wrong must be applied.

Once you recognize this, the offensiveness argument goes out the window. It passes muster only in a relativistic universe in which, without a conception of Truth as a yardstick for making decisions, people use the only thing they have left: emotion. Yet this reduces society to the law of the jungle: we fight, using fists, votes, or words (maybe lies), and those who prevail see their will done. And that higher one, and civilization, are casualties.

The truth is that when people take offense, it's usually just a ploy. They're not really offended.

They just don't happen to like what you're saying.

But if they were honest and said just that, they'd seem intolerant. So they try to seize the moral high ground by putting the onus on you and claiming you're "offensive." Yet they usually have neither the high ground nor anything moral. If they had the latter, they'd likely be able to mount an argument as to why you're wrong in a real, absolute sense. Instead, all they're saying, properly translated, is that they don't like how you taste. If they looked to Truth, however, they might find that the problem actually lies with their palate.

Something else that can exist only in a relativistic universe is the spiritual disease that today wears the label "liberalism." Get people to believe in Truth, and this disease will die as surely as will a fungus exposed to the light.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Another blog post that really is hashing an old subject.

For the kid, does it really matter?

For the parent, they are a bit on the lazy side by even talking about this issue but not pulling their kid out of school.

See this blog post should be really about the disconnect between parents and the school system. The writer is another who is speaking to the choir on a political divide with a long drawn out post based on a trivial issue which at best when compared to serious issues like limiting participation because of the capabilities of the kid.

The reason why I don't believe this man for a second is this: What eleven-year-old is going to concoct a story that his teacher said his flag drawing was "offensive"? Oh, I understand that kids can lie almost as well as educators, but such a fabrication would require a level of cultural knowledge and sophistication beyond the grammar-school set. No, what we have here is a guilty teacher and a superintendent doing damage control and hiding under his desk.

I would normally be surprised me at the assumption that an eleven year old is not capable of absorbing what struggles are going on within our borders and already taking sides. I bet that he is not dumb as the writer makes him out to be but writer sets him up as Forest Jr for the purpose of making a point which could be easily made without the BS labels or assumptions.

As to this, Frankie's father, John -- who has contacted the ACLU (which makes me wonder about his cultural knowledge) and gotten a lot of press -- said that Dr. Burnim asked him if this would "go away" if his son were allowed to hang the flag now. Obviously, this educator is worried about being hanged himself. Doctor, the time for that is past.

Well I think here the writer also has it wrong and playing into his main demographic by assuming that the ACLU is all evil and someone with a legitimate grievance can use them to find a resolution or justice. The other side of the coin for me is the purpose for the father getting air time something more to do with his own agenda? The superintendent's point is well taken with his offer, maybe many of us would make the same offer.

And this is typical of leftists. They persecute traditionalist students in thousands of schools and universities nationwide (see Campus-Watch.org), and, when they are occasionally caught with their hands in the commie jar, they don't even have the guts to come on camera and defend their "beliefs."

I do agree that students, many of them are not traditionalist, are targeted by both the administration/faculty of the school and the students at the same time. These do include a cross section of students, not one type is exclusive to the abuse of their rights.

With that said, the writer assumes to call them out in an odd way, many of them don't seem to be communists but rather the same type of socialist that permeate the two political parties in power.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Boy Greg, you've become the real "negative Nellie", lately. I'd almost call you a centrist. You've lost your way, son. Come home to the light of conservatism! :D

BTW... battles like this, won in the trenches against elitist leftists, are what gets people to really look at these clowns and go "WTF?"
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Anyone offended by our flag is welcome to get the hell out of our country.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I will be more than happy to escort ANYONE who does not like our flag to any exit from this country you choose.
 
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