The Trump Card...
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If you watch Trump enough, the whole "he's a narcissist" thing quickly becomes silly. He can dial up or down his bravado to suit the context. He also has no problem being self-deprecating. He uses ego as a tool. Actual narcissists don't have that level of control over their disorder and they can't modulate it as a tactic. That would take a level of self-awareness genuine narcissists don't possess. Also, Trump has an adoring family (and not in the "held hostage and must adore" fashion). His family genuinely love him and are very stable and successful themselves. That doesn't happen with people who suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Lots of the things people point to as narcissism! are clearly tactics he's learned in business and negotiating. If you've read the Art of the Deal, you'll see that he details his methods in that book for everyone to see. And you'll recognize them unambiguously as tactics and not narcissism. It's a mix of psychology and marketing. He also has lots of firm lines he won't cross. He doesn't insult groups of people and he always goes after leaders (official or unofficial) to weaken them. This is why his tactics work so great for him and also why when other people ignorantly try to copy him, they cross those lines and it turns out horribly (i.e., Hillary's "deplorables" comment and Schumer's threats against SCOTUS).
At this point, if you want to continue to attack Trump personally (instead of his policies), particularly with regards to NPD, and you haven't read his book, you're being disingenuous, and blissfully and willfully ignorant.
Lots of the things people point to as narcissism! are clearly tactics he's learned in business and negotiating. If you've read the Art of the Deal, you'll see that he details his methods in that book for everyone to see. And you'll recognize them unambiguously as tactics and not narcissism. It's a mix of psychology and marketing. He also has lots of firm lines he won't cross. He doesn't insult groups of people and he always goes after leaders (official or unofficial) to weaken them. This is why his tactics work so great for him and also why when other people ignorantly try to copy him, they cross those lines and it turns out horribly (i.e., Hillary's "deplorables" comment and Schumer's threats against SCOTUS).
At this point, if you want to continue to attack Trump personally (instead of his policies), particularly with regards to NPD, and you haven't read his book, you're being disingenuous, and blissfully and willfully ignorant.
So does Trump get fairly evaluated for his performance in handling the coronavirus or do the pom poms get in the way?
So far he gets a grade of D! From my perspective, that's being generous.
Every time he steps in front of a microphone he sounds like an idiot.
Wayne Gretzky: "I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where is been."
That's what's needed in this type of situation. Someone that's anticipating what's gong to happen rather than reacting like a lethargic rich guy that doesn't give a crap about the peasants.
So far he gets a grade of D! From my perspective, that's being generous.
Every time he steps in front of a microphone he sounds like an idiot.
Wayne Gretzky: "I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where is been."
That's what's needed in this type of situation. Someone that's anticipating what's gong to happen rather than reacting like a lethargic rich guy that doesn't give a crap about the peasants.
Totally agree, but what does anyone expect from a guy who thinks he is smarter than all of the experts at the CDC.
Its obviously a case of the pom poms getting in the way.
Hannity and Limbaugh are calling the whole virus issue a hoax.
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These people are demented!
Its obviously a case of the pom poms getting in the way.
Hannity and Limbaugh are calling the whole virus issue a hoax.
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These people are demented!
I'm not interested in debating the science. I understand this isn't the plague.
What cannot be denied is the economic impact this pandemic is having.
Dates are important. Exactly how did that unfold? What date did Trump take that action?
"....... irresponsible rhetoric."
I wonder who the VP is referring to?
Pence says there's been 'irresponsible rhetoric' from people downplaying the coronavirus
I wonder who the VP is referring to?
Pence says there's been 'irresponsible rhetoric' from people downplaying the coronavirus
I'm not going to do your Googling for you. But when he stopped air travel from China, the Democrats slammed him as racist, and said he overreacted. Now they're saying he isn't doing enough. Some are even blaming Trump for tune virus being in Europe. But that's nothing, China is blaming (or at least trying to) the US for the virus in the first place.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you can read Pence's mind and you can answer that question already.
