Such I great post I hate to see it buried in the soapbox

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DougTravels

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Re: Feds disrupt skinhead plot to assassinate Obama

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Ever see The Dead Zone with Christopher Walken? Let me ask you the same thing he asked his shrink... In hindsight, if you could assassinate Hitler before he came to power, and you knew what would happen, would you?

If I would've known 10 yrs ago, that Obama would be president, and run this country into a socialist grave, I would be in jail now for murder. And it has nothing to do with him being black. It has to do with him being Marxist.

BTW... Neo-Nazis hate communists more, IMO, than they hate other races. Maybe THAT has something to do with it?
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LakeSide

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If I would've known 10 yrs ago, that Obama would be president, and run this country into a socialist grave

Science fiction with a dose of "crystal ball" fortune telling

I'd probably be using those kinda talents to pick the numbers
for one of those multi-million Mega Lotteries.
 

themagicoen

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I've seen this term thrown around a few times so I decided to look it up -

While there are many theoretical and practical differences among the various forms of Marxism, most forms of Marxism share these principles:

* a belief that capitalism is based on the exploitation[3] of workers by the owners of the means of production
* a belief that people's consciousness of the conditions of their lives reflects the dominant ideology which is in turn shaped by material conditions and relations of production
* an understanding of class in terms of differing relations of production, and as a particular position within such relations
* an understanding of material conditions and social relations as historically malleable
* a view of history according to which class struggle, the evolving conflict between classes with opposing interests, structures each historical period and drives historical change
* a belief that this dialectical historical process will ultimately result in a replacement of the current class structure of society with a system that manages society for the good of all, resulting in the dissolution of the class structure and its support (more often than not including the nation state)

Are any of these things really that bad? I would believe views of these would be great for a leader to have in the state this country is. But that's just my opinion, he has my vote.

Also they keep putting him as a Socialist, so what does that mean when you get down to it?

Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.[1]

So he believes that there shouldn't be 5% of the population shouldn't control 95% of the wealth in a country. I might be off here but the point is made. I personally isn't happy as my retirement savings are lost on Wall-Street while Leamon Brothers and AIG executives go on a massive vacation to California for 100ks of my tax dollars, which they got thru the bail out program. Just thought I would share.
 
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Turtle

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"Such I great post I hate to see it buried in the soapbox"

Considering that the thread contains nothing whatsoever about expediting, the Soapbox is precisely where it belongs. And by you moving a portion of it here, out of context, and without comment on your part other than going out of your way to point out the post was made by a moderator you have a history of having problems with, this is, in my not so humble opinion, that this is trolling pure and simple, not to mention a back-handed personal attack at an EO member and moderator by virtue of it being posted out of context. If you have a persona ax to grind with Hawk, do it in Private Messaging, not here. You should consider yourself unbelievably fortunate if you aren't banned forever.
 

piper1

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Belongs in the soapbox, those who enjoy reading this kind of stuff can go there to find it, I agree with Turtle, move it back.
 

LakeSide

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Considering that the thread contains nothing whatsoever about expediting, the Soapbox is precisely where it belongs.


Then you'd also might want to consider the same "fate" for this non-expediting thread [below] ? Soapbox ......?? Any question at all ?

There is a proposal to significantly increase taxes on "business". Those supporting it wrongly think they can tax "business" and generate positive results. Wrong. Who is "business"? GM? Dow? Sony? No. "Business" is Fred Smith, Al Jones, Mary Brown and millions of others who are shareholders and/or business owners and/or customers of the "business". You and I are "business". Acme Widget and Gizmo Supply and Repair is a nice $473,000 a year small "business" employing 6 people. If, in 2 weeks, we authorize this ill advised tax increase the burden of that increase will result in 1 person being laid off and a reduction in sales and revenue due to all the layoffs in all the other "businesses". For us this results in much less freight to haul. The decision in the next 2 weeks will determine whether we have economic and tax decisions to promote "business" and thereby our livelihood or stifle "business" and us.
 

Black Sheep

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I would think that if someone owns a truck, is an independant contractor, and drives under contract for an expedite carrier he would qualify as being a small businessman. This individual should be concerned about taxes and other expenses associated with his expedite business.
 

arkjarhead

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Then you'd also might want to consider the same "fate" for this non-expediting thread [below] ? Soapbox ......?? Any question at all ?

