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asjssl

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I meant ..denies evolution. .and confused by gravity...which being a person of his accomplishments seems odd.....
 
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JohnWC

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That's like saying the groundhog is pulling ahead of the duck, at the Kentucky Derby. Neither has any business even being in the race.


That's like saying the porcupine is pulling ahead of the squirrel - at the Kentucky Derby. :rolleyes:
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yep he makes better sense to me than everyone else up there
At lease thinks before he speaks
 
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cheri1122

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Lol
yep he makes better sense to me than everyone else up there
At lease thinks before he speaks

That he thinks before he speaks makes his statements even less defensible. Even the latest: "I wouldn't have let the shooter [in Umpqua] kill me." And "In that kind of situation, people should charge the shooter, because there's more of them than him."
First, the macho posturing is the wrong message, IMO. [How do you think that makes the survivors feel?]
And the idea that people should run into the fire of a lunatic to stop mass killings, rather than try to figure out how to stop them before they occur, is nuts.
 

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Have you even listened to Carson?:He's a much better choice than anything the dems have offered up.

Of course I've listened to him. I like him - he's a very good man, and a nice one, but his thoughts on several subjects [the science of evolution, the reason men have sex in prison, a flat tax for everyone] are contrary to fact and reason.
I especially dislike those who insist that everyone could do what[ever] they did, because that is also contrary to fact and reason, and Carson is one of those people. America would be exceptional if it were true, but it isn't - we have to decide we want it, and make it happen, by investing in people.
That's the message of Bernie Sanders, and I agree with it. Have you listened to what he has to say?
 

aristotle

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Of course I've listened to him. I like him - he's a very good man, and a nice one, but his thoughts on several subjects [the science of evolution, the reason men have sex in prison, a flat tax for everyone] are contrary to fact and reason.
I especially dislike those who insist that everyone could do what[ever] they did, because that is also contrary to fact and reason, and Carson is one of those people. America would be exceptional if it were true, but it isn't - we have to decide we want it, and make it happen, by investing in people.
That's the message of Bernie Sanders, and I agree with it. Have you listened to what he has to say?
America is exceptional in many, many, many ways. That we will survive the Obama years is proof positive.
 

JohnWC

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That he thinks before he speaks makes his statements even less defensible. Even the latest: "I wouldn't have let the shooter [in Umpqua] kill me." And "In that kind of situation, people should charge the shooter, because there's more of them than him."
First, the macho posturing is the wrong message, IMO. [How do you think that makes the survivors feel?]
And the idea that people should run into the fire of a lunatic to stop mass killings, rather than try to figure out how to stop them before they occur, is nuts.
Ha ha
Sounds better
I would stop one if I was in that position
 

cheri1122

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Ha ha
Sounds better
I would stop one if I was in that position

You believe you would, but there's no way of knowing what you'd do if it actually happened, which makes such statements really unhelpful.
Wouldn't it be better to be proactive, and try to prevent anyone having to find out that it's not so easy to charge someone who's shooting people?
 

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That he thinks before he speaks makes his statements even less defensible. Even the latest: "I wouldn't have let the shooter [in Umpqua] kill me." And "In that kind of situation, people should charge the shooter, because there's more of them than him."
First, the macho posturing is the wrong message, IMO. [How do you think that makes the survivors feel?]
And the idea that people should run into the fire of a lunatic to stop mass killings, rather than try to figure out how to stop them before they occur, is nuts.
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I saw this last night watching The Coneheads movie and immediately thought of Trump :JC-hysterical:

 

Pilgrim

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Bernie Sanders is an avowed socialist. Here's a snippet about one of his more notorious proposals and what it would cost. Following is a piece from the Boston Globe about Vermont's proposed single payer plan and its current status. These fantasies would work well until we run out of other people's money - but that's what socialism is all about, isn't it?

Price Tag of Bernie Sanders’s Proposals: $18 Trillion - WSJ
 

JohnWC

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You believe you would, but there's no way of knowing what you'd do if it actually happened, which makes such statements really unhelpful.
Wouldn't it be better to be proactive, and try to prevent anyone having to find out that it's not so easy to charge someone who's shooting people?
Your wrong there I'd defently give up my life to save someone's else's life
It's you liberal thinkers who only think of them selves
 

cheri1122

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Your wrong there I'd defently give up my life to save someone's else's life
It's you liberal thinkers who only think of them selves

It's easy to say what you would do, knowing the chances of being proven wrong are approximately the same as winning the lottery & being struck by lightning - on the same day.
The odds of being proven wrong on the second statement are definitely not in your favor, as proven by the statement I made above. Unless you think that trying to prevent anyone from having to face a mass killer constitutes "thinking only of ourselves". I think it proves exactly the opposite.
 

cheri1122

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Bernie Sanders is an avowed socialist. Here's a snippet about one of his more notorious proposals and what it would cost. Following is a piece from the Boston Globe about Vermont's proposed single payer plan and its current status. These fantasies would work well until we run out of other people's money - but that's what socialism is all about, isn't it?

Price Tag of Bernie Sanders’s Proposals: $18 Trillion - WSJ

Sanders is a Democratic Socialist, not a Socialist. There's a difference.
I don't know anything about Vermont's effort to switch to a single payer system, but I do know that health care as it exists now is neither accessible nor affordable for too many people, and something has to change. Ditto education.
If 'social' is a concept that you find distasteful, maybe you should consider why so many of our earliest 'states' are actually 'commonwealths'....
 
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