Finally Did It!!!!

[Poorboy]

Well, Last Friday I Finally Had a Chance to get Home for a Few Days, So I went down to the Democratic Headquarters and After a Very Heated Conversation with One of those Koolaid Drinkers I Ended Up Leaving The Democratic Party After 40 Plus Years! Now, To Go To The Repiblican Side Or the Independant Side Hmmm

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Well, Last Friday I Finally Had a Chance to get Home for a Few Days, So I went down to the Democratic Headquarters and After a Very Heated Conversation with One of those Koolaid Drinkers I Ended Up Leaving The Democratic Party After 40 Plus Years! Now, To Go To The Repiblican Side Or the Independant Side Hmmm

There is no rush to claim a party...wait and see what candidates they field and their platforms are and make an informed decision based on facts instead of emotion....Congrats poorboy for making the move of crossing the floor

 

[chefdennis]

OVM is right, no need to hurry or even claim a party a this time...in some states you don't even have to register as a party member to vote in the primaries..you can just declare to be independent..... wait on the candiates and vote for the one that best suits your ideals..no matter if he wins or not...

 

[OntarioVanMan]

OVM is right, no need to hurry or even claim a party a this time...in some states you don't even have to register as a party member to vote in the primaries..you can just declare to be independent..... wait on the candiates and vote for the one that best suits your ideals..no matter if he wins or not...

I am right? wooo whooooo *doing the happy dance* i am right, I am right, I am right!!!!!

 

[dieseldiva]

I am right? wooo whooooo *doing the happy dance* i am right, I am right, I am right!!!!!

Easy there, O Crazy One, it's a temporary condition, I'm sure.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Easy there, O Crazy One, it's a temporary condition, I'm sure.

another comment from the peanut gallery... *L*

 

[Dreammaker]

Poorboy,

My congratulations to you. Ponder the possibilities if a substantial portion of the population disentangled themselves from party affiliation and became independents. That might radically change the two party system power block. Then they would truly have to moderate their views in order to stay in office.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Poorboy,

My congratulations to you. Ponder the possibilities if a substantial portion of the population disentangled themselves from party affiliation and became independents. That might radically change the two party system power block. Then they would truly have to moderate their views in order to stay in office.

Yay. Moderates.

Dem: We need this!
Mod: You can have half of that.
Rep: We want to cut that.
Mod: You can slow its growth.
Lib: We want socilalism!
Mod: You can, but at a slower rate. Nothing heavy till after I'm dead.
Cons: We want our constitutional republic back!
Mod: Sorry... it's a democracy now. And the people voted... they want a democracy. Just wait till after I'm dead, and you can throw a revolution against socialism, which I've promised the lib.

 

[layoutshooter]

Vote ALL the bums out!!

 

[Dreammaker]

Yay. Moderates.

Dem: We need this!
Mod: You can have half of that.
Rep: We want to cut that.
Mod: You can slow its growth.
Lib: We want socilalism!
Mod: You can, but at a slower rate. Nothing heavy till after I'm dead.
Cons: We want our constitutional republic back!
Mod: Sorry... it's a democracy now. And the people voted... they want a democracy. Just wait till after I'm dead, and you can throw a revolution against socialism, which I've promised the lib.

From American Heritage Dictionary:

moderate

1. adjective Being within reasonable limits; not excessive or extreme: a moderate price.
2. adjective Not violent or subject to extremes; mild or calm; temperate: a moderate climate.
3. adjective Of medium or average quantity or extent.
4. adjective Of limited or average quality; mediocre.
5. adjective Opposed to radical or extreme views or measures, especially in politics or religion.
6. noun One who holds or champions moderate views or opinions, especially in politics or religion.
7. transitive verb To lessen the violence, severity, or extremeness of.
8. transitive verb To preside over: She was chosen to moderate the convention.
9. intransitive verb To become less violent, severe, or extreme; abate.
10. intransitive verb To act as a moderator.
11. Syntax Note
Synonyms: moderate, qualify, temper
These verbs mean to make less extreme or intense: moderated the severity of his rebuke; qualified her criticism; admiration tempered with fear.
Antonym: intensify


Apparently you equate the verb moderate ( see above) with the noun, i.e., usage in current political parlance (also see above). Since I was using the verb and not the noun, I would have to guess that there are some issues that you would feel entirely comfortable using the verb to moderate views of the far left and those in power in congress right now. Could be wrong. Been wrong before, will be wrong again. You might feel entirely comfortable with the views being espoused in Congress and by our current President. If not, you would truly want to moderate those views.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Yes... moderate their views. I mentioned to my nephew that the moderates moderate, giving a little to each side to keep them happy. Kinda like a youth soccer league where there is no penalties, no goals, and 'everybody wins'. Everyone gets ice cream (pork) in the end.

I'd rather vote for someone who is a communist and admits it, than someone who says he's a conservative, yet spends like a drunken sailor. In the end, the first guy is still a commie, and the second is a moderate... ie, someone with NO ideology, other than appeasing the voters.

