US Appeals Court Rejects Obama Health Care Law

Camper

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Ironically, this is also an indictment of Romney since his Romney Care Law was the blueprint for Obama Care.


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US Appeals Court Rejects Obama Health Care Law
Published: Friday, 12 Aug 2011 | 1:31 PM ET
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By: Reuters
A U.S. appeals court ruled Friday that President Obama's health care law requiring Americans to buy health care insurance or face a penalty was unconstitutional, a blow to The U.S. Appeals Court for the 11th Circuit, based in Atlanta, found that Congress exceeded its authority by requiring Americans to buy coverage, but also ruled that the rest of the wide-ranging law could remain in effect.
The legality of the so-called individual mandate, a cornerstone of the 2010 health care law, is widely expected to be decided by the U.S. Supreme Court. The Obama administration has defended the provision as constitutional.
The case stems from a challenge by 26 U.S. states which had argued the individual mandate, set to go into effect in 2014, was unconstitutional because Congress could not force Americans to buy health insurance or face the prospect of a penalty.
"This economic mandate represents a wholly novel and potentially unbounded assertion of congressional authority: the ability to compel Americans to purchase an expensive health insurance product they have elected not to buy, and to make them re-purchase that insurance product every month for their entire lives," a divided three-judge panel said.
Obama and his administration had pressed for the law to help halt the steep increases in health care costs and expand insurance coverage to the more than 30 million Americans who are without it.
It argued that the requirement was legal under the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution. One of the three judges of the appeals court panel, Stanley Marcus, agreed with the administration in dissenting from the majority opinion.
The majority "has ignored the undeniable fact that Congress' commerce power has grown exponentially over the past two centuries and is now generally accepted as having afforded Congress the authority to create rules regulating large areas of our national economy," Marcus wrote.
Many other provisions of the health care law are already being implemented.
The decision contrasts with one by the U.S. Appeals Court for the 6th Circuit, based in Cincinnati, which had upheld the individual mandate as constitutional. That case has already been appealed to the Supreme Court.
The Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, based in Richmond, has yet to rule on a separate challenge by the state of Virginia.
 

chefdennis

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The BIG difference between Romney care and barry care is that Romney care was done on the STATE level where it should be done, not the NATIONAL level where it is unconstitutional...
 

Camper

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The BIG difference between Romney care and barry care is that Romney care was done on the STATE level where it should be done, not the NATIONAL level where it is unconstitutional...

They were done on different levels but the objectives are the same.

The bottom line is Romney's plan was the blueprint for Obama's and without Romney Care, Obama Care, at least in it's current form wouldn't have come to fruition.
 

chefdennis

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Camper wrote:

They were done on different levels but the objectives are the same.

Yes, but on the STATE level, it was totally legal...

The bottom line is Romney's plan was the blueprint for Obama's and without Romney Care, Obama Care, at least in it's current form wouldn't have come to fruition.

So if not Romney care, they would have drug up hillarys plan from when her and Bill tried the same thing...so to hold Romeny in contempt or to infer that, for barry using his plan as a blueprint is silly, they would have done something no matter what..it was what they planned to do ... the or who's plan make little difference, we still would have gotten this joke of a barrycare in some shape or form...

Oh and i am not a Romney fan at all...
 

layoutshooter

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They were done on different levels but the objectives are the same.

The bottom line is Romney's plan was the blueprint for Obama's and without Romney Care, Obama Care, at least in it's current form wouldn't have come to fruition.


I have NO use for ANY government health care. The States have more authority than the Feds do to have a health care plan. The Feds have NO authority under the US Constitution.

Now, too bad the SC can't just reject Obama!!!:p
 

muttly

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They were done on different levels but the objectives are the same.

The bottom line is Romney's plan was the blueprint for Obama's and without Romney Care, Obama Care, at least in it's current form wouldn't have come to fruition.

So your saying because they had Romney Care in Mass. that is why Obama Care was passed? Sorry I'm not buying that. Dems having been trying to get national healthcare for a long time. Remember Hillary Care from 1994 that they tried to push through?
 

Camper

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Camper wrote:

Yes, but on the STATE level, it was totally legal...

I'm not arguing the legality of Romney's Plan. All I'm saying is it's the blueprint for Obama Care



So if not Romney care, they would have drug up hillarys plan from when her and Bill tried the same thing...so to hold Romeny in contempt or to infer that, for barry using his plan as a blueprint is silly, they would have done something no matter what..it was what they planned to do ... the or who's plan make little difference, we still would have gotten this joke of a barrycare in some shape or form...

Well, we'll never know that since they had Romney Care to work with.

Oh and i am not a Romney fan at all...

I'm not a fan of any candidate with an (R) or (D) next to their name. Those are mere labels akin to pop warner team colors.
 

Camper

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So your saying because they had Romney Care in Mass. that is why Obama Care was passed? Sorry I'm not buying that. Dems having been trying to get national healthcare for a long time. Remember Hillary Care from 1994 that they tried to push through?

The idea of the individual mandate which is what the aforementioned article touched upon came directly from Romney Care. If memory serves me right, Hillary Care in '94 didn't include an individual mandate. However, Hillary did come out in favor of the mandate in 08, the year after Romney Care took effect.
 
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aristotle

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I have NO use for ANY government health care. The States have more authority than the Feds do to have a health care plan. The Feds have NO authority under the US Constitution.

Now, too bad the SC can't just reject Obama!!!:p

This leaves me puzzled. Don't you partake exclusively of government healthcare at the VA?
 
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