Let us all remember

[Ragman]

…LET US ALL REMEMBER!!!!!

When I was a kid, I couldn't understand why Eisenhower was so popular. Maybe this will explain why.

It is a matter of history that when the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.

He did this because he said in words to this effect:

'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history, some ******* will get up and say that this never happened'

This week, the UK debated whether to remove The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offends' the Muslim population, which claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.

It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This is in memory of the 6 million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians, and 1,900 Catholic priests Who were 'murdered, raped, burned, starved, beaten, experimented on and humiliated' while the German people looked the other way!

Now more than ever with Iran , among others, claiming the Holocaust to be 'a myth', it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.

How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade Center 'NEVER HAPPENED' because it offends some Muslim in the U.S. ???

"God's gift to us is life...Our gift to God is how we live it."

FREEDOM ISN'T FREE...SOMEONE HAD TO PAY FOR IT

NEVER FORGET!!!

 

[LDB]

A good lesson that some desperately need to learn.

 

[aristotle]

Good post, Ragman. We have so many Americans in blissful denial about the threats from Islam. Prepare for the slings and arrows to come. In the past few weeks, I have had the pleasure of being called a xenophobe, homophobe, KKK clansman, redneck. Then, I logged on to EO and experienced real name calling. Just shrug it off.

 

[RLENT]

Actually what he said was:

"The things I saw beggar description...the visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations to propaganda." - Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ohrdruf April 15, 1945.

The above quote is engraved on one of the four walls of the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, located just off Capitol Mall, in Washington, DC - along with the words of three other American Presidents - Carter, Bush Sr., and Reagan - but Eisenhower's words were given the most prominent spot.

And what actually occurred was:

"Ohrdruf was a forced labor camp that was a subcamp of the Buchenwald concentration camp. It had been abandoned by the Nazis as their soldiers retreated in the last days of the war, and it was the first camp, that still had prisoners inside, to be discovered by the American soldiers. Previously, American soldiers had come upon the totally abandoned Natzweiler-Struthof camp in Alsace, which is now in France, but was part of Germany back then. Ohrdruf was the only camp visited by Eisenhower; he saw it on April 12, 1945 (the day that Roosevelt died) in the company of General George Patton and General Omar Bradley. He wrote the words above in a letter three days later.

Out of concern that Americans back home would not believe the horrors of the camps, with the hundreds of emaciated bodies of prisoners who had died of typhus, Eisenhower ordered that the bodies be left out for weeks and as many soldiers as possible be brought to the camps to witness the tragedy. A huge picture of American soldiers viewing the burned corpses of dead inmates at the Ohrdruf camp is the first thing you see when you step out of the elevator on the fourth floor to begin the tour of the permanent exhibit. The bodies were routinely burned in all the Nazi camps in an attempt to stop the spread of disease."

When I was in the 7th or 8th grade we watched a long detailed documentary about the Holocaust and the concentration camps as part of our social studies or history class - it is something that is, and always will be, indelibly etched in my mind .....

 

[layoutshooter]

But we did forget what happened, or rather, choose to ignore and allow it to happen in Soviet Russia, North Korea, S.E. Asia and everywhere else in the world that Socialist scum ruled. Just as it continues today. Just as it is headed here, in the Soviet Socialist States of North America.

The evil grows again, and many today embrace and praise it's growth. Those who speak up against it are "wackos" or "ignore" the "sins" of those who have stood against it in the past and still stand against it today.

Nothing ever changes, we will ignore the danger until it is almost too late. Until millions are at risk. Then and only then will we stand up. It may be too late this time.

**** the hand ringers and excuse makers. Fight or Die!!

The EVIL is at hand. We ignored it in 1935, 1945 and we still ignore it today. The deaths of innocents is on OUR hands.

 

[Ragman]

But we did forget what happened, or rather, choose to ignore and allow it to happen in Soviet Russia, North Korea, S.E. Asia and everywhere else in the world that Socialist scum ruled. Just as it continues today. Just as it is headed here, in the Soviet Socialist States of North America.

