US State Department Succumbs to Homosexual Pressur

OntarioVanMan

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Talk about a double standard!

A coalition of radical homosexual groups put heavy pressure on the Bush Administration to change its vote to allow UN accreditation of homosexual groups seeking UN recognition. Though they were unsuccessful in gaining accreditation for the groups, they are claiming credit on their websites for getting the US to change what was a no vote to a yes.

Claiming credit for the change in US policy are Human Rights Watch, Human Rights Campaign, National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Committee (IGLHRC). "The United States' anti-gay vote was shocking. We are glad that the Administration heard our concern and reversed its position," said Paula Ettelbrick, IGLHRC executive director.

Last January, the United States voted against granting official UN status to the Danish Association of Gays and Lesbians and to the International Gay and Lesbian Association, a group charged with allowing pedophile groups in its membership. After that vote, a coalition of homosexual groups initiated a lobbying campaign and sent a letter to Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice demanding an explanation of the US position. Homosexual activists also met with the members of the US delegation at the Commission on Human Rights in Switzerland to voice their anger.

Philipp Braun, the co-secretary general of ILGA, stated, "We are satisfied, though - ILGA's campaign to support its member groups in their application for ECOSOC and have homosexuality and gender identity come out at the UN is going well and has forced this committee to engage a dialoge on our issues." Braun is urging other gay groups to apply for status at the UN, stating, "It will be interesting to see how the NGO committee will react then."

Homosexual groups are becoming more active at the UN as annually they pressure the UN Human Rights Commission to include homosexuality in the interpretation and implementation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. This would result in hate crimes charges being brought against Christian and others who oppose the homosexual agenda. The initiative has lost many years in a row owing largely to the Muslim countries.

Thomas Jacobson, the UN representative for Focus on the Family Action, said, "We commend the countries that successfully opposed the homosexual-rights groups. But we are disappointed that the Bush administration, after opposing such groups seeking NGO status for five years, changed its position."
 

lanier1

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I think OOIDA should apply for UN status and any crime committed against a trucker be considered a hate crime. I mean, it's only fair... Right?
 

OntarioVanMan

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>I think OOIDA should apply for UN status and any crime
>committed against a trucker be considered a hate crime. I
>mean, it's only fair... Right?

yep...they lobby, get status and we are protected!
We're truckers, a minority, low pay, ridiculed, we'ed qualify
 

greg334

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A point that was brought up at a holiday event recently; Many people are in favor of Homosexual marriages simply because when our government topples to the Muslims in the near future, the new government will not have to go looking for them due to the fact they are all registered as married couples, hence allowing the new Muslim government to clean up the mess of homosexuality.

Also as I am thinking about it, the facts have been twisted about the subject of homosexuality (going from a sickness to a genetic form of behavior) by the UN and other groups to normalize the behavior. The latest is that Animals show homosexual behavior which is impossible because homosexuality by the very definition is a human trait.

To make sure that there is a clear understanding that the UN has a problem with the children's bill of rights that prohibits exploitation of children and the homosexual agenda that they are pushing, the clear conflict of interest can not be susutained without a sacrifice of either, which I would say will be the children's bill of rights. Many homosexual groups who have been promoted to equal status at the UN not only recognize pedophilia as a normal behavior but also promote it with their alignment with Nambla, the European children’s pornography movement and the Asia child slave trade.

The UN needs to be shut down, nothing less because it has strayed far from its intended purpose with human rights accords that have been forced on part of the world but not the parts that matter.
 

cheri1122

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>A point that was brought up at a holiday event recently;
>Many people are in favor of Homosexual marriages simply
>because when our government topples to the Muslims in the
>near future, the new government will not have to go looking
>for them due to the fact they are all registered as married
>couples, hence allowing the new Muslim government to clean
>up the mess of homosexuality.

I'm going to take a leap here, & assume the proclaimers of this theory were, shall we say, imbibing? If sober people believe this, our country is in worse shape than I thought!
>
>Also as I am thinking about it, the facts have been twisted
>about the subject of homosexuality (going from a sickness to
>a genetic form of behavior) by the UN and other groups to
>normalize the behavior. The latest is that Animals show
>homosexual behavior which is impossible because
>homosexuality by the very definition is a human trait.

Which facts? It's true that homosexuality was considered a mental illness until the early 1970's, however, medical professionals once considered "bad blood" to be the cause of many ailments, and removal of the blood, to be the cure. (Aside: I always wondered how they figured it was the bad blood that was dripping into the bowl, & not the good stuff...) Science and medicine are constantly updating what we know to be true - and the latest science says "there is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic & hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality" Anecdotally, I've known many homosexual people, (and I'm sure you have too, only you don't know it, because they'd prefer to skip being subjected to your disapproval) and not one of them has ever felt they had any choice in the matter. That makes sense to me, as I don't feel I do, either: I cannot manufacture sexual attraction, to anyone - it's there, or it isn't. Is your experience different?
As for animals: according to the definition, sexual orientation is "an enduring emotional, romantic, sexual, or affectionate attraction" I believe if animals are sexually attracted to others of their own gender, they qualify.
>
>To make sure that there is a clear understanding that the UN
>has a problem with the children's bill of rights that
>prohibits exploitation of children and the homosexual agenda
>that they are pushing, the clear conflict of interest can
>not be susutained without a sacrifice of either, which I
>would say will be the children's bill of rights. Many
>homosexual groups who have been promoted to equal status at
>the UN not only recognize pedophilia as a normal behavior
>but also promote it with their alignment with Nambla, the
>European children’s pornography movement and the Asia
>child slave trade.