Actually what Leo said there has a lot to do with expediting. If taxes are increased on small business owners who will that effect? Expediters, and most people here are small business owners. Even if you are a sub-contractor you are business owner in a sense. Meaning you are providing your services (operating the vehicle) to a customer (owner of the vehicle) and you are on a 1099. Think about it. Tax increases on small business owners effect most everyone here.
 

davekc

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The Leo post is fine and DOES have to do with expediting.
It is also not a baiting post.
It stays where it is.
 
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DougTravels

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It is a great post! Everyone should know exactly how hawk feels as long as hawk puts it out here. In fact I sent a link of it to the Secret Service to see if they like it as much as me!
 

arkjarhead

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If you had ever seen the show T-Hawk was referring to you would understand more of what he is saying. The main character in the show, John Smith, somehow received a special power after being in a coma for 6 years after having a wreck with a t/t. He can touch someone or shake their hand and see their future. On numerous occasions he shakes this guy's hand that is running for the Maine State Senate who is always talking about being President and John sees Armageddon. What he sees is hellfire raining down on DC amongst other things. It's hard to explain if you haven't seen the show.

Also you shouldn't twist someone's words and bust them out like that. It's not the grown up thing to do. Plus it is a respect issue. You should have respect for others and if you feel they are out of line you speak to them about it through private means, not all out in the open. From what I understand T-Hawk is running on his own. What if someone from another carrier that he gets work from, from time to time gets on here and reads your misrepresentation? It could hurt his business. You have to think about those things when you post something about yourself and others online.

Man, that Business Communication class was tuition well spent. I'm still in the class and I'm already using what I've learned. Seriously though, people do look at things such as this site, MySpace, and Facebook and form opinions about others based on what that person has posted about their self and what others post about them. What a person posts about themselves is on them, but they can't control what you do. I'm getting off of my Soapbox now. Please have a good day and come again.
 

arkjarhead

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It is a great post! Everyone should know exactly how hawk feels as long as hawk puts it out here. In fact I sent a link of it to the Secret Service to see if they like it as much as me!

I hope you get the boot. I enjoy hearing others thought and opinions, but if you sent that to the Secret Service you were being malicious , imo. Doing stuff like that could result in him being hasseled to put it lightly. But when it all comes out that there is no real threat after he has been detained, questioned, and all that I'm sure he'll have grounds to sue you. Personally, I hope he sues you pants off. Maybe then you will learn to grow up and play like a big boy.
 

Turtle

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It is a great post!
I dunno. Seems a little blowhard-ish and chest-pounding to me. If he's seriously serious about it, 10 years later wouldn't be a deterent now that he knows what he knows, and now that he can see the future with clarity and all that. I don't think he's serious, tho.

Everyone should know exactly how hawk feels as long as hawk puts it out here.
Huh? Why? Not everyone cares. Why should everyone know?

In fact I sent a link of it to the Secret Service to see if they like it as much as me!
You do realize, of course, that if you didn't actually send it to the Secret Service, that by saying so here you are trolling again (as well as committing an actual crime, BTW, as Ark has pointed out).
 
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arkjarhead

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I am amazed by some people's thought process. If someone was actually serious about causing a prominent public figure harm in the present tense why would they talk about it in an open forum? Let's get real, please.
 

LDB

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You guys just don't get it. If it had been a liberal saying it about Bush it would have been a benign comment made under the auspices of the first Amendment. Because it's a comment made by a conservative regarding the most Marxist candidate in history it's threatening hate speech. :rolleyes:
 

MSinger

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You guys just don't get it. If it had been a liberal saying it about Bush it would have been a benign comment made under the auspices of the first Amendment. Because it's a comment made by a conservative regarding the most Marxist candidate in history it's threatening hate speech. :rolleyes:



Ding,ding,ding!!! We have a winner!!! Excellent post, Leo!!
 

buckeyewildman

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your kidding me right Doug playing like a big boy that probaly won,t happen he gets his hands slapped and what does he do so far nothing but pout and try to what ever he can to get the attention on him
 
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