VA Hospital Health Scare In TN

Pilgrim

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Something to think about, considering the number of us who are veterans or have parents that are vets.


Tennessee patients lose trust in VA hospitals after health scare

By Clay Carey, The Tennessean

For years, Gary Simpson received medical treatment at the VA hospital in Murfreesboro. Never once did he have a complaint.
Now, Simpson and thousands more fear they may have caught serious diseases because of shortcomings at the government-run medical center.
Simpson was one of nearly 6,400 current and former patients at the Alvin C. York Medical Center who were notified earlier this year that they might be at risk for HIV or other viral infections because of problems with equipment used to perform colonoscopies.
The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs has said tubes used during the procedures had incorrect valves and may have exposed those veterans to body fluid from previous patients.
At least 10 veterans treated in Murfreesboro have tested positive for hepatitis since their colonoscopies, but the VA says there is no way to know whether the test results are directly related to the equipment used at the hospital.
Patients who went to at least two other VA health-care facilities have also been warned about exposure to diseases because of equipment issues. Members of Congress have questioned the VA's practices in the wake of the revelations, and patients have criticized the agency for not being forthcoming with information.
"I felt real bad, and threatened by the possibility of getting all kinds of diseases from that procedure," said Simpson, 57, an Army veteran. Two separate tests for HIV and hepatitis came back negative, but he worries about other illnesses like syphilis that the tests would not catch.
"It's hard to get it off my mind," Simpson said. "It just makes me sick to think of the unsanitary conditions ... the nastiness."
A VA spokeswoman said Friday that the agency is still going over the results of a systemwide review of the way the procedures are conducted. She could not say whether problems had been found at other hospitals.
"This is an absolute priority," the spokeswoman, Katie Roberts, said. "We need to make sure we address this. ... It could just be human error, but if it is something else, appropriate action will be taken."
Problems at VA clinics
Roberts said four patients treated at York have tested positive for hepatitis B and six have tested positive for hepatitis C, which is potentially life-threatening and can cause permanent liver damage. No one has tested positive for HIV, she said.
After problems were discovered in Murfreesboro and at another clinic in Augusta, Ga., the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs ordered a re-evaluation of safeguards and procedures for cleansing instruments used in colonoscopies.
About 1,800 veterans treated at an ear, nose and throat clinic in Augusta were warned that they might have been exposed to infections as a result of improper disinfection of medical instruments.
Earlier this month, more than 3,000 patients at a Veterans Affairs hospital in Miami were advised to take tests for HIV and other diseases after the hospital discovered that equipment used to perform colonoscopies had not been properly sterilized.
"We take full accountability. We potentially put them at risk," Roberts said. She could not say Friday if that means the VA would help pay for treatment for hepatitis or other diseases.
In hopes of quelling fears about infections, the agency set up a call center for Murfreesboro patients to contact them with questions. More than 4,300 called with questions or to set up appointments to be tested for diseases.
"We're going above and beyond," Roberts said. "We are constantly evaluating. If we can do something better, we are making sure we do it."
Questions unanswered
Others disagree. Gary Simpson's wife, Janice, said many of their questions about what happened at the Murfreesboro hospital had gone unanswered.
"They don't want to talk about it and they refuse to give you answers," she said.
The VA has said the risk of infection through its colonoscopies is very small. But the agency is unable to say exactly how many of its former patients have been tested.
Some refused to be tested, the VA said, and others chose to be tested by private doctors.
"Some of these veterans are having a hard time trusting the VA to test them after, in their opinion, the VA made a big mistake," said Nashville attorney Mike Sheppard. Sheppard said his firm is working with about 15 patients.
Simpson said he would never get another colonoscopy at the Murfreesboro hospital, though he will have to continue to go there for specialized care.
"It will be hard," he said. "The trust that I had with them will probably never be the same."
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Shades of the National Un-Healthy system to come. The more the STATE is involved the worse it will get. Layoutshooter
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
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It is certainly a sorry situation, but it happens in for-profit hospitals as well. Human error happens everywhere, not just in government facilities.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
You are right, but, it will become more and more the norm. Our health care will be working hard to lower it's standards to the level of England. It won't even take that long either. No more than 10-20 years, if that. Layoutshooter
 

