The way it SHOULD be.

[OntarioVanMan]

Accurracy in the press?....unbaised writing?....yeah ok....

No company owed by the government has ever made money....yes they maintain jobs BUT at what expense?...the hard workers tax dollars go to support the money losers....in Canada they are called Crown Corporations....like CN Rail...Via Rail....one time Trans Canada Airways now Air Canada....which was sold to the private sector....CN Rail loses money every year....on the other hand theres CP Rail...it makes millions in profit....Canada has smartened up in the last 20 years or so and sold off many of the CC's...realizing the errors of its way....to keep a company artificially alive cannot sustain a free market enviroment...
Now the American taxpayer is going to be a shareholder in these companies....Ford GM the banks...

 

[Pilgrim]

Yea, the press does tend to make a FEW mistakes every once in a while. Not to mention that they tend to "LEAN" a bit to the left. With SO many important things coming up, like nationalizing health care etc it would really be nice to get an accurate picture of BOTH sides of the issue so anything that is done or not done in the open with full understanding of what is being done to or for us. That will NEVER happen of course, but it would be nice. I can't wait to hear all the bogus or trumped up stats they use. No proof of those stats, the methodology used to come up with them. The controls to insure accuracy etc. Not that the press would ever lie about anything. Layoutshooter

Not sure, but I believe it was Mark Twain that said "if I don't read the newspaper, I'm uninformed - if I do read the newspaper, I'm misinformed."

A few other quotes:

Once a newspaper touches a story, the facts are lost forever, even to the protagonists.
- Norman Mailer

A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier.
- Henry Louis Mencken

Governments always tend to want not really a free press but a managed or well-conducted one.
- Mrs. Ann Ward Radcliffe

I hope we never live to see the day when a thing is as bad as some of our newspapers make it.
- Will Rogers

 

[Scott101]

Oh man Shooter, did you have to bring up Nationalized health care? I get a little sick to my stomach every time I think about it.

I just can't believe we are going to turn over the running of a health care system for 300 MILLION Americans when those goofballs sitting in Washington couldn't even run the Senate Food Service!

Senate Votes To Privatize Its Failing Restaurants - washingtonpost.com

I can only think of one large government program that works well and ironically it is the one program the democrats do want to cut.

 

[layoutshooter]

HEY!! I don't want National Health. I don't believe in all this socialism/marxism stuff. I would not trust the govenment to tie my shoe for me let alone run a health system. The government running health care makes as much sense as Ted Kennedy running a driving school. Layoutshooter

 

[OntarioVanMan]

HEY!! I don't want National Health. I don't believe in all this socialism/marxism stuff. I would not trust the govenment to tie my shoe for me let alone run a health system. The government running health care makes as much sense as Ted Kennedy running a driving school. Layoutshooter

boy you got that right....medicare- medicaid whatever is so messed up and thats just a sample.....can you imagine if they tried to manage full care....holy crap

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Thinking about it...if the government was so inclined...they should scrap it all....everything...and if they felt the need MAYBE they could do tax credits or something for the lower wage earner. The gov. wouldn't be in the health biz at all....

 

[layoutshooter]

The government has no business in the insurance business. Just look at the mess they caused with National Flood Insurance. We need to be slowly clearing flood plains not making easier to stay there or move into one. Layoutshooter

 

[OntarioVanMan]

thats what I said Joe....scrap all that is now...and IF they feel inclined use tax credits or something like that...keep it in private hands...


I agree...starting with N.O....just open the gates.....

 

[layoutshooter]

Scrap the income tax, no tax on health insurance. Better yet, outlaw health insurance and really watch the cost of health care come down. Then outlaw lawyers. Layoutshooter

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Scrap the income tax, no tax on health insurance. Better yet, outlaw health insurance and really watch the cost of health care come down. Then outlaw lawyers. Layoutshooter

*L* now you are just being unreasonable....thats ULTRA conserv

 

[layoutshooter]

LOL, and I am just getting started!!!! Layoutshooter

 

[cheri1122]

Shooter: suggesting we "get rid of the lawyers" is quite unreasonable, as you yourself recently suggested suing over the mislabeling of biodiesel fuel. Those lawyers sure come in handy when you get ripped off by some faceless corporation, eh?