In the end, it won't be liberal socialists who destroy this country; it will be moderates (middle of the road independents) who destroy it. They have abandoned the republic for a democracy.

 

[layoutshooter]

Well put TenneseaHawk!! We have a MAJOR lack of politions from either side of the spectrum that have REAL VALUES that they believe or stand up for!! Does anyone doubt that? If so, think on this. How many of our elected bums would rather face losing a seat than to vote for something or against something that interferes with their core values? I would be willing to bet not many if any. Most are in it for the power and personal gain only.

 

[letzrockexpress]

Well, Last Friday I Finally Had a Chance to get Home for a Few Days, So I went down to the Democratic Headquarters and After a Very Heated Conversation with One of those Koolaid Drinkers I Ended Up Leaving The Democratic Party After 40 Plus Years! Now, To Go To The Repiblican Side Or the Independant Side Hmmm

Where did this take place? Most of these headquarters are not actively operating at this time...If you believe in the constitution and true capitalism, come with us...Check it out, it's in my signature below.

 

[layoutshooter]

Both the Dumb-O-Crat AND the ReBumLiCans have offices open in our area. They are ALL LYING to the PEOPLE and need to go. VOTE ALL THE BUMS OUT!! There is NO free ride, there NEVER has been. Get out and EARN IT!! Take PRIDE in you OWN ablility to make it on your own!! There in lies the ONLY TRUE power you will EVER have!!! In other words, "The Only TRUE Freedom can be found in Self-Reliance!!"

 

[letzrockexpress]

Both the Dumb-O-Crat AND the ReBumLiCans have offices open in our area. They are ALL LYING to the PEOPLE and need to go. VOTE ALL THE BUMS OUT!! There is NO free ride, there NEVER has been. Get out and EARN IT!! Take PRIDE in you OWN ablility to make it on your own!! There in lies the ONLY TRUE power you will EVER have!!! In other words, "The Only TRUE Freedom can be found in Self-Reliance!!"

Wasn't Mr. Gautama preaching Anarchy as self reliance? Is that what you mean?

 

[layoutshooter]

Self-Reliance is NOT Anarchy!! It is putting your best foot foward to insure your own survival AND the survival of the Republic!! Living in a Republic REQUIRES EVERYONE to do their BEST and NOT depend on the charity of others. When we all do the BEST we are able to do we ALL prosper. Charity is a GIFT and should NEVER be a LAW!! Government should NEVER be more than a needed EVIL and should and must be controlled by the PEOPLE!! That IS our RIGHT!! I stand PROUD behind that.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Self-Reliance is NOT Anarchy!! It is putting your best foot foward to insure your own survival AND the survival of the Republic!! Living in a Republic REQUIRES EVERYONE to do their BEST and NOT depend on the charity of others. When we all do the BEST we are able to do we ALL prosper. Charity is a GIFT and should NEVER be a LAW!! Government should NEVER be more than a needed EVIL and should and must be controlled by the PEOPLE!! That IS our RIGHT!! I stand PROUD behind that.

Very well stated!

There's something about starting at the bottom and working your way up that brings out the best in most of us. And, if you look at the political parallels, most towards the bottom would tend to vote Democrat; but their views would lean more Republican as they climb the ladder. Face it... not to many working the bottom really care about republics, democracies, socialism, communism, or anything like that.

 

[letzrockexpress]

Very well stated!

There's something about starting at the bottom and working your way up that brings out the best in most of us. And, if you look at the political parallels, most towards the bottom would tend to vote Democrat; but their views would lean more Republican as they climb the ladder. Face it... not to many working the bottom really care about republics, democracies, socialism, communism, or anything like that.

I agree... at first. Sooner or later it becomes "us against them" like in everything else. It's always Us vs.Them... labor vs. management, prolitariat vs. bourgeois, haves vs. the have nots, etc...

 

[OntarioVanMan]

A Social Democracy works just fine..there is no Gestapo on street corners....

I'll ask you this question....

you've been to Canada...

What freedoms don't they have, that Americans have?

Are Canadians suppressed? Are they slaves? do they not buy and do what they want? Are they not just people working and playing and raising their kids? Nobody stands over them and tells them what to do....they have the same choices Americans have...Ask JuJu what it is like..

The Canadian Federal budget was in a surplus till this recession...with all the same programs as the US has...how do you explain that one away?

 

[greg334]

A Social Democracy works just fine..there is no Gestapo on street corners....

Sorry OVM, we are not going to go to Canada's version of government, we are headed for England's form.

It is not the place where freedoms are just as they are in Canada or in the US, there are restrictions, thought police and a camera around every corner.

I love the UK, I really like the people there but learning about its history in the late 19th and most of the 20th century, I could not bring myself to live there even now with a lot of the reforms.

Canada however I have been thinking about buying land there....