Scuba

Veteran Expediter
One of my sons is a US Marine he was flown to Bethesda Naval Hospital for eye surgery. My oldest son and I went to see him while he was there he had been out of the country for over a year so we both took off a week to spend with him. His surgery was one that wouldn’t require him to stay in the hospital so he got a room in the building right next to the hospital. In his room there was a sign next to the coffee pot. “IF YOU USE THE WATER YOU MUST BOIL IT WATER CONTAINS DANGEROUSLY HIGH LEAD CONTENT” The room was for visitors and Naval personal while having a procedure done at the hospital. Yes I think the same government should run the health care for everyone NOT
 

wellarmed

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I don't mean this to be a joke,I have the utmost respect for our vets,I'm not a vet myself but someone in my family has fought in every war since and including the civil war.The fact is,and again I don't mean this as a joke,our vets are allways taking it in the butt.If you were to make a movie about war you can make millions of dollars and become famous,if you actualy fight in a war or just serve our country in uniform the only thing you have made is a mistake.The only good I see coming from our current war is the recognition they are receiving which our older vets never did. THANK YOU TO ALL WHO SERVE IN UNIFORM FOR YOUR SERVICE AND SACRAIFICE I BELEIVE ALL OF YOU DESERVE A MILLION BUCKS,that would make a good stimulus package. PS. Mr president feel free to use my stimulus plan.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Actually the Iraq War has allowed us to bring a lot of things to better standards, one thing is prosthetics - amazing progress has been made in this area of medicine. The other is medical field care, I did a refresher for my EM training and amazed at what has changed because of the work in the field.
 

Scuba

Veteran Expediter
if you actualy fight in a war or just serve our country in uniform the only thing you have made is a mistake.

A mistake serving one's country is a mistake wow my family is full of fools i guess your's goes back to the civil war well mine goes a little farther back COL John Durkee The Scarlet Standard #6 - Col. John Durkee, Norwichtown's Forgotten Hero Wilkes-Barre Preservation Society Most of the men in my family line were in the service. Myself 25th inf div and the 250th combat enginers One of my son's is a SGT Army National Guard another son is a US Marine sorry that you feel we all made a mistake. Had people like COL Durkee and General George Washington felt that way we would still be under british rule. As for me I am proud of every man or woman that puts the uniform on.
And to be honest with you i am ashamed of you
 

wellarmed

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I reread that and it didn't come out right,I meant that there not payed or compensated enough for there service.As I said I do have the utmost respect for our veterans.I hope there was something about the post that you could appreciate.I realy can't see how that post can be turned around into something negative.I have noticed that a lot of people see only what they want and not what they should and that number just went up.And realy when I went back and looked at what you were so ashamed of me for I could not beleive that you could overlook the rest and only pick what you misunderstood.And I to would have served,I went as far as going to a recruiter to find out there was a waiting list. I was 18 married with a 1yr. old son,I did not know where my life was going but I did know I didn't want it to be commited to a waiting list and with the advice of my father inlaw who was a vet of Korea and fought in the baddle of porkchop hill I decided to take another path. 27yrs. later I'm still married and glad I took my father inlaws advice.
 
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wellarmed

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I for one took it the way it was intended WellArmed, and Thank YOU!!! Layoutshooter

You sir deserve the thanks. My thoughts,feeling,and respect for vets. I'm sure are shared by all or most,I would look forward to meeting you someday.My father inlaw shared a few storys from his service,like how korean kids would take there socks to the river and wash them in trade for chocolate.When asked to tell of battles he said,"Son lets just say,I've been your age you will never be mine" I've talked to many vets. since and never again did I ask any questions, I just listen.That one statement from my father inlaw told all the stories.
 

inkasnana

Expert Expediter
I might agree with a "human error" if it had only happened at one hospital, but for it to involve multiple VA hospitals says a lot about how those places are run and it's just not right. Our veterans deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. This whole mess is just plain wrong and I hope that the people who need to be are held accountable.
 
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