Pedophilia is, and must always be, immoral and illegal, because children do not possess the capacity to give informed consent. I'm not sure whether you're implying that homosexuality is closely related to pedophilia, but if you are: that is the simply baseless fear mongering ignorance. The incidence of heterosexual pedophilia is ample proof of that.
>
>The UN needs to be shut down, nothing less because it has
>strayed far from its intended purpose with human rights
>accords that have been forced on part of the world but not
>the parts that matter.

I'm not informed enough on the UN to comment on that, but I think your beliefs on the subject of homosexuality will one day be proven to have been a matter of ignorance, influenced by religion. And if you still refuse to change your mind, when that day comes, may (your) God help you.
 

greg334

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Whoa Cheri, I have to take issue with your statement: "I'm not sure whether you're implying that homosexuality is closely related to pedophilia, but if you are: that is the simply baseless fear mongering ignorance. The incidence of heterosexual pedophilia is ample proof of that."

No I am not, the homosexual groups are.

The problem is that -

1 - the civil rights 'movement'of the homosexuality community has cause them to think that they deserve special rights, which the leaders of these groups have tried to tell us that they are just like other real minority groups - African-Americans, Latinos and Asians to mention a few.

2 - with that they have also openly aligned themselves with groups like NAMBLA to name one, they have supported and defended these groups, sometimes feircly, to the point that they some to the table with the attitude that these groups are part of the larger group.

3 - in some cases the fringe (the ones who really make a big deal about this) justify all kinds of bad behavior and insist must be accepted by society, which includes what I mentioned.

Now I know there is a difference between the couples living in my Aunt's neighborhood (all gay except her) and the people down the road who are pure and simple sick people chasing after kids. The issue I have is until they define what homosexuality is and make sure that these leaders of the movements distance themselves from these groups and behavior, they should not get a thing from me in respect or support.

The UN has a big problem knowing that this issue has been brought up a few times and I don't think that with their African operations raping and killing they really deserve funding until real reforms take place.

Cheri I have a few freinds that are gay, they know how I feel and we have had a lot of discussions about this issue. They can't define it and in someways don't feel it is a sexual thing more than a human thing - meaning taking the sex completly out of it to define it.

The funny thing is that I accept a lot of people for who they are, not what they are. I know of a few people who I would not hesitate to hire and they are gay, they are trust worthy people.
 

cheri1122

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>Whoa Cheri, I have to take issue with your statement: "I'm
>not sure whether you're implying that homosexuality is
>closely related to pedophilia, but if you are: that is the
>simply baseless fear mongering ignorance. The incidence of
>heterosexual pedophilia is ample proof of that."
>
>No I am not, the homosexual groups are.

You don't specify which groups: there is a big difference between mainstream, radical fringe groups, and the mostly silent majority. Would it be fair for me to quote the Reverend who protests at the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq, as representative of religion in general?
>
>The problem is that -
>
>1 - the civil rights 'movement'of the homosexuality
>community has cause them to think that they deserve special
>rights, which the leaders of these groups have tried to tell
>us that they are just like other real minority groups -
>African-Americans, Latinos and Asians to mention a few.

Nothing I've seen is asking for 'special rights' - just the same rights heterosexuals have. (Aside: if we don't get a grip on immigration, especially illegal, at least one of those "minority" groups will soon be the majority in the US!)


>
>2 - with that they have also openly aligned themselves with
>groups like NAMBLA to name one, they have supported and
>defended these groups, sometimes feircly, to the point that
>they some to the table with the attitude that these groups
>are part of the larger group.

Maybe it's just that I can't figure out who 'they' are, but I can't make heads or tails of this assertion. NAMBLA promotes activity that is immoral and illegal, and I am not aware of any support for that, by any rational person. I do know that 'politics makes for strange bedfellows', so it wouldn't surprise me to see two quite dissimiliar groups aligned temporarily, in a common cause, while rejecting every other tenet of their 'bedfellow'.
>
>3 - in some cases the fringe (the ones who really make a big
>deal about this) justify all kinds of bad behavior and
>insist must be accepted by society, which includes what I
>mentioned.

When you say 'the fringe', I think that says it all. Society must not accept all kinds of bad behavior, no matter what lunatics promote it - and I personally feel that the refusal to grant civil rights to homosexuals is bad behavior.
>
>Now I know there is a difference between the couples living
>in my Aunt's neighborhood (all gay except her) and the
>people down the road who are pure and simple sick people
>chasing after kids. The issue I have is until they define
>what homosexuality is and make sure that these leaders of
>the movements distance themselves from these groups and
>behavior, they should not get a thing from me in respect or
>support.

