The Future of the Republican Party and USA

RLENT

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By one t shirt. Lol

Nope ... you ignoring the rest of the types I wrote about in my reply.

Pay better attention next time.

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Mollie was right.

About something ... somewhere ... at some point or another in time ... probably.

As far as anything political, highly unlikely ...since it has been demonstrated time and again she's a partisan hack ... who traffics in lies, deflection, misdirection, and disinformation.

That's why she's affectionately referred to as "Federalist Faceplant Mollie" by Dr. Wheeler.

Can understand why some folks might be fans though.

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muttly

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Nope ... you ignoring the rest of the types I wrote about in my reply.

Pay better attention next time.

:tearsofjoy:



About something ... somewhere ... at some point or another in time ... probably.

As far as anything political, highly unlikely ...since it has been demonstrated time and again she's a partisan hack ... who traffics in lies, deflection, misdirection, and disinformation.

That's why she's affectionately referred to as "Federalist Faceplant Mollie" by Dr. Wheeler.

Can understand why some folks might be fans though.

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Please don’t lie about Mollie.
I also highly doubt she cares at all what “Dr” Emptywheelhouse has to say about her.
 

muttly

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First of all, the country hasn't been taken, but in the minds of many conservatives it's slipping away. Books have been written about the above bullet points, but here are a few simple answers that can be offered for consideration:
  • They want to take control back from socialist Democrat politicians and liberal media moguls. Consider crime, drugs, our pathetic public schools, misguided economic policies (inflation, jobs), our open southern borders where hoards of criminals and tons of Chinese-made fentanyl pour across unencumbered every day. Much of this is silenced or ignored by the mainstream media and social media moguls who operate as de facto publishers of carefully controlled information. And let's not forget the degenerative woke social norms that are starting to infect our culture: eg, how many sexes are there now?
  • Themselves their children and future generations, obviously.
  • Here's a blinding glimpse of the obvious - to improve and restore the quality of life that makes the USA unique.
  • Yes, we already have a country and the rest of the world wants to come here, uninvited and unencumbered. However, we're not the world's homeless shelter.
The patriots and citizens to whom LDB referred will have their say at their ballot boxes in nine months. We'll see how that turns out.
The post above pretty much covered the areas of major concern.
For me it’s the increase in crime in major cities that will spill over and increase into the suburbs. The “progressive” prosecutors that talk about equity instead of equality and go easy on the violent criminals. The small bail for these criminals enable them to get out of jail and commit more violent crimes against citizens and police.

Other areas such as CRT in schools teaches the young to think they are the oppressed and fosters a great resentment that ultimately will lead to actions more crime.

The economic policies that exacerbate high inflation and gas prices which have the greatest effect on lower economic people.

An influx at the border will create even a larger problem with wages and employment as they compete with them for those jobs.

Hopefully in a few months people will send a message at the voter’s box that this country’s course we are on isn’t sustainable and needs to be corrected.

Some highlights below illustrate the wrong course we are on:
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danthewolf00

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The high crime cases.....
The thug that was given a 1 thousand dollar bond after beating his girlfriend and almost running her over.....only to get out and drive his SUV into a parade on Thanksgiving last year.
 
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danthewolf00

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High crime and high taxes in California and new York.
High crime in these citys.
Chicago
Detroit
Baltimore
Portland
Seattle
Atlanta
And you then add in the defund the police.....the cops are leaving and going to Republican run states and citys because they know they will have the police officers backs.
 

ATeam

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First of all, the country hasn't been taken, but in the minds of many conservatives it's slipping away. Books have been written about the above bullet points, but here are a few simple answers that can be offered for consideration:
  • They want to take control back from socialist Democrat politicians and liberal media moguls. Consider crime, drugs, our pathetic public schools, misguided economic policies (inflation, jobs), our open southern borders where hoards of criminals and tons of Chinese-made fentanyl pour across unencumbered every day. Much of this is silenced or ignored by the mainstream media and social media moguls who operate as de facto publishers of carefully controlled information. And let's not forget the degenerative woke social norms that are starting to infect our culture: eg, how many sexes are there now?
  • Themselves their children and future generations, obviously.
  • Here's a blinding glimpse of the obvious - to improve and restore the quality of life that makes the USA unique.
  • Yes, we already have a country and the rest of the world wants to come here, uninvited and unencumbered. However, we're not the world's homeless shelter.
The patriots and citizens to whom LDB referred will have their say at their ballot boxes in nine months. We'll see how that turns out.
I appreciate your thoughtful answer. Three responses:

1. Is it correct to say that behind the conservative desires you detailed above, lies a desire for a set of values and lifestyle that works for them and is assumed to be right for all others; regardless of the cultural preferences and views of those who are not conservative?