The evil grows again, and many today embrace and praise it's growth. Those who speak up against it are "wackos" or "ignore" the "sins" of those who have stood against it in the past and still stand against it today.

Nothing ever changes, we will ignore the danger until it is almost too late. Until millions are at risk. Then and only then will we stand up. It may be too late this time.

**** the hand ringers and excuse makers. Fight or Die!!

The EVIL is at hand. We ignored it in 1935, 1945 and we still ignore it today. The deaths of innocents is on OUR hands.

Which is why we must stand up and shout --- NEVER AGAIN!

 

[greg334]

Stand up and shout never again about what?

We forgot the lessons of the Second World War, we have allowed ourselves to appoligize for being involved and then not doing enough.

It wasn't like we didn't know this wasn't going on, we did. Eichmann actually came out and said during his trial he tried to negotiate with the allies to exchange gold for people but the leaders of the key countries refused the offer.

Nevertheless we knew what was going on, as did France and England, all of us didn't care and even France had a serious history that is ignored about their treatment of Jews from before the turn of the century leading up to the invasion of France. It made it easy for the Germans to rid France of Jews.

But regardless I think we have allowed overshadowing of events of today and the past 40 years with those of 1939-45.

We tend to forget or actually ignore events that affect people who we have no connection to during the past 40 or so years.

For example, we allowed the French to reek havoc in Vietnam after the war. Why?

We liberated millions of people during that war, including the French themselves but ignored the pleas to liberate a colony where abuses have gone on for almost a century by the west?

When we did get involved with Vietnam on the terms of the French, it was a mess, not the fault of the guy on the ground in the jungles or on the plains or mountains but here in the streets of our own cities. We lost because of them, not because of any other reason. In doing so, we allowed those who opposed the war to ignore the rise of evil in the form of Pol Pot, and the result was as some estimate over 3 million dead.

Pretty good results for those war protesters, right?

But again does anyone understand what happened in Algeria under the French?

Here is another Vietnam per se, the French who had Algeria as a colony were more ruthless with the Algerians than they were with the Vietnamese.

A million and a half estimated dead by the French in Algeria, most were Muslim when the French killed an estimated 200,000 in Vietnam.

Now think about Never Again for a moment.

Let's not forget about India, we didn't care about them either. Under British rule, and after the split between the two areas that became Pakistan and India, Indian Muslims, Hindu and Sikhs were killed - some estimate a million or so.

We need to look at Africa, even though the Africans don't want anyone else involved except to send money. Why are we saying never again but not invading some of these countries to stop the blood shed?

Rwanda

Dafur

Sudan

Maybe we are disconnected to them too?

Surely the blacks here feel some sort of kinship with those over there to be like the Muslims had with their people in Srebrenica, Right?

I think if the numbers are correct, we have topped 10 million in Africa through direct or indirect killing. Most of which we have been told is Europe and the US's fault but we don't pull triggers or starve people.

Never Again?

How about China and Russia?

70 million sounds like a big number to me.

So does the 40 million Russians?

 

[layoutshooter]

Well, we sure cannot go about the world sticking our noses in the business of others, no matter how many die. It is not our business to interfere with the right of those to murder and destroy entire populations. How wrong of us that would be. I mean, after all, WE caused them to murder. Everything is our fault.

 

[greg334]

Well, we sure cannot go about the world sticking our noses in the business of others, no matter how many die. It is not our business to interfere with the right of those to murder and destroy entire populations. How wrong of us that would be. I mean, after all, WE caused them to murder. Everything is our fault.

How true, according to our present administration, we need to apologize for the injustice we have done to everyone - even those who we have had nothing to do with.

For example Obama should be making a speech at the UN assembly how the United States didn't stop the Ottoman Empire with the siege of Vienna in 1683.

 

[chefdennis]

Here is a good site for info including Allied pictures taken from air recon planes that i came across a while back:

The Auschwitz Album