The definition of homosexuality has been established for a long time. Does someone not understand that? I don't have a clue as to who "they" are, in the paragraph above, every time I read it, it is more confusing. If you mean the UN, I said I don't know much about them - I can barely stay informed on what's happening in my own backyard anymore.
>
>The UN has a big problem knowing that this issue has been
>brought up a few times and I don't think that with their
>African operations raping and killing they really deserve
>funding until real reforms take place.
>
>Cheri I have a few freinds that are gay, they know how I
>feel and we have had a lot of discussions about this issue.
>They can't define it and in someways don't feel it is a
>sexual thing more than a human thing - meaning taking the
>sex completly out of it to define it.

Sorry, but I can't figure out what you're saying here either, maybe I accidentally took stupid pills in place of my vitamins today - homosexuality doesn't require the inclusion of sex, merely the attraction towards one's own gender. And that, I submit, is something over which none of us has any control, and to punish anyone for it is wrong, wrong, WRONG.
The practitioners, and sympathizers, of NAMBLA, however, should be be castrated, physically, and then chemically, for good measure!
>
>The funny thing is that I accept a lot of people for who
>they are, not what they are. I know of a few people who I
>would not hesitate to hire and they are gay, they are trust
>worthy people.

Well, that's something, huh? The really funny thing, in my view, is that gay people are just like the rest of us: there are good ones, bad ones, honest ones, liars, etc. They are, in short, people, just like us. And when we can treat them that way, we will have advanced as a civilized society.
 

highway star

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If it's not a choice, then what is the physical difference? There must be some difference between me and the 3rd sex. But where is it? Medical mystery? I think not. Just a choice.
 

cheri1122

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C'mon, Star, you've been around long enough to know that sexual attraction originates in one's brain, aided by hormones, and the brain is the least understood of human organs. Science is discovering some differences there, and I'm sure that eventually, it will be proven that sexual orientation is not a matter of choice, but preordained.
Now, if they could just explain the attraction to football....;)
 

theoldprof

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This story proves nothing: Several years ago a girl was adopted by a gay couple in Indy. She had a sister in a foster home. The gay couple wanted to adopt the sister. Don't know why they were separated. When the local religious kooks (not Indy) found out about the gay guys wanting to adopt the sister to get them both together they had a sh-t fit. There was wailing and gnashing of teeth, letters to the editors, editorials, etc. Even the mayor of the town got involved. The foster parents eventually adopted the little girl so she couldn't be adopted by the gay couple. After the adoption it was found out the foster father was molesting the little girl. Now, the foster father is in jail and the little girl is adopted and can't be adopted to be with her sister. As far as anyone knows, the gay couple are great parents to the other girl.
:+ :+
 

Jayman

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Ontariovanman,

Does this mean you will be moving back to Canada? LOL Just kidding. :+
 

mcbride

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Cheri-

I applaud you for your attempts to address close minded people.


The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.

F. Scott Fitzgerald (1896 - 1940), "The Crack-Up" (1936)


-mcbride-
--What goes around comes around--
 

OntarioVanMan

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>Ontariovanman,
>
>Does this mean you will be moving back to Canada? LOL Just
>kidding. :+

Jayman:
Gay is legal in Canada! So I'll not be moving back...(not the only reason)
 

greg334

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Gay is legal in Canada, Oh I see it is a crime now here in the US? :+
 

arkjarhead

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being gay should be a crime. I mean look in the Bible. Sodam and grumorah mean anything? queers are sick.if you are a man why would you want some sweaty man all up on you. they need to be drug in the streets and killed.
 

OntarioVanMan

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>Gay is legal in Canada, Oh I see it is a crime now here in
>the US? :+


greg...your kidding???? Did I mis-spoke?

Actually gay/lesbian doesn't bother me at all. I've met some very nice gays/les in my lifetime. They don't bother me, I don't bother them.
 

arkjarhead

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i had a gay dude grab my booty one time and i tried to crack his skull but i just bruised it.
 

cheri1122

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>being gay should be a crime. I mean look in the Bible. Sodam
>and grumorah mean anything? queers are sick.if you are a man
>why would you want some sweaty man all up on you. they need
>to be drug in the streets and killed.

I won't dignify that with a response, except to point out that if you would look in the Bible yourself, you could at least copy the correct spelling.
 

RichM

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Those of you who know me know that I am a pretty conservative guy. But on the subject of Homosexuals of either sex I am quite tolerant. I think what two CONSENTING adults do in the privacy of their bedroom is their business and who am I to judge. Before I take hits I must mention that I am married to a female expediter (LOL) and have been for many years.

Now child molestors are a differnt story,those ##### be they gay or straight deserve the absolute maxiumun penalty that can be imposed by law. Unfortunately Female schoolteachers get a slap on the wrist when they fool around with a 13 year old boy but a Male teacher doing the same thing with a 13 year old girl is looking at 15-20.
 
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