The Early Voting Results Are In

Turtle

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Dixville Notch is an unincorporated community in Dixville township of Coos County, New Hampshire. They vote on Election day just after midnight. 40 reporters were on hand to record the 8 votes. Becuz, they didn't want to miss anything.

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You can see that Clinton trounced Trump with a 4-2 vote. Gary Johnson got 1 vote, as did Mitt Romney.

In nearby nearby Millsfield, NH which also voted at midnight, Trump trounced Clinton with a 16-4 vote. Bernie Sanders got 1 vote.

But wait, there's more! In a nail-biter, bed-wetter in Hart's Location, NH, Clinton rallied in a dramatic last second buzzer-beater comeback to beat Trump 17-14.

Soooo, with all of the overnight in-person voting complete, Trump carries a seven-vote lead over Clinton in New Hampshire, 32-25.

I realize that by reporting these early voting results before the polls close in New Hampshire it could have a dramatic effect on voter turnout. I also realize that it could be less-than dramatic, imperceptible at most.
 
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Looks like more will be available ... even before the biggies self-imposed blackouts until poll closings are lifted:
Oh, yeah. Slate posted a great big FU to Congress and journalists and the Election Pool, and rationalized it through lies, ignorance, or both (the real reason is money, though). They note 2 or 3 times how the publishing of real-time results suppressing voter turnout is unsupported by research, and that's probably true. There likely hasn't been any formal research on it. Yet the reality is, the first time this happened voter turnout was down by 30-40 percent west of the Rockies once the race had been called.

I don't think it will have as dramatic an effect this year, because half the country has already voted. But if there are any signs that their early projection reports are affecting voters one way or the other, especially in the down ballot Congressional races, the citizens of the West will once again scream and Congress will once again make noise, and they'll have the SCOTUS precedent rulings on their side.

Slate and Vice aren't exactly major players in the news business, so it depends on how the member networks of the Election Pool decide to report things. If we hear a lot of "According to Slate (or Vice, or Votecastr), then it could get ugly for a mass media the public is already distrustful of.
 

skyraider

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MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE AND GOD BLESS AMERICA,,,,,,
Donald Trump, defying the pundits and polls to the end, defeated Hillary Clinton in Tuesday’s presidential election and claimed an establishment-stunning victory that exposes the depth of voter dissatisfaction – and signals immense changes ahead for American policy at home and abroad.

Seventeen months after the billionaire tycoon’s Trump Tower entrance into the race, the first-time candidate once dismissed by the political elite will become the 45th president, Fox News projects.

Speaking to cheering supporters early Wednesday morning at his victory party in New York City, the Republican candidate and now president-elect said Clinton called to congratulate him, and Fox News confirms she has conceded. Despite their hard-fought campaign, Trump praised Clinton for her service and said “it is time for us to come together as one united people.”

“I will be president for all Americans,” Trump vowed, after a brief introduction by running mate Mike Pence.

TRUMP'S AGENDA: WHAT HIS ELECTION MEANS FOR AMERICA

Sounding a call to “reclaim our country’s destiny,” Trump declared: “The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer. … America will no longer settle for anything less than the best.”

Trump will be the oldest president in U.S. history, entering the Oval Office at age 70. With her defeat, Clinton falls short in her second bid to become the first female president of the United States.

Though Clinton called Trump, her campaign initially did not concede defeat. Earlier, her campaign chairman John Podesta addressed supporters nearby in New York and said several states were “too close to call.”

Clinton herself did not appear at the rally. Podesta had urged supporters to “head home” and said they would not have “anything more to say tonight.”

Amid Trump’s victory, Republicans also were projected to hold onto their majority in the House and Senate, improving Trump’s chances of advancing his agenda in office.

A surge of support in key battlegrounds – and especially surprise victories in states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin – helped propel Trump to victory. The GOP nominee built a commanding lead early on with wins in heavily contested North Carolina, Florida, Ohio and Iowa.

Clinton won her share of battlegrounds, including Virginia and Nevada and Colorado, but could not make up for Trump’s strong performance in other states thought to favor the Democrat.

The billionaire businessman’s victory marked a remarkable upset and turnaround, after he had been complaining amid a rough patch just weeks ago the vote could be “rigged” against him.

Clinton was still thought to have the clear advantage in the electoral map going into Tuesday’s vote, yet the polls had been tightening in the race’s closing days.

His victory could demonstrate just how much the dynamics were shifting in his favor – and perhaps how his true support was elusive all along to pollsters and others gauging the race.

Without question, his bid was helped over the last two weeks by a burst of setbacks for his opponent.

Eleven days before the election, FBI Director James Comey announced the bureau was revisiting the investigation into Clinton’s personal email server use while secretary of state, after discovering new messages on the laptop of disgraced ex-Rep. Anthony Weiner, the estranged husband of a top Clinton aide. He closed the case again on Sunday, but the political damage may have been done. And the WikiLeaks release of emails hacked from Podesta’s account became a constant distraction for the campaign, as the messages revealed infighting, internal concerns about the Clinton family’s foundation and even evidence that the now-head of the Democratic National Committee leaked town hall questions to Clinton during the primaries.

