Okla Tells barry to "Stick It"..Won't take Fed funds for barrycare

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
They won't take the fed funds to start the setup of barrycare... Now if more states would follow the Okla. lead, it would be a done deal, and barrycare would be over..and taken care of on the State Level where it should be...

Oklahoma rejects $54.6 million federal grant

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin says that state and private money will be used to develop a system where Oklahomans could shop for health insurance. No cost estimate is available.

BY MICHAEL MCNUTT [email protected] Oklahoman
Published: April 14, 2011
Oklahoma rejects $54.6 million federal grant | NewsOK.com

Oklahoma will not accept a $54.6 million federal grant for setting up a system where Oklahomans could shop for health insurance, Gov. Mary Fallin said today.

Fallin said the state instead will use state and private money to form the system. She had no estimate of how much it would cost, but House Speaker Kris Steele said today that he believes a system can be developed for an amount less than the federal grant.

The state is facing a $500 million shortfall in the upcoming fiscal year. Steele said legislative budget leaders and the governor's office will have to determine where the state will get the money to pay for developing the exchange.

The Republican governor and Steele, R-Shawnee, had supported using the money from Democratic President Barack Obama's administration to pay for the effort, upsetting many Republicans and conservatives in the state who had gone to the polls months earlier to vote for opting out of the federal health care law.

Senate President Pro Tem Brian Bingman, R-Sapulpa, originally agreed to accepting the federal money, but he came out against the idea two weeks ago.

He said he was worried the grant could lead to federal control of Oklahoma's online insurance informational system, which the federal government calls a health insurance exchange.

Fallin said the rejection of the federal grant should make it clear that Oklahoma is not accepting the federal health care law. The state has filed a lawsuit challenging the federal law's constitutionality, and Fallin voted against it last year while a member of Congress.

Oklahoma hasn't received any of the grant money, she said.

Legislation is being drafted that would form a board to oversee the establishment of Oklahoma's health care exchange. It's hoped the measure can be passed this session, which ends late next month. States must have their plans in place by the end of 2013.

“We believe that we can develop a better solution,” said Fallin, who was flanked by Steele, Bingman and several GOP state senators during today's Capitol news conference.

The federal health care law requires states to submit plans for their own health insurance exchanges if the state doesn't want to use a federal system.

Oklahoma was one of several states awarded a grant to help set up their exchanges. Former Gov. Brad Henry, a Democrat, applied for the grant late last year.

The Republican-controlled House of Representatives by the narrowest of margins approved Steele's health exchange bill in March, but the measure was never taken up in the Senate.

Sen. Bill Brown, R-Broken Arrow, chairman of the Senate Insurance and Retirement Committee, said he reviewed the federal grant and found that accepting it would put Oklahoma at risk of having the federal government eventually run its health care exchange. He told Bingman, and Bingman decided the bill wouldn't be heard in the Senate.
 

greg334

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No it won't, the problem is that the states accept federal funds for a number of things and this can be leveraged into forcing them to take the funds.

OK - nope don't want them, don't need them.

Administration - OK Oklahoma, we will cut your highway funding off until you do.

OK - opps we meant we wanted them but didn't know how to say it.
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
The states give the Feds too much power. If the states would work together to corner the Federal government we could give the states their powers back. What is the Federal government going to do if the states revolt against the fed? Send in the military?

We could do a lot of damage to the feds if we work with the states to go against the Federal Government....

The Feds think they are their own organism that funds themselves. They forgot about us......WE are their military and WE are their fund raiser.......
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
OK Feds, You want to cut my highway fund? Go right ahead. We REFUSE to collect federal highway fuel tax and will maintain our OWN roads and you can STICK IT!! (in your ear).

It is time that the States take back control. They need to be telling the feds what to do and how to do it.
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
OK Feds, You want to cut my highway fund? Go right ahead. We REFUSE to collect federal highway fuel tax and will maintain our OWN roads and you can STICK IT!! (in your ear).

It is time that the States take back control. They need to be telling the feds what to do and how to do it.

Its really that simple.

Yes, There will be some short term pain and foot stomping...But the states will win....
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
States won't win because we elect our senators.

States won't win because the feds can hold back education funds, environmental funds and commerce funds not to mention the funding for all the police, cities and counties under the guise of homeland security (why does the words have a soviet style tone to it Homeland Security?)

Just like the seatbelt thing a couple decades ago, we can be faced with the same thing but bigger.

As for the state refusing to collect the fuel tax, the feds can make the IRS do that very very easily.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
States won't win because we elect our senators.

States won't win because the feds can hold back education funds, environmental funds and commerce funds not to mention the funding for all the police, cities and counties under the guise of homeland security (why does the words have a soviet style tone to it Homeland Security?)

Just like the seatbelt thing a couple decades ago, we can be faced with the same thing but bigger.

As for the state refusing to collect the fuel tax, the feds can make the IRS do that very very easily.

The heck with the senators. The state governors have to stand up. Tell the feds to buzz off. If enough states do it the feds will have to listen.The IRS needs reined in too.
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
Amazing a lot of our issues today started with that D-bag Woodrow Wilson. We stopped allowing states to elect senators in his administration as well as we started the Federal Reserve during his administration....

If you look at most of our issues in America today. You can usually tie the origin to that issue to a left leaning socialist democrat......
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
The heck with the senators. The state governors have to stand up. Tell the feds to buzz off. If enough states do it the feds will have to listen.The IRS needs reined in too.

Learn how the system worked before we elected our senators directly then you can see what power they have. The system was setup to allow the state to be represented in the congress by the senators, state business wasn't what is considered a quick solution thing or directly tied to the people.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Learn how the system worked before we elected our senators directly then you can see what power they have. The system was setup to allow the state to be represented in the congress by the senators, state business wasn't what is considered a quick solution thing or directly tied to the people.

I understand the power they have now. I am saying to strip them of it. The governors need to just tell the feds to "stick it". NO more unfunded mandates. NO more extended unemployment. NO MORE NUTHIN!
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
The power who has?

The feds?

The Senators?

The States?

See Layout, the problem is the states don't want to make waves and there is not one governor or state senate has the balls to take on the feds through the tenth amendment.

The best thing that can happen is a serious attempt to invoke a constitutional convention by the states to straighten up the mess, which I bet you my truck the feds will bring it to court to try to stop it and IF the SC rules against the States, then the country has a bigger problem. BUT I would also expect most of the people are too stupid to understand what it is all about and wouldn't care.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
The power who has?

The feds?

The Senators?

The States?

See Layout, the problem is the states don't want to make waves and there is not one governor or state senate has the balls to take on the feds through the tenth amendment.

The best thing that can happen is a serious attempt to invoke a constitutional convention by the states to straighten up the mess, which I bet you my truck the feds will bring it to court to try to stop it and IF the SC rules against the States, then the country has a bigger problem. BUT I would also expect most of the people are too stupid to understand what it is all about and wouldn't care.

I understand the problem. The States are afraid to make waves and today's people are wimps. Afraid to demand the freedoms that is rightfully theirs. As long as they have NASCAR, football, (insert what ever from of entertainment you like here), and are being cared for they are MORE than willing to give up their control of government AND their freedoms.

As I have said all along, the problems we face are 100% the fault of the people. We, as a nation, have allowed this to happen.
 
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