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RLENT

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What Do You Think About This Unimportant Question?

The answers don't matter in the grand scheme of things, but I find myself wondering. What do you think?

Is Judge Cannon taking the Labor Day weekend off before she returns to chambers to work on and/or issue her ruling in Donald J. Trump v. The United States? Or is she diligently sacrificing the three-day break she would otherwise have to labor away on the important task before her and get the ruling out ASAP?

Same question about the DOJ investigators. Are they taking the long weekend off, or are they sacrificing their three-day break to keep their shoulders on the wheel? They are free to do this since Judge Cannon did nothing to slow, complicate or stop the DOJ investigators cointinuing their work or might they be kicking back?

No idea on either.
 
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ATeam

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And if the court rules in favor for trump don't cry because he will be president again.
Trump usually loses in court. Even when he appeals cases to the U.S. Supreme Court, where there is a conservative majority of justices and three of them were appointed by Trump himself, he loses there too.

Why do you think that is?
 

RLENT

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Trump usually loses in court. Even when he appeals cases to the U.S. Supreme Court, where there is a conservative majority of justices and three of them were appointed by Trump himself, he loses there too.

Why do you think that is?

Possibly the Deep State, George Soros, or Antifa ?

Or maybe all three ?

"Q" will probably tell us very soon ...

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Pilgrim

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Looks like the case had merit after all.

"In addition to being deprived of potentially significant personal documents, which alone creates a real harm, plaintiff faces an unquantifiable potential harm by way of improper disclosure of sensitive information to the public,” Cannon wrote in her ruling."

 
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Turtle

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Trump usually loses in court. Even when he appeals cases to the U.S. Supreme Court, where there is a conservative majority of justices and three of them were appointed by Trump himself, he loses there too.

Why do you think that is?

"In June 2016, USA Today published an analysis of litigation involving Donald Trump, which found that over the previous three decades Trump and his businesses had been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal and state courts, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate. Of the 3,500 suits, Trump or one of his companies were plaintiffs in 1,900; defendants in 1,450; and bankruptcy, third party, or other in 150. Trump was named in at least 169 suits in federal court. Over 150 other cases were in the Seventeenth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida (covering Broward County, Florida) since 1983. In the 1,300 cases where the record establishes the outcome, Trump settled 175 times, lost 38, won 450, and had another 137 cases end with some other outcome. In the other 500 cases, judges dismissed plaintiffs' claims against Trump."

Soooo, of the 1300 cases where the record establishes a disposition, Trump lost 38 of them.
The Trump administration only won 47% of its Supreme Court cases, so maybe that's what you mean by usually. Ever since the high mark of 75% during Reagan the Supreme Court has had a downward trend of less and less broad deference to Presidents.
Clinton 64%
Jr Busch 62%
Obama 52%
Trump 47%
 
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ATeam

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What Do You Think About This Unimportant Question?

The answers don't matter in the grand scheme of things, but I find myself wondering. What do you think?

Is Judge Cannon taking the Labor Day weekend off before she returns to chambers to work on and/or issue her ruling in Donald J. Trump v. The United States? Or is she diligently sacrificing the three-day break she would otherwise have to labor away on the important task before her and get the ruling out ASAP?

Same question about the DOJ investigators. Are they taking the long weekend off, or are they sacrificing their three-day break to keep their shoulders on the wheel? They are free to do this since Judge Cannon did nothing to slow, complicate or stop the DOJ investigators cointinuing their work or might they be kicking back?
Now we know the judge is working over the long weekend. She issued her ruling today, Labor Day.
 
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ATeam

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"In June 2016, USA Today published an analysis of litigation involving Donald Trump, which found that over the previous three decades Trump and his businesses had been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal and state courts, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate. Of the 3,500 suits, Trump or one of his companies were plaintiffs in 1,900; defendants in 1,450; and bankruptcy, third party, or other in 150. Trump was named in at least 169 suits in federal court. Over 150 other cases were in the Seventeenth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida (covering Broward County, Florida) since 1983. In the 1,300 cases where the record establishes the outcome, Trump settled 175 times, lost 38, won 450, and had another 137 cases end with some other outcome. In the other 500 cases, judges dismissed plaintiffs' claims against Trump."

Soooo, of the 1300 cases where the record establishes a disposition, Trump lost 38 of them.
The Trump administration only won 47% of its Supreme Court cases, so maybe that's what you mean by usually. Ever since the high mark of 75% during Reagan the Supreme Court has had a downward trend of less and less broad deference to Presidents.
Clinton 64%
Jr Busch 62%
Obama 52%
Trump 47%
Thank you for the data. I stand corrected.
 
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ATeam

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Trump wins:
For now, yes. The judge ruled in Trump's favor. Now we wait to see if DOJ will appeal and if it does, what that result will be.

If DOJ does not appeal, the investigation will continue as before, except for the new rules that now apply to the items seized in the Mar-a-Lago search.

If DOJ does appeal, the investigation will continue as before, except for the new rules that now apply to the items seized in the Mar-a-Lago search, which will remain in effect unless the appeals court overrules the District Court.
 
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muttly

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Now we know the judge is working over the long weekend. She issued her ruling today, Labor Day.
And?
I lost power to my house, but the Tree trimmers are here working today on Labor Day cutting down branches and putting new lines up.
She may be a hardworking judge is all.
 

RLENT

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For now, yes. The judge ruled in Trump's favor. Now we wait to see if DOJ will appeal and if it does, what that result will be.

Yes ... it will be interesting to see if DOJ appeals.

On the one hand they have the law and existing precedent on their side.

On the other hand, the 11th Circuit is not exactly you'd pick if you had your choice among others.

If DOJ does not appeal, the investigation will continue as before, except for the new rules that now apply to the items seized in the Mar-a-Lago search.

True.

If DOJ does appeal, the investigation will continue as before, except for the new rules that now apply to the items seized in the Mar-a-Lago search, which will remain in effect unless the appeals court overrules the District Court.

Also true.
 

RLENT

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So easily #triggered ...

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I lost power to my house, but the Tree trimmers are here working today on Labor Day cutting down branches and putting new lines up.

:tearsofjoy:

She may be a hardworking judge is all.

Oh ... she's certainly hardworking alright ... but that isn't all.

She went out of her way to act as Trump's defense lawyer, making arguments his attorney's hadn't even made, similar to what the now-disgraced Cover Up General did who was proven to be a liar, and jumped through all sorts of hoops - including ignoring precedent - to arrive at a tortured ruling ... finding for the guy who nominated her to the bench.

Interestingly, those who claim to be so concerned about #BIASSSS!!! never called for her to recuse herself.

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muttly

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So easily #triggered ...

:tearsofjoy:



:tearsofjoy:



Oh ... she's certainly hardworking alright ... but that isn't all.

She went out of her way to act as Trump's defense lawyer, making arguments his attorney's hadn't even made, similar to what the now-disgraced Cover Up General did who was proven to be a liar, and jumped through all sorts of hoops - including ignoring precedent - to arrive at a tortured ruling ... finding for the guy who nominated her to the bench.

Interestingly, those who claim to be so concerned about #BIASSSS!!! never called for her to recuse herself.

:tearsofjoy:
What does Asha have to say?
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