Correct. Hauling freight is a business-to-business endeavor. It's all about the money.
Pilot/J accused of rebate fraud, Millions of $
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Correct. Hauling freight is a business-to-business endeavor. It's all about the money.
mcavoy33
Seasoned Expediter
I heard about the Pilot debacle when I got an
Email from EO about it. I read only this page but I'm a little disappointed there doesn't seem to be a grassroots movement to boycott Pilot.
I would have thought that people would naturally stick by there brethren and not support a company that is willing to steal from its "loyal" customers.
Email from EO about it. I read only this page but I'm a little disappointed there doesn't seem to be a grassroots movement to boycott Pilot.
I would have thought that people would naturally stick by there brethren and not support a company that is willing to steal from its "loyal" customers.
I do stick by my brethren. I am much closer to the people behind the counter or those that deliver the fuel than the ones with an office. A boycott would harm those closest to my status in life.
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zorry
Veteran Expediter
I also am amazed by the lack of disgust with the whole deal.
To me the dealbreaker is did Jimmie know.
If he knew, I wouldn't want to deal with the scum or help him earn another penny.
If he didn't know, if I was a big customer I'd want him to get his house in order.
Since those here don't feel violated, few seem upset.
To me the dealbreaker is did Jimmie know.
If he knew, I wouldn't want to deal with the scum or help him earn another penny.
If he didn't know, if I was a big customer I'd want him to get his house in order.
Since those here don't feel violated, few seem upset.
mcavoy33
Seasoned Expediter
When I was OTR, I was a very loyal Pilot / flying J customer even though everyone here ranted about how much better TA's were. The convenience of so many were huge and the overall quality was mostly consistent.
But I took it as an attack on the industry. I realize that it doesn't affect most of us, I just don't want to support a business like that.
As for the workers, if you support another chain and that chain grows, they will hire workers. If Pilot treated their most loyal customers this way, they probably screw their employees over as well.
The family owned truck stop across the street probably treats their employees better.
Why would this be any different then say...doing loads for TST expedite? A Transforce company wholy owned by the Sapputo crime family...every time you do a load for them, you are helping money laundrying and supporting the drugs and prostitution trade....feels good this Sunday morning eh? If one driver can screw another over for a penny for a load...it'll get done...
These things give me headaches. I've stayed out of TA/Petro since the "Reward Yourself" thread, where I got the idea that since I drive a gasoline-powered van I'm not exactly welcome in the TA/Petro Truck Stop. Now this thread says Pilot/Flying J is ripping off customers on rebates (I never did like rebates, they're inherently dishonest to begin with) and some say I should boycott them just on the general principle of the thing. That leaves Loves as the last major player, and somewhere I thought I heard indications that they don't like us all that much either.
I'm beginning to think that truck stops just aren't all that much good. Certainly not the big fellows, who seem to look down their snooty noses at us peons. So, what's left? Maybe smaller gas stations, and the truck stops when I have to and have little other choice?
I'm beginning to think that truck stops just aren't all that much good. Certainly not the big fellows, who seem to look down their snooty noses at us peons. So, what's left? Maybe smaller gas stations, and the truck stops when I have to and have little other choice?
Mjm: the customers who got ripped off were the carriers & fleet owners who a few of the top mgmt suits considered either unsophisticated or unattentive, not any individual O/Os.
As Xiggi pointed out, boycotting might just result in some of the low paid clerks getting laid off, or reduced hours, and that sure wouldn't make us feel better, would it?
I think it's enough to just speak up. Make your disapproval known, and your appreciation for the brave people who 'out' the scum, rather than go along for the easy money.
I sure hope those who are being reimbursed for what was kept from them remember to show thanks to those who spoke up, though I don't hear much on that front.
As Xiggi pointed out, boycotting might just result in some of the low paid clerks getting laid off, or reduced hours, and that sure wouldn't make us feel better, would it?
I think it's enough to just speak up. Make your disapproval known, and your appreciation for the brave people who 'out' the scum, rather than go along for the easy money.
I sure hope those who are being reimbursed for what was kept from them remember to show thanks to those who spoke up, though I don't hear much on that front.
Don't know if this update has already been posted, I'll post it anyway just in case it hasn't been posted. So here's is an updated post.
Pilot Flying J President Reportedly Out - TopNews - Fuel Smarts - TopNews - TruckingInfo.com
Pilot Flying J President Reportedly Out - TopNews - Fuel Smarts - TopNews - TruckingInfo.com
Update:
Court documents: Trucking firms accuse Jimmy Haslam of directing fraud at truck stop chain
Court documents: Trucking firms accuse Jimmy Haslam of directing fraud at truck stop chain | Fox Business
Court documents: Trucking firms accuse Jimmy Haslam of directing fraud at truck stop chain
Court documents: Trucking firms accuse Jimmy Haslam of directing fraud at truck stop chain | Fox Business
I am quite happy with Pilot/FJ....made some pocket/hot dog money with their kissing and making up this summer...a whack of $1.00 surveys and double points all summer now 10 day showers......it was great!
I will have to give up my Broadway shows now, you really make it interesting....lol