 

[layoutshooter]

Cheri, no disrespect but, do you have any sense of humor at all? Surely you could see by the way OVM and I were going back and forth that it was tounge in cheek. Lighten up. Life sucks bad enough without being grumpy all the time. I laugh at these goobers all the time. Polititions are a big joke. Ya gotta laugh, crying will just make the flood deeper. Layoutshooter

 

[cheri1122]

Cheri, no disrespect but, do you have any sense of humor at all?
Ok, I confess: everything I've ever posted that was funny was actually written by a ghostwriter. I personally have zero sense of humor. Ever.
(Probably a birth defect, caused by the junk my Mother read while carrying me, like The National Enquirer.)
Surely you could see by the way OVM and I were going back and forth that it was tounge in cheek.
I didn't see that - time to get my eyes checked, I guess.
Lighten up. Life sucks bad enough without being grumpy all the time. I laugh at these goobers all the time. Polititions are a big joke.
So all your outrage at Obama is just funnin? Okaaay.....
Ya gotta laugh, crying will just make the flood deeper. Layoutshooter

It's precisely because I gotta laugh that I'm so fond of Moot, Turtle, Highway Star, Mr Goodtude, even Iceheadtrucker cracks me up, usually.
WHAT flood? All I can see is snow everywhere....

 

[layoutshooter]

Heavy snow is just a pre-planned flood, you should know that. Obama is a joke, I have 4 years of free material thanks to him AND someone to blame on EVERYTHING that goes wrong, anywhere on the earth. Gee, how could we have alllll this extreme cold and heavy snow with global warming? Lake Erie is frozen from bank to bank, two years running. Lake St. Clair as well and Saginaw Bay. More extreme cold in the area tonight. That will make the past two winters two of the coldest on record? Could ALGORE be wrong? Sure could be, maybe he should use the internet he invented to learn a little bit about "G" time. I can't wait for the next heavy mid-west flood so I can make stupid movies and statements how Obama blew up levees to kill white people. Just pickin on you, got nothin else to do till the movie starts at 8:15. Gee, the guy on the Weather Channel said it was sooo cold that trucks with diesel engines should run them all the time to prevent problems. Must not be a Dumbecrat, he never heard of no idle laws. Layoutshooter

 

[Turtle]

"The first thing we must do is kill all the lawyers," is probably the most misinterpreted line
from any of Shakespeare's works.

Then again, maybe not...

It's a line from Shakespeare's King Henry VI, where there's actually a very funny scene where "Dίck the Bucther" and his cohorts, "Smith" and "Jack Cade," are plotting for "Cade" to overthrow the throne and assume the position of King. There's long buildup where Cade makes vain boasts, which are summarily and quickly, almost in Vaudeville rim-shot fashion, cut down by the others. The sarcasm is thick enough to pour on pancakes.

Boasting like an Obama on a campaign whistle stop, Jack says, "Be brave, then; for your captain is brave, and vows reformation. There shall be in England seven half-penny loaves sold for a penny: the three-hoop'd pot shall have ten hoops; and I will make it felony to drink small beer: all the realm shall be in common; and in Cheapside shall my palfrey go to grass: and when I am king,- as king I will be,-

Where the others interrupt in unison with, "God save your majesty."


Appreciated and encouraged, Jack continues on in this vein:


"I thank you, good people:- there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers, and worship me their lord."


And here is where Dίck speaks the famous line.

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."


It's hilarious. He knows that the lawyers are the ones who must be eliminated if they are to overthrow the King, but it goes far beyond just eliminating those who might stand in the way of a contemplated revolution, or eliminating the "guardians of independent thinking" as they were known back then, killing the lawyers was offered up as the best way imagined yet to achieve Utopia.


A more modern version of this scene would be if they said, "When I'm the King, food and drink will be free, you won't need money, I'll pay for everything, there'll be two cars in every garage, and a chicken in every pot, AND NO LAWYERS!"

That's funny stuff, then and now.

Of course, right after that the tone changes, as the gang murders the clerk of Chatham, and does so with Cade making up his own version of the law to justify the murder, which relates ironically to the sarcastic scene earlier.

That Shakespeare, what a wacky guy.

 

[layoutshooter]

I seem to remember that there was a 5 year period in VA at the beging of the colonial days when it was illegal to live there if you were a lawyer. Must have been a time of great peace and prosperity. LOL. Funny, lawyer suck, many polititions are lawyers, politiotions suck. It fits!!!! Hoover 2 is in office now!!! Obama sucks!!! All hoovers suck. They vacuum your wallet empty!!!! HEHEHEHE Shakespear had it right. Nuke all lawyers. Layoutshooter

 

[aristotle]

Layoutshooter, I actually attended law school (Salmon P. Chase College of Law). Am I going to need a kevlar jacket? BTW, my classmates were indeed a snotty, contemptible lot for the most part.

 

[layoutshooter]

Naw, I don't think so. Not if you can recognize the fact that your fellow students were snotty etc. That is one of the first steps to recovery!!!! If you can see your failings there is hope for you!!! Besides, most of the guns I own will rip through a kevlar vest like butter. Good thing I like butter eh? LOL. It sounds like there is hope for you. Layoutshooter























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[aristotle]

I like to think the legal profession's loss is the trucking industry's gain. Anyways, I generally pass myself off as the banjo boy from the movie "Deliverance." My wife thinks it's a hoot.