2. The consensus is that the upcoming mid-term elections will result in the Republicans taking the House and possibly gaining control of the Senate, but not gaining a veto-proof majority in Congress. That's called divided government and it's something that is relatively common in recent years. Democrats enjoyed a "blue wave" in the House when Trump held office. Republicans may enjoy a "red wave" as Biden holds office. 2022 seems likely to produce yet another iteration of divided government.

And that's not to say united government is the answer. In times of united government, government has seemed to be surprisingly ineffective in bringing out real change. Look at our collapsing bridges for example. For years, we've known they need attention, and for years, they have been neglected. Everyone, liberals, conservatives and indepentents alike, need and use bridges. Why can't we have reliable bridges? Everyone thinks it wise that money pools like Social Security and highway trust funds be funded as intended, but every chance they get, politicians of all stripes loot those funds to spend that money in other ways. Why can't we trust our elected officials to leave that money alone so it can perform it's intended purpose?

3. One thing not often said about the illegal immigration situation is the fact that many people on the street and in power turn a blind eye to it because they like the benefits. In our mall where our gym is, there is a Mexican restaurant where the staff is overwhelmingly illegal immigrants. These people come to America to improve their lives and make money to send home to their families. They patronize the business in our mall and the community. Those businesses willingly take their money. The people who dine at the restaurant fill the place up because they like the food and service these people provide. The local police are fully aware of this illegal community and do not object or enforce anything against them because they are well-behaved. Maybe someday federal authorities will raid the place, but until then, it's business as usual and everyone's OK. The conservatives who wave Trump flags on the corner just one block away do not protest this restaurant or their workers.

It seems safe to assume that this is repeated millions of time in businesses nationwide. Indeed, it is probably likely that some of the businesses that bring in illegal labor are owned by conservative owners.
 
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Pilgrim

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... there is a Mexican restaurant where the staff is overwhelmingly illegal immigrants. These people come to America to improve their lives and make money to send home to their families. They patronize the business in our mall and the community. Those businesses willingly take their money. The people who dine at the restaurant fill the place up because they like the food and service these people provide. The local police are fully aware of this illegal community and do not object or enforce anything against them because they are well-behaved. Maybe someday federal authorities will raid the place, but until then, it's business as usual and everyone's OK. The conservatives who wave Trump flags on the corner just one block away do not protest this restaurant or their workers.

It seems safe to assume that this is repeated millions of time in businesses nationwide. Indeed, it is probably likely that some of the businesses that bring in illegal labor are owned by conservative owners.
It's a well-known fact that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and it's members have long supported and encouraged illegal immigration as a source of cheap labor - Tyson Foods being a typical example. Big Business loves paying cheap wages whenever possible - especially in cash. The fact that American citizens' wages are depressed by this illegal practice means nothing to them. If they happen to get caught and have to pay fines, back taxes, etc, it's just part of their overhead expense. In a few rare instances guilty owners of smaller businesses have gone to jail, probably because they supported the wrong local politician in their last election.

The remittances highlighted above is a different story. According to a Feb 1st article in the L.A. Times, money sent back to Mexico totaled $51.6 BILLION, with no federal taxes imposed. This is money that should have gone into local and state economies, and would've especially made a difference during the past year. Only OK taxes these remittances, at a rate of 1%.

"Imagine if Congress levied a tax on wire transfers, the majority of which are remittances flowing out of the United States. A mere 1 percent tax on remittances to Mexico this past year alone would yield $500 million dollars. According to the World Bank, $69.9 billion flowed out of the U.S. as remittance payments in 2020. Taxing that figure at 1 percent would yield almost $700 million in revenue for the U.S. Treasury, with the possibility that revenues continue increasing year after year."

It's safe to say we all know of anecdotal examples of immigrants - legal and illegal - who make a positive contribution to our communities. However, does this offset the harm done by the millions of criminals and social parasites coming across the southern border along with the drugs, cartels and who knows what else? Maybe we should ask the ranchers and other people who live in TX, AZ and NM along the Mexican border.
 
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