Thanks for answering that directly.
Does everything that happens in this world have to be viewed through either a Republican / Democrat lens? I'm assuming it's much easier to frame discussions that way. Either you believe what I/we do .... or you're against me/us.
In reality, major airlines started to cancel flights days before Trump got on the bandwagon. He's been lagging behind throughout this entire process. He hasn't shown himself to be the dexterous guy that knows what to do in difficult situations, the guy that takes charge. Much of the anxiety is being created by his poor management.
Go ahead, keep beating that bogus partisan drum ...
All ya gotta do is watch the last minute of that interview and it's pretty obvious who Pence is referring to.
Uncharacteristically the word "you" has been used a few times in the last couple of messages.
Watching how poorly his royal highness is handling this must be having it's affect.
Well he knows that the only thing he has going for him is the economy and because of the virus fears, the stock market is tanking so he takes the same route most people do nowadays (regardless of party) deny it until the end. No different than if he was CEO of a large corporation, run the ship into the ground, as long as he is able to get his bonus.
With that being said, I dont blame Trump for the stock market, that blame goes to all the impatient people who play in the wall street casino.And if anyone actually believes that any corporations value acually decreased this week, I have a bridge to sell you.....
No, he was on it quick while the Dems were playing in their impeachment sandbox.
I don't know the dates by heart and I haven't written them down.
Absolutely not. COVID-19 isn't even remotely political, nor is the response. But as Democrats say, never let a good crisis go to waste, and the immediately, almost in knee-jerk fashion, politicized it, because they thought they could use it to hurt Trump.
In really reality, United Airlines announced on Jan 28th that they would stop flights between their US hubs of San Francisco International, Newark Liberty International, Chicago O'Hare International and Washington Dulles International, and the Chinese cities of Beijing, Hong Kong and Shanghai. The cancelled flights would begin on Feb 1 and would resume on Feb 8. This meant United flights to and from China would be reduced from about 12 per day to about 8 or 9 flights per day. Delta and American followed suit and announced a reduction in flights to and from China, also beginning on Feb 1.
On the same day, prior to United's announcement, Trump told the airlines that he may suspend all air travel from China if the disease becomes a bigger public health threat in the United States. Trump took his cues from the CDC, who issued a non-essential travel warning for travelers going to China.
On Jan 29th, one European airline, I don't remember which one and I don't feel like looking it up, announced they were stopping, on Feb 1, all flights to and from China.
On Jan 31st, after consulting the CDC and other medical experts, Trump announced (actually, it was HHS Secretary Azar) a public health emergency and put in place the travel restrictions from China.
For that action, the Democrats said he overreacted and that he was, obviously a racist.
My personal opinion is, the dropped the ball and WAY under-reacted. ON Jan. 24, a week before the travel restrictions, the CDC confirmed two cases of the coronavirus in the U.S. from people who had returned from Wuhan, China, where the outbreak began. On that day is when all air traffic from China should have stopped. In my opinion.
What, exactly, do you think he should have done sooner? Because, if you look at what Trump has done, compared to what the leaders of other countries have done, he's been way out in front.
Without specifics, that's just word salad that doesn't mean anything. But if you look at the difficult situations he's been faced with over the last 3 years, he's handled them very well. He got monster-owned by Pelosi and Schumer on the government shutdown, but even out of that beatdown, he still managed to do and end-around and get money for the wall. THe Mueller Probe and being impeached is kinda of a difficult situation, and he did well there. He had Comey and a long list of character engage in a coup and he seemed pretty dexterous there. North Korea, so far so good. Iran, Syria, ISIS, lots of things over there have done gangbusters better than previous presidents.
With a health emergency like the coronavirus, he actually has the least amount of stuff to do. He can restrict travel and close borders, and pick the right people and set the table for the experts and professionals to do their job. He's done all of that.
No. All of the anxiety is being created by Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I would if you'd just let go of it.