This at times overshadowed the numerous allegations of sexual harassment and assault against Trump that came out in October (which he denies), following leaked footage from over a decade ago showing Trump making crude comments about women.

Trump’s victory marks the second time Clinton was thwarted in her bid to become the first female U.S. president, having been defeated by President Obama in their 2008 primary race.

But Trump has been able to defy expectations from the start. He defeated a deep field of 16 competitors during the Republican primaries – stitching together a motivated coalition of voters invigorated by his outsider, populist message; throwing his rivals off their talking points during a raucous marathon of debates; and commanding media attention throughout with his unpredictable, learn-as-he-goes campaign style.

He also defied party orthodoxy, railing against free-trade deals like NAFTA and the Trans Pacific Partnership and staking out a sometimes-confusing set of positions on foreign policy that may yet evolve. Democrats have criticized him heavily for statements expressing admiration for Russia’s Vladimir Putin and a desire to rebuild ties with Moscow.

Trump was aided by the infrastructure of the GOP, but his campaign never came close to the juggernaut operation mounted by Clinton. While she entered the final stretch of the race with an army of high-powered surrogates, Trump’s campaign was driven mainly by him, an inner circle of family members and a rotating set of top campaign advisers. Surrogates like retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani advocated aggressively for the Republican nominee, but he remained at odds with many influential elected Republicans who in some cases – as with House Speaker Paul Ryan – endorsed him, but only reluctantly. His stances on trade as well as his hardline immigration proposals – including variations on a plan to suspend Muslim immigration from certain countries – also made party brass uncomfortable.

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The late emergence of a 2005 tape showing him making crude comments about women led some congressional Republicans to abandon him entirely. But even the biggest controversies seemed only to ding Trump, whose resilience in the polls could be credited to a movement of grassroots supporters who seemed to have little interest in the nominee’s tensions with the GOP establishment and saw him as the true change-maker in the ele
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skyraider

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Might be a bad sign for Hillary I always thought NE was a democratic area
Like I said many times..... A great many Democratic faithful do not like Hillary....... it would be interesting to know the amount of crossover voting there was....

Congratulations to President-elect Trump...




And just think of all the so called movie stars that will be leaving the USA
 
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OntarioVanMan

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you hear his speech this morning?....
From: I am going to put you in jail...
to: we should Thank her for all her years in service...
 

OntarioVanMan

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Iam thinking the timing could not have been worse for the Clinton campaign....the governments own system might have been her last minute demise.....Many 10,s of 000's of healthcare renewals were sent out the last 2 weeks for the new years policys....

wouldn't it be ironic if Obamacare was her undoing...LOL
 

davekc

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Iam thinking the timing could not have been worse for the Clinton campaign....the governments own system might have been her last minute demise.....Many 10,s of 000's of healthcare renewals were sent out the last 2 weeks for the new years policys....

wouldn't it be ironic if Obamacare was her undoing...LOL

She contributed of course but it will sink either way. I don't think it is sustainable in its current form. Will be interesting to see how it is addressed.
 

OntarioVanMan

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many year ago when I first heard the idea of healthcare being floated around I even told JuJu this is going to fail...and it will come to pass in the present form.....Trump is on the right course.....Let the states manage it as they do Medicare and each state can fund it as they have the money...some states will have better benefits and others not so much....like up in Canada...each province runs its own program with the funds available...the Feds are just kind of an overseer...
 

JohnWC

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Yea but charging one person extra so somebody gets it free isn't right Medicare should be a separate system and alow us to make a real choice of our healthcare as we feel we need a can afford
 
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OntarioVanMan

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Yea but charging one person extra so somebody gets it free isn't right Medicare should be a separate system and alow us to make a real choice of our healthcare as we feel we need a can afford
That the way it's always been tho
Insurance premiums being higher to help pay for the non payer
 

skyraider

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My brother n law just retired , obama care monthly premium is $2500 a month for 2 people,,,,good deal,,,lol
 

davekc

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Trump is right on one thing. Sell health insurance across state lines and watch the prices plunge.
 
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davekc

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My brother n law just retired , obama care monthly premium is $2500 a month for 2 people,,,,good deal,,,lol

In the same boat. We are cancelled by BCBS in December. Now the option on exchange is just under 1500 for two for 12k deductible and 50 percent coverage. Wow what a deal. For 80 percent coverage (the highest) and 5k deductible, 2400 a month. This is with no subsidies since we don't qualify.
So....will pay penalty, and buy a real policy for half that amount outside of the exchanges.
Looking forward to Trump dismantling that disaster.
 

skyraider

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D-Day came just in time,,,,about 70 more days and maybe the ink pen will strike a new freedom for the Americans and idiotic government will slow down or be erased by Trump. President Trump has a tough road to fix, lots of potholes to repair,